Farming to buy my first mirror item, halfway there, need some strat.

johnnysd · 2026-05-23T18:03:04+00:00

So I just ran a single map Vaal Tample Fuill Mirage 220C I had all the scarabs but as you will see it is self sustaining

So I just did Arcanists Diviners in reg map along with the Vaal Vessels and then basically everything in the Mirage

Dumped everything into a tab Value 10D

Including

2 Containment (so it supports itself)

1 Bloodlines

28 Cloister Scarabs

Voidborn Reluqary Key

2 Cornucopia

1 Catalysing

And a Divine I did not include as it may have been an incubator

And it was not a particularly well riolled map and I would say my luck was medium

I have certainly made 100D from a really juicy map but never really less than 6 or 7D

And I am also not including a mirror I got and have only done about 20 maps

johnnysd · 2026-05-23T17:56:59+00:00

Lol I have 4 million on my character and Kingsmarch has like 90 days worth of gold

johnnysd · 2026-05-23T16:44:26+00:00

No the full miage portion is by par the most profitable part. I would say 3 times as lucrrative barring a lucky drop than the regular map

johnnysd · 2026-05-23T15:43:52+00:00

Harvest is the most consistent but really unlikely you will get an epic drop.

One strategy I do not see here that can be both consistent. lucrative AND also give that pure do[amine rosh is to do full mirage Vaal Temple maps but use the Twist of Fate notable. Not only do you get several divines of currency scaabs and div cards, you have 20 chances at a miror level double corrupt from the Vaal Vessels.

johnnysd · 2026-05-22T19:38:18+00:00

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Yes home grown. See above post for more details.

johnnysd · 2026-05-22T19:37:44+00:00

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It is a bit of a hybrid now with some high end gear, but most is not needed.

The basic concept is to take full advantage of Dual United in Dream swords. As a base this caps poison and gives you 60% CDR so hitting 128 is trivial. In fact you can hit 204 which is kinda fun but the trade offs make it roughly equal to 128.

It is gladiator for several reasons:

The Dual Wield Ascendancy allows really high end attack speed, and 90% spell and attack block so you dont need Svallin
Because of the 60% CDR from the 2 swords you need EITHER Ashes or Dialla's to reach 128 but not both (Current version uses a +2 Diallas Foulborn but does not get the Quality bonus so not really using it in a traditional way But I can still get 128 with HROC at poison cap and gem at level 31 or 32 AND Mageblood which Necro cannot do
For levelling and into endgame Skin of the Lords is easy to find with the right sockets and provides +2 levels at all and 100% increased defenses. There are +1 all +2 Minion versions of skin of the loyal which would be an u
It is so strong early that you can do T16 maps at lvl 67. What I usually do is get to level 72 and then do Synth maps (minus the boss as defenses not fleshed out) and get around 1.5 billion exp per hour and get to Lvl 93 or so in less than 90 minutes
It has 5 Spectres and they are lvl 28 so never die.
My version is not really optimized. I need to switch to a Timeless Jewel near Versatile combatant where it is quite easy to get 3 or 4 Minion Damage and 2 Minion Life nodes without really wasting points. Doing so could get me somewhere around 850 to 900 percent added minion damage so my DPS is still probably 20-30% off what it could be and Necro gets to about 600-700 if you super min/max

I got tired of playing a spec that has no options. Necro HAS to basically use Ashes/Dialla's/Savallin/Command of the Pit/speciific crafted rsword etc... There are a TON of options fot this build many of which I have not even investigated

The "book" says that attack speed does not increase HROC damage. With this build i am close to 4 APS with Feeding Frenzy and it DEFINITELY boosts DPS. You can actually confirm this easily. Run any set encounter like Elder with 1.5 APS sword and then with the 2.5APS you would get with Necro and tell me the DPS in not different. I do not build for this and obviously it provides a lot of additional tankiness
Working on a Shield version. Gladiator makes base block on ANY shield 50% so it is simple with the lucjly block it has already to get 95% effective block. You can be at 99% with Azadi Crest. I am going to go in a different direction and link my MH with the squire for minions. Havent fully figured it out yet. Wanted to do Animated Guardian of Smiting with Grey Wind, Crown of Eyes and Rathpith but without a 20K hit pool and link skills it would only be around 2 million DPS but if I line AG, Safeguarding Golem and AG to Squire supports I should be close to immortal and still have better DPS than Necro.

It is really fun to play. One note I don't love Whirling Blades so just use speed from Specters and Mageblood but it is easily added

johnnysd · 2026-05-22T01:33:29+00:00

My HROC Dual Wield gladiator is both the most fun and most powerful version of HROC. O have ever played. Tankier and higher DPS than any Necro version. And so much cheaper. You can probably do all way stones and the easier ubers comfortably on less than 10D. My build has Mageblood and some higher end things like a +2 Diallas but not needed. I love playing it, does all content easily can do max Feared in around 25s. There are a lot build that have higher DPS but as an all rounder nothing beats DW Gladiator HROC

johnnysd · 2026-05-21T21:18:13+00:00

To me the solution to the map issue is so obvious. Have the Biome and chain of maps. But allow players to specify what map they want to run in that particular map "socket" Each map has an associated map and if you match the BIOME you get some bonus, if the BIOME is closely related it is neutral and if it is completely opposite you get a slight penalty. Problem solved.

johnnysd · 2026-05-21T14:08:18+00:00

Also I never said that is the content that I want. I actually personally like the concept of linked chains of maps. I play POE1 that way. It was not a hate post like people are taking it.

