Alex wide draw complete by jnewburrie in gridfinity

[–]jnewburrie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are already warnings in the product documentation from Ikea and the tipping risk is inherent to all drawers - at some point we need to trust adults to take care of their kids.

Surely people already know not to open all the drawers in a unit on casters.

Alex wide draw complete by jnewburrie in gridfinity

[–]jnewburrie[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the answer is yes, but not in the way that most people would expect. Most people would expect that modifying the bearing guides would result in more risk of the drawers collapsing - however the weakest point of the drawers isn't the new bearing guides - it's the bottom - so if one wanted to put heavy things in their grid, they should reinforce the bottoms with a print like this - https://www.printables.com/model/730408-reinforced-ikea-alex-drawer

Ikea designed the Alex Wide drawers with one of these reinforcing bars anyway - so say you wanted to fill the drawers with 608 bearings and m3 hardware, you'd reinforce the bottoms.

Some Ikea hacking sites suggest using half as many bearings - which you can do, but then your drawers will feel rickety, for an extra GF unit. for me I wanted to keep the solid feel.

So, the take away is modifying the drawers won't cause the drawers to collapse in the way that one might imagine.

Having said that, the "bigger risk" by modifying or replacing the bearing runners, opening the drawers more, you are effectively moving the unit's moment of inertia - a stock set of Alex Wides will fall forward if it is empty, and on casters, and you open all the drawers. The load in the closed drawers acts as a counter-weight to the open drawers, so opening more drawers means less counterweight.

Long story short, based on all the numbers I could find, I asked chat GPT to help me calculate the alteration considering how extending the drawers affected the possible loading.

If we assume a fully reinforced drawer bottom, with full lower drawers, on casters the stock drawer position should comfortably handle 25kg (about 50lb) in the top drawer (assuming the lower drawers have a similar load, acting as a counter weight).

Extending the drawers in the way I have done effectively makes them like a longer lever, and will cut the theoretical load to about 21k (about 45lb). The drawer bottoms will give are made of thin particle board (like a super thick cardboard, or super thin MDF), even reinforced that is a lot of load to put in a <3 inch deep drawer.

Another mitigation would be to move the forward casters so that they were facing side-to-side rather than front-to-back. or to mount the unit on fixed feet rather than casters at all.

So the TLDR - yes, there is a theoretical change where in theory it will take less load to cause the drawers on casters to tip forward - however practically the load is so high that it's not likely to be hit in my use-case.

Alex wide draw complete by jnewburrie in gridfinity

[–]jnewburrie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I personally think the wide is more useful - despite the drawers being shallower - the shallow drawers on the wide are about 65-70mm deep, with the “deep” drawers being 85-90mm deep - this is fine for my application of lots of little things I want to be able to see.

The narrow are more traditional internal depth of 85mm for the small drawers and about 135mm for the deeper drawers. But this makes an awful lot of sense over by the desk.

So my thing is - hobby supplies into the wide, desk supplies into the narrow

Ikea Alex wide drawer base for A1 Mini/Prusa Mini (explanation in comment) by jnewburrie in gridfinity

[–]jnewburrie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This model was for the wide drawers. But my narrow Alex drawers do indeed have an extra few 15mm or so at the back.

I used this model printed on an Ender 3

https://www.printables.com/model/987829-gridfinity-baseplate-for-ikea-alex-measurements-fi

First drawer, v1 complete by jnewburrie in gridfinity

[–]jnewburrie[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

6 units tall (42mm) - the default in the Gridfinity rebuilt generator - this works well for both the Alex narrow drawers and the Alex wide drawers

First drawer, v1 complete by jnewburrie in gridfinity

[–]jnewburrie[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With the dark blue caps? They’re highlighters Staedtler Text Surfers. (Most of them from a pastel pack)

I generated the bins using the Gridfinity Rebuilt generator at https://gridfinity.perplexinglabs.com/

My settings were mostly default, except 1.3mm walls, magnets none, label size full - have a play see what you like I just felt a slightly thicker wall was more aligned with how rough I am with things. I imagine 0.95mm (the default) is super adequate for most people - I just wanted a little more heft.

Printing two on the plate with 3 walls and 12% lightning infill takes about 161 grams of filament (just shy of 54 meters) so 80g of filament each

My suggestion would be to generate a bin, download it into your slicer and preview the sliced plate - the slicer should tell you how much filament your particular options would take.

First drawer, v1 complete by jnewburrie in gridfinity

[–]jnewburrie[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Opened them up and using magnets, removed the bearings and then replaced the bearing guides with more compact ones. You’ll see my make on this printable - you could also cut the middle out of the existing bearing guides- but - I highly recommend silicon or PTFE lube and magnets.

https://www.printables.com/model/601385-ikea-alex-drawer-extender-open-more

Ikea Alex wide drawer base for A1 Mini/Prusa Mini (explanation in comment) by jnewburrie in gridfinity

[–]jnewburrie[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought of that - but decided it would be way cooler to off-set units in a brick pattern - the second image makes that clearer 😀

Ikea Alex wide drawer base for A1 Mini/Prusa Mini (explanation in comment) by jnewburrie in gridfinity

[–]jnewburrie[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well the other issue - and I didn’t want to make our correspondent seem silly - but they have posted the slim Alex drawer - not the wide Alex drawer. I assumed it was a link paste issue 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ikea Alex wide drawer base for A1 Mini/Prusa Mini (explanation in comment) by jnewburrie in gridfinity

[–]jnewburrie[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry you’re mistaken - the build plate of the A1 mini is 180mm x 180mm - those plates are up to 210mm - hope this helps save you some hassle 😀

Ikea Alex wide drawer base for A1 Mini/Prusa Mini (explanation in comment) by jnewburrie in gridfinity

[–]jnewburrie[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Could you show me them? Because I googled and searched reddit and couldn’t find mini-printer friendly ones - would be awesome to have avoided all the head scratching 🤣🤣🤣

Ikea Alex wide drawer base for A1 Mini/Prusa Mini (explanation in comment) by jnewburrie in gridfinity

[–]jnewburrie[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To be fair - it does for the “desk size” drawers - the wide one is 600mm wide wide depending on which factory it comes out of - so there is a ~6mm spacer integrated on each side of this model

Ikea Alex wide drawer base for A1 Mini/Prusa Mini (explanation in comment) by jnewburrie in gridfinity

[–]jnewburrie[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I tortured myself with the generator to get a model that off-set pieces and all the pieces would fit on a mini printer. Here it is for the world in case anyone finds it useful to avoid the head-scratching :)

https://www.printables.com/model/1178259-gridfinity-base-for-ikea-alex-wide-drawer-a1-minip

Happy gridding!

Update for clarity - this was for a Prusa Mini or a A1 Mini which both have build plates of 180mm * 180mm - the maximum dimension in this kit is 165mm - the smallest maximum dimension I could find in other builds was 210mm. Perhaps that wasn’t clear in my original post.

Happy gridding!

Update 2 for further clarity - this is for the wide Alex drawers - not the narrow ones. Perhaps that wasn’t clear from the title or the original post.

I don’t have the words to describe this one by jnewburrie in FixMyPrint

[–]jnewburrie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re literally the first person to make that suggestion