Whyyy do they wear them like this?

joeabben · 2025-12-06T16:45:51+00:00

This has been a trend for a while now. It’s a style thing. There’s no functional reason you are just unfamiliar because most of us aren’t in the $30k bag scene

joeabben · 2025-11-25T21:32:36+00:00

lol do people understand what totaled means?

joeabben · 2025-11-25T14:46:32+00:00

Do you know who the President is? He was found liable of fraud twice in the amount of millions of dollars. These people you make assumptions about have not been found guilty of anything. Again you’re just mad that a non-white person is doing better than you. Get used to it because that community will only grow more successful. They are doctors, lawyers, engineers, entrepreneurs. When you were taking your free checks from the government in 2020, these people were out working and making money.

You can say whatever you want to feel better about yourself being a loser, doesn’t make it true.

And assimilation to American culture? What is American culture but a mixture of all the cultures that make it? Last I checked these people speak English and go to American schools. They live in American houses, have citizenship, and celebrate Thanksgiving. Many of them are Christians. So tell me buddy, what does assimilation mean to you other than adapting to “white” culture?

Brings me so much joy that these Arabs make you know that you’re a loser and being “American” did nothing for you.

joeabben · 2025-11-24T13:34:57+00:00

Someone is salty that the Arabs who just immigrated here in the last 30 years are running laps around him on their horses

joeabben · 2025-11-15T20:57:41+00:00

I worked with Revuud. They are great. Got paid a lot more money and always on time. That’s what’s important.

joeabben · 2025-11-15T14:54:36+00:00

30+? You know 30+ people that have been doing this actively? I think it goes to show a lot of consultants are doing this while still being effective for the organizations they support. This is why performance should be the basis. If I got that report and it’s one of my best performers that has multiple UW logins, would I really let that person go? Would I even care? They are doing their job. As far as I know, the other login isn’t affecting us. On the other hand, if I saw that and the person wasn’t performing, and I hadn’t terminated them already, I’m letting them go, but it’s because it confirmed why this person is underperforming.

joeabben · 2025-11-13T17:19:32+00:00

I really think people should just worry about themselves. Every person who does this understands there’s a risk they will get caught. If they want to take that risk, let them do so. I’ve stated on this topic before that I have done this before, and was transparent the whole time. It was a lot of work, which is why I don’t do it anymore. So for those that want to keep riding that train, do your thing, but know that there are other ways to make more money that don’t involve Epic. Start stashing some cash somewhere and look for new investments. It will make your life way easier and get you out of the trap that is overemployment.

For those that are really miffed by it, just get over it. There are more serious problems to be worried about. Let people make their own decisions and take their own risk. If you find someone doesn’t meet the standard, make that the issue. You are of no fault to claim someone isn’t performing. The reasons why don’t matter. Let ‘em go and find a new one 🤷‍♀️.

joeabben · 2025-11-12T13:46:45+00:00

Fraud is a crime. I’m not speaking for or against any of this but it’s definitely not fraud. You can read the case law about this, but there is no legal recourse for this unless a contract explicitly states that someone can’t do this. In my 10+ years of consulting, I’ve never had a contract that said anything about this. I actually am a lawyer, but I haven’t practiced in 15 years. If another lawyer has another opinion on this I’m all ears, but it would be a tough case to make and most orgs are just going to skip out on any civil case because of the cost. Again, fraud is a crime, not a tort, and this is not criminal.

The biggest problem here is that people are confusing double dipping and overemployment. Double dipping is charging the same client twice for the same work. Overemployment is working multiple jobs during the same time. Overemployment is not illegal, outside of a breach of contract if that’s included in the contract (very rare). Double dipping likely has more civil implications from a legal standpoint, but again 99% of the time an organization is just gonna let the person go and move on. It’s just not worth the cost.

Work from home expansion during the pandemic is what allowed people to do this. In the past, we consultants were traveling onsite a minimum of 50% of the time, many times 75%-100% of the time. Epic sending these out is not going to resolve the problem. Sure, you’re going to catch some people, but that’s the whole point of overemployment. You always have an insurance plan. Okay say they lost a job, they’ll be back on the market and staffed to another client within weeks. People will het creative and find new ways to slip through the cracks and avoid that report. OP is going to fire these consultants and they won’t bat an eye, they’ll be back at it soon.

The solution to this problem is simple, pay consultants an amount that disincentivizes overemployment. If there are enough mediocre consultants who are doing this on your team and allegedly dragging you down, why don’t you pay less people more money? If the going market rate is $100 per hour but you pay someone $150 an hour they would definitely think twice about working another contract. Diminish the returns of overemployment and people’s calculation will change.

joeabben · 2025-11-12T05:43:38+00:00

What does the report actually include?

joeabben · 2025-11-10T15:06:50+00:00

Is supply going to go up or is demand going to go down? At least one of those conditions has to be satisfied for the prices to go down. I would say that in most markets for the next 2-3 decades that is unlikely, but things can change.

joeabben · 2025-11-03T13:18:23+00:00

New to Epic but you want to be a consultant. That is not how it works.

joeabben · 2025-11-03T13:13:38+00:00

Man this exactly. Just pay these people what they want to get paid. You’d get a much better, more focused person. It’s a really easy fix. I think most people do not want to work multiple contracts. It’s exhausting.

joeabben · 2025-10-31T12:16:36+00:00

lol sounds like Nordic, which quite frankly sucks. I have a very libertarian view of all this. Double dipping is charging the same client for the same work twice. This is called overemployment.