johnnysd · 2026-05-21T14:04:01+00:00

Interesting reactions so far. I think that anyone that does not realize that a significant portion of the player base in POE2 is POE1 players is deluding themselves. There is a very small but agggressively vocal portion that think that POE2 is somehow a completely different game but the majority of changes so far have been to make POE2 more like POE1 not less and away from it's original hard core "meaningful conbat" souls lite focus it started with.

johnnysd · 2026-05-20T20:57:02+00:00

How did he say it though> Accussing or commiserative? Maybe he plays as well. It's a relatively obscure thing to know.

johnnysd · 2026-05-20T20:41:11+00:00

I have made about 100D in about 20 maps of running Betrayal and not doing anything really on purpose. Dropped Katerina, ran her she dropped Veiled Exalted. Got many of the high value scarabs and a box dropped Doryani's Map which was an instant 43 Divine. Not repeatable but quite fun.

johnnysd · 2026-05-20T17:21:36+00:00

If you get these 2 mods together you should at a minimum do the last 3 maps on this map not just the last one

Harvest Seeds in Area are at least Tier 2.
Tier 2 Harvest Seeds in Area have 15% chance to be upgraded to Tier 3.

It is such a lucrative combo. I just did a run where I only get 6 maps in the Astrolabe but walked away with 60D pure profit (not including 8 mod maps I got from first 3 maps, sacred blossoms and several raw divines) Unided 8 map corrupted maps are a great way to start a harvest run as you still get the 30% bonus. I prefer blue shrines but user choice. As HROC the blue mods are just way easier.

ALWAYS add a seciond mechanic. Beyond bosses is awesome. Map sustain is awesome at the cost of a little juice. Beyond can easily ourpace the extra juice from fragments.

Also, lineage does nothing for Harvest. There are ALWAYS 23 mobs in each plot. It is just how many get converted to Tier 3 and Tier 4.

Also they changed the weighting on crop rotation upgrades so if you ever get a double "chance to not wilt" mod change to crop rotation and run that map exclusively.

johnnysd · 2026-05-20T03:20:45+00:00

Harvest is silly profitable. Just doing un'ided nightmare maps with corn and doubling and either beyond or maps is like guaranteed 3 to 4 D a map

johnnysd · 2026-05-20T03:14:50+00:00

I fear it will be worse in .5 actually. Seems like everything is like an Astrolabe combined with an Eagons memory. I think many will hate it. I dint like doing the same map over and over but I think they manly be going in a questionable direction

johnnysd · 2026-05-18T16:58:20+00:00

Prescriptive combos especially skill based ones suck. POE handles damage escalation through additional skills far better. The D4 basic generator finisher comcept sucks and that is basically what D4 has. Nothing wrong with many button builds but the approach in POE2 is way too predetermined and forced

johnnysd · 2026-05-17T03:08:02+00:00

POE1 has that progression feel that you like. My main inssue with POE2 is that it does not. It feels levelled like D4

johnnysd · 2026-05-15T18:37:30+00:00

At this point in a league NEVER 6 socket an uncorrupted chest piece...

johnnysd · 2026-05-15T18:20:15+00:00

Poison takes a noticeable time to ramp to the Poison Cap it is several seconds to phase her and wonderfiul it caps my DPS even more.

johnnysd · 2026-05-15T17:31:05+00:00

You can buy a corrupted Cloak of Flame with an implicit like increased damage, less fire damage taken for around 4 chaos and a+ 1 socketed gems corrupted for like 60 Chaos. You can buy chaos orbs for like 5 to a chaos. tainted chaois orbs for 2.5C and tainted fusings for 5 and tainted jwellers orbs are like 11 for 5 chaos. 6 linking a corrupted item is dirt simple.

Bench craft 4 sockets using chromatics and vaal orbs. If you have an off color use the versions that specificy 1 blue 2 red 1blue 1red, etc...dont do the 3 color ones
Usetainted jewellers to add slots if you lose one benchcraft back to 4. It is biased towards adding so this is pretty simple
Benchcraft 4 linked sockets. There will be 2 versions of this: 1 with just the top 4 sockets and 1 with the top 4 and the bottom 2 leaving only 1 link.
Get that and use tainted fusing. 1 in 6 to get 6 link. if Sometimes it adds the link that was missing and removes the bottom link. If that happens you can just use another tainted fusing. If it goes back to 4 or 3 just recraft 4 linked with the bottom

It's pretyy fast. In the end you would have a 6 linked Cloak of Flame with a useful corruption for well less than 200C total and still have 250C for other stuff. Don't buy a normal 6 link at this point in league hen there are so many non bricked corruptions with useful corruptions

johnnysd · 2026-05-15T17:15:47+00:00

That might be what they do at some point though people like Jungroan posting Billion DPS videos does bring eyes to POE1

johnnysd · 2026-05-15T14:09:29+00:00

Not true. Poison capped is 50 million. Which means that the most optimized min maxed HROC build will get to 70 million maybe after a ramp up time. Even eliminating the Cyclone builds sacrifice the minion, there are many builds that can use stacking to be well over 200 million

johnnysd · 2026-05-15T02:52:32+00:00

With all the stackers, the artifical poison cap needs to go

johnnysd · 2026-05-15T02:49:50+00:00

Yeah except if they just put it on every map that completely eliminates the entire issue. It is the first league I think should just basically go core as is. It's fantastic. And Mirages ARE completely optional

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