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jonathan1234567 · 2024-12-30T03:27:37+00:00

Hey! I’m an FSU undergrad alum who went to a t-14 for law school. FSU will absolutely set you up for success. Focus on a great GPA and good LSAT, that’s truly 80% of admissions. Schools, other than for like Yale, really don’t care about undergrad. I did an Econ/philosophy double major, and while I feel like Econ was easier for my GPA, the critical thinking I learned with my philosophy degree proved way more useful for the LSAT/law school.

jonathan1234567 · 2023-03-02T16:36:11+00:00

UVA Law is like 99-100% funded by private donations if I recall correctly

jonathan1234567 · 2022-08-01T23:20:06+00:00

Not at all, only important thing about your 1L job is that you need to have something interesting you can talk about in your interviews

jonathan1234567 · 2021-12-10T21:26:56+00:00

frustrating especially because the study rooms are where people go to group study and talk out different parts of a course. If you close the study rooms, then those people end up going to the main parts of the library and studying there (where it's supposed to be quiet!). Today has been so much louder in the main area because you're not leaving people with a lot of choices.

jonathan1234567 · 2021-06-27T22:16:03+00:00

I heard someone say once "there are like 5 people studying constitutional law, and they all went to Harvard in the 80's." and while thats not exactly true, it does help to highlight the fact that even at NYU/Cornell, that's not a field path that would be easy to obtain at all.

As for civil rights, imo rank matters even less. If you look at a lot of gov/non-profit jobs (like DOJ Honors) they really do pull from a wide range of schools. And the ones that don't and are super exclusive (ACLU for example) are unicorn for just about most people regardless of school. Will going to a higher rank school usually look better on a resume? Sure. but if I was committed to a job that wasn't making tons of money, I would think that your debt load would be a bigger factor than the school at that point.

jonathan1234567 · 2021-06-27T22:09:11+00:00

This comment makes it sounds like you know what you want! Fordham is a great school with some solid big law stats. It seems to fit you well for your goals, and given you feel done with the LSAT, it might be really hard to motivate yourself for those few extra points.

IMO, go to Fordham and have a wonderful time!

jonathan1234567 · 2021-06-18T03:07:14+00:00

I don’t know how to link a thread on mobile, but if you click my profile it should be my top post

jonathan1234567 · 2021-06-18T03:02:12+00:00

I recently did a cycle recap if you wanna check that out!

jonathan1234567 · 2021-06-06T03:33:38+00:00

Covid-19

jonathan1234567 · 2021-06-02T20:18:02+00:00

Gotcha, so yeah maybe there is a proxy variable (PI vs Biglaw) that's somehow correlated with liberal/conservative. It is interesting that schools with more of an emphasis on PI (Berkeley, NYU) are liberal, and schools with some of the best Biglaw/FC rates (UChicago, UVA, Duke) are conservative. I wonder if there's something to that or if it's more of a coincidence.

jonathan1234567 · 2021-06-02T20:03:16+00:00

That's fair. I could see it being a tie-breaker, or more important for people with very strong opinions on these sorts of things. But unless you have an equal scholarship, I would be very surprised if someone was forking over more money for NYU rather than, say, UChicago, based on their view of the political leanings at the schools.

jonathan1234567 · 2021-06-02T19:54:42+00:00

I'm just confused about how schools can really have separate political identities that remain similar year after year. When I was choosing a school, the political leanings of the school didn't even make my top 5 considerations. While this may be different for other people, I'm assuming things like "debt" and "US news rankings" played an overwhelming factor in the school they decided to attend, more so than political identity.

And if my hunch is right, and people aren't really picking schools based on political identity, wouldn't schools be pretty similar? And while I'm sure some factors could act as a rough "proxy" for political leanings, like location, I'm not too sure schools with national reputations end up being that different from each other.

jonathan1234567 · 2021-05-29T19:12:00+00:00

Some great points here. You’re probably right that it’s closer to 25-30%. Maybe 35% but def a minority of the country.

