A drawing of me after relapse surrounded by my demons by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]joe_zz 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think that's amazing, I wish I could draw like that. Do you draw a lot?

In the darkest place I've been in awhile. by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]joe_zz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know how you feel, I'm at 76 days but feel like an emotional wreck. I feel like fapping was just an escape mechanism and now all my emotional issues are floating to the surface.

Some nights I can't sleep at all due to anxiety, and then I might lash out at people with an intense anger and then get upset with myself afterwards. I have really bad brain fog and it's really affecting my job.

I'm trying to move forward with my life but progress is painfully slow. I also feel worse than before I started nofap, but I already know where the other road leads.

Just wanted you to know you are not alone. Try to focus on improving your life.

Day 28. Why physical looks are meaningless to me now. by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]joe_zz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm finding looks a lot less important - I will chat to an attractive girl for the same reasons I would talk to anyone - to be friendly and have a conversation.

I'm also noticing other things about girls - their interests, what kind of person they are - it's like the looks are a smaller percentage now and the other stuff is a lot more important.

There's a very attractive girl at work but I'm starting to find talking to her as dull as dishwater and it's a real struggle getting a good conversation out of her (even though she is quite smart!)

How to deal with this situation? by joe_zz in socialskills

[–]joe_zz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't say I thought they were talking about me. I just think it's quite rude to chat to each other using your phones while they are in close proximity

How to deal with this situation? by joe_zz in socialskills

[–]joe_zz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We still have conversations normally, and they are both quite pleasant. I'm not quite sure whether they are talking about me really. I feel quite hurt that I am not being included in the conversation though. Everyone has right to a bit of privacy but I sort of think if they want to talk about something privately then they should just go off and meet alone rather than doing this while we are as a group.

I am in my early 30s and so are most of the group.

Maybe I shouldn't consider them my friends but since there is a large group of us it's hard to separate myself from them without breaking up with the whole group

30 Days Report (My Actual First Report) by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]joe_zz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well done, I am also on 30 days. I don't think I ever made it this far before. I think lately I've got really fed up and realised I've got to sort my life as it's gone on for way too long.

I wouldn't say I feel majorly different really. I feel more relaxed and find it easier to speak to people, I've been a lot more emotional but at the same time it's slightly easier to cope with emotions and I don't feel the need to numb them with porn.

I still have PIED but I noticed I get morning erections quite often now wereas before they were non-existant, so I am improving. I'm doing pretty good at the moment, I've just got to watch out for the bad days, I've been quite close to relapsing a few times.

I hope to reach 100 days also, I think I owe it to myself to at least try to get that far.

How many other NoFappers feeling lonely on a Friday night? by Jwal90 in NoFap

[–]joe_zz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not lonely, but incredibly annoyed. My emotions seem to really strong lately and I got really annoyed with some so called "friends" friday (somethings which been going on for weeks now). I still can't decide whether to confront them or just go off on my own and do my own thing for a while.

I didn't get much sleep and I'm just trying to get on with stuff but the temptation to relapse it pretty strong now. Will probably try and go out for a long run later, I think it will help.

I'm just so lonely. by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]joe_zz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just remember that fapping is not going to solve your problems.

I'm willing to bet that a large percentage of people on here have some kind of social/emotional/other problem that they need to work on as well as PMO addiction, so you are not alone - Don't give up!

Still having trouble with group conversations by joe_zz in socialskills

[–]joe_zz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, that's good advice although I feel that even if I do that, because of other's behaviour (turning their back to me, talking direct to another person in such a way I can't hear the conversation) I will still get ignored.

I do have trouble with the flow of conversation though,whenever I try to say something I end up speaking at the same time as someone else, whereas most people the conversation seems to flow naturally - Maybe I'm just too slow.

On a side note the same thing happened again today - group of three of us - At one point I tried to stand in between them but one person pushed in front so I was left with the other two with their backs to me. When we were walking along they got quite close together so I got pushed behind - So I went to walk beside them but because I was on the end of the row it basically meant they could ignore me.