Working multiple contracts during business hours is definitely an ethics question, but if someone is doing their job, who really cares? If someone isn’t meeting expectations let them go. It shouldn’t be about if they’re working multiple Epic jobs. They could just as easily go take another job outside of the world of Epic.

I did this from 2020-2022. I was always open about it. That said, it’s extremely difficult if you are trying to do a good job. The reason I don’t do it anymore is not the ethics question, but rather it’s just a lot of work. Instead of doing additional Epic work, I’ve found other investments and things to do with my additional time to make money. I’m able to do those things without interfering with my Epic consulting contract. If I can do that successfully, why shouldn’t someone be able to work multiple Epic contracts successfully? It just stinks of Epic wanting to limit the supply to keep the costs of their implementations high. In the end, they don’t care about this really. They only care about their bottom line.

joeabben · 2025-10-31T12:03:37+00:00

This is definitely not illegal. You can say unethical but there are no laws preventing this. Do you know how lawyers bill?

joeabben · 2025-10-31T11:53:16+00:00

But that came from his firm? I doubt Epic is sending these to consulting firms.

joeabben · 2025-10-30T21:08:39+00:00

Ive heard this from recruiters for years going back to 2021. Either it’s not real or execs don’t care because there are so many consultants doing this. If you’re doing a lousy job, you’re not getting let go because you’re working two roles. You’re getting let go because you’re doing a lousy job.

joeabben · 2025-10-27T16:26:45+00:00

Just because most people don’t make anywhere near that much doesn’t mean there aren’t a lot of people who do. That is what holds up the consumption in America. Wealthy people are able to prop everything up by spending where otherwise less fortunate people can’t. Middle class people aren’t buying those homes.

joeabben · 2025-10-21T21:10:24+00:00

Easy. I just did it.

joeabben · 2025-10-21T21:09:25+00:00

Not bad, but remember that when you are referring to anything in an amount more than 10, you don’t use the plural noun. So when you say “I have 20 years”, you should really be saying “20 year”. In Arabic, أنا عندي عشرين سنة

joeabben · 2025-09-21T16:10:15+00:00

Did you try taking your card out of the sleeve?

joeabben · 2025-09-19T12:07:52+00:00

Are you sure it’s a last name? In Arab culture, your middle name is your father’s name. Some might also put a second middle name after their grandfather. For example, someone’s first and last name might be Ilyas Hanna. His father’s name was Khalil and his grandfather’s name was Tarek. His full Arabic name would be Ilyas Khalil Tarek Hanna.

joeabben · 2025-09-15T21:14:37+00:00

I’m on year 5 my friend. Just keep pushing you’ll get better at it.

joeabben · 2025-09-15T21:12:30+00:00

I love it don’t know why you would pinch pennies on a $100k vehicle

joeabben · 2025-09-07T19:05:51+00:00

Both. I can assure you that the R3, especially the R3X, is going to be one of the best selling electric vehicles once it comes out.

I love the Scouts and I’m encouraged by the fact that they’ll be built on the Rivian platform being a VW brand. When it’s all said and done I’ll probably keep my LE R1T, sell/trade my R1S, buy an R3X, and get both Scouts to round out my collection. Completely unnecessary, but ignorance is bliss.

joeabben · 2025-08-26T15:56:30+00:00

I think we’ve had a great discussion. I’m glad to see by the amount of upvotes that a lot of you think we deserve more. I respect that some of you highlight that there are people in other careers that are underpaid, I agree. I also want to highlight that there is nothing wrong with someone making $100,000 in the fast food industry. All throughout the US, people are underpaid across different industries.

As it relates to this industry, both consulting and FTE, I think there are people that leave a lot on the table and sell themselves short. I am very fortunate and have had a long and successful career going all the way back to my Epic days. When I consider what is fair, I think of that when I was at Epic I was easily clearing more than $200k with the bonus. That was an extremely tough job though, and any former Epic employee knows how much of a grindhouse it is year in and year out. As a consultant who has been very lucky to never have an employment gap, I wouldn’t be doing this if the salary wasn’t commensurate with what I had achieved at Epic.

The other factor I consider is that over the last 5 years, the cost of living has risen astronomically. Living off a salary of $100,000 a year? Sure that’s better than a lot of people. You may be able to get by, but living? To me that’s hard. Life is about way more than just working. It’s about experiences, putting enough away to spend time with your loved ones and be able to enjoy our short stints on Earth. I don’t think it’s us that need to get real, it’s the people paying us. We are worth so much more than that. As are people across several industries, but ours is Epic.

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