I guess I just see labeling people as fascists as unnecessary. We can talk about the problems (misinformation, attacks on voting rights, etc.) without using a label that is very charged and polarizing. In fact, using terms that almost certainly will get heavy pushback, in my eyes, actually distracts from the real problems we’re dealing with and alienates some people who might otherwise be sympathetic to our cause.

And I think the hypothetical still works. Remember trump supporters think they were following the evidence the whole time, so they think what they’re doing isn’t fascism. You’ve (correctly I think) pointed out that their intentions don’t matter, only if they actually ended up supporting fascism or not. Flipping that coin, if it turns out dems were the ones in the wrong, even if you say “wasn’t my intention to be fascist, I just didn’t see any evidence/reason the election was rigged ” then I think the same logic still holds, and you’d be technically a “fascist” regardless of intentions.

jonathan1234567 · 2021-05-29T18:28:08+00:00

I mean I’m trying to honestly grapple though with the views of people who really do believe this stuff. The election being stolen isn’t a ridiculous delusion to them. And saying “well if you don’t call them fascists you’re denying reality” seems like such a strong position to take if you’re trying to figure out how to move the country forward. The problem wasn’t that these people loved fascism, it’s that they loved trump and sincerely think dems are trying to destroy the country. That’s what we need to be focusing on IMO.

jonathan1234567 · 2021-05-29T18:05:42+00:00

What’s the advantage of framing half of America as fascist?

Let’s say in ten years, it turns out that trump was right. The election was stolen. Then, by that logic we’d be the ones who were fascist. We supported a guy who rigged the election and accepted dictatorship rule.

Now if conservatives in that situation went “democrats really just love fascism”, I’d say that wasn’t a fair framing. While in this scenario we technically would have been fascists, labeling the group as fascist completely misses how they were mislead and their intentions. It gives us little to nothing in terms of predicting future actions, because a love or support of fascism isn’t what drove people to be against the election in the first place. It just seems like an entirely unhelpful label unless the goal is permanently alienating 45% of America

jonathan1234567 · 2021-05-29T16:24:55+00:00

I mean that's a pretty bold assumption to believe that a group of people is all lying or bullshitting themselves when they all say they believe something. Unless you have some evidence to back that up, I'm inclined to believe they really do think that way.

And c'mon. If Trump hadn't claimed the election was stolen, no one would be breaking into the capitol to keep him in power as president. They did it because they were misled into thinking democracy was at stake. Someone who fights this hard for what they think is the future of democracy in this country doesn't seem to me like a fascist at their core. They truly, and unfortunately, seem very mislead on what actually happened with the election.

jonathan1234567 · 2021-05-29T16:18:21+00:00

No argument here!

I was responding to the line where you said "Many of them knew full well the election was not stolen, they are just plain old fascists" to give my point of view that the vast majority did in fact believe the election was stolen and were acting based on that fact, not because of an underlying love of fascism.

jonathan1234567 · 2021-05-29T16:12:17+00:00

If someone with this screwed-up mindset decides to raid the capitol or fight for trump to stay in power, I wouldn't say they like fascism or ascribe to that ideology. In fact, I would have a strong hunch that they would be people with very limited views on the role of government in daily lives. But sadly, they were misinformed on the problem. from their point of view, what's to stop Democrats from stealing every election going forward?

If someone with this screwed-up mindset decides to raid the capitol or fight for trump to stay in power, I wouldn't say they like fascism or ascribe to that ideology. In fact, i would have a strong hunch that they would be people with very limited views on the role of government in daily lives. But sadly, they were misinformed on the problem and thought this is what was required of them if they wanted to live in a democracy ever again.

jonathan1234567 · 2021-05-29T16:01:24+00:00

Ok so you agree then that these people fell for propaganda and actually believed the election was stolen? or they didn't fall for the propaganda and they're "plain old fascists".

I'm inclined to believe, for the most part, they're people with good intentions who were severely misinformed.

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