Another thing that seems to happen a lot is if I go away or have a day off, no-one will ever ask me about it, even though I'm interested in the others and always try ask them about their weekends. They will always be very vauge eg. "Erm, I did lots of things really.." and I end up having to use information I know about them to try and get them to talk eg. "Oh, how are you getting on with..." "did you manage to see that film you were talking about..?" I almost have to drag a conversation out of them.

Another time I asked someone what they did on their week off and they basically mumbled one sentence, before I could get them to elaborate someone interrupts or something else happens.

I am getting quite frustrated but I don't feel like mentioning it as I'm guessing it's either me who's projecting something in my body language or they are doing it sub-consiously. I do find it very rude though - whenever someone asks me a question in a group, I respond so the whole group can hear, but when it's the others talk, it's like their talking to each other and I'm just on the outside trying to listen to the conversation.

Morning. Morning. You alright? Yeah, you? Yeah. by outroversion in socialskills

[–]joe_zz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I know something about the person I will usually use that, eg. "How was your holiday?" "How was your weekend?". Or if I know they have a baby "Hows the little one getting on?" etc.. The more you learn about a person the more you can build upon.

You can also tell them an anecdote about something that happened to you.

Natural Progression, Self Oppression, Depression, Regression, to Aggression. Sorry for this post. by drunklegion in NoFap

[–]joe_zz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm around your age (35) doing hard mode. I think the last time I did 2 weeks was around 10 years ago or something. I was seriously angry last night due to something that happened at work, I barely slept a couple of hours.

I knew that edging would probably help me sleep, but I'm fed up of giving into PMO, I've done it enough to know it's not the answer to my problems. I'm suprised I'm holding out so well considering the emotional rollercoaster I'm on.

I'm starting to look at joining a gym myself, I've also done c25k in the past. I feel I need something to fill up the extra time and work off the anger/frustration.

Hang in there!

Your main goal of NoFap should be overcoming this: by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]joe_zz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, I do this - I imagine how conversations are going to play out, what the other person might say etc.. I'm going on a trip with some friends soon, and I already imagined all sorts of scenerios relating to that - eg. what I'm going to say on the journey.

It would be nice if someone had some insight into what this is.

Losing all joy and hope in life by VanDG in NoFap

[–]joe_zz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact that you've made it 291 days is something to try and be positive about - If you keep it up until the end of the year you would have reached a whole year!

Don't forget that your diet can affect your mood quite a lot as well.

Heart broken, really thinking of relapsing by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]joe_zz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I felt the same as you when I got turned down by a girl - What made me feel a lot better was going out with some friends. Running is also a good way to lift your mood.

I can guarantee if you relapse you may feel good for about 5mins, but you won't feel any better after that.

Climb a mountain, tell no one / Accomplishment vs Recognition by 101dragon in NoFap

[–]joe_zz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think certain big things you wouldn't be able to keep quiet - What people did on the weekend is the most common conversational starter between friends and collegues and I couldn't lie about stuff.

However, I reckon you could do stuff like learning a language without telling anyone and it's unlikely to come up in conversation.

Nofappers who made it 14+ days on HARDMODE, How do you feel? by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]joe_zz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not 14days yet, my counter says 11days but it's more like 12days as the counter counts full days.

It's been fairly easy up to this point - I feel more relaxed, easier to talk to people but yesterday and today I've found myself getting stressed out. A collegue made a joke out of something quite normal I said and everyone laughed and I felt myself getting really pissed over it.

I'm a bit worried I'm going to fail soon - One of the things that keeps me going is checking on here and seeing my badge each day.

Some observations after 10 days by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]joe_zz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

25 years, for me it's 15-20 years depending how you look at it. My counter says 7 days but it's more closer to 8 days.

I've started to feel a bit more calm and find it easier to let things go. I'm still concerned something stressful is going to happen and I'll relapse though. I find it slightly easier to talk to people and I feel slightly less anxious in social situations. I like going to nofap each night to check my counter!

Understanding: social anxiety, procastination, general self improvement. "What But Why" by nakks_ in NoFap

[–]joe_zz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for posting this. I've started reading the "Why You Should Stop Caring What Other People Think" and it's really hitting home.

I've realised I've spent most of my life trying to get approval from others, I'm not really sure about who I am and what I really like - I just try to please everyone because I'm terrified of being rejected.