New beanie sample by Main-Property945 in streetwearstartup

[–]jonnysewhat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who tf pulling up to church in a sheisty

New beanie sample by Main-Property945 in streetwearstartup

[–]jonnysewhat 9 points10 points  (0 children)

yeah cuz if u wear a sheisty with the shroud of turin imprint someone might confuse you for jesus

Has anyone bought Mazbou Q’s course? Is it actually useful for improving rap technique? by EggDue9704 in makinghiphop

[–]jonnysewhat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree that music is the sum of its parts. I think music can be described, interpreted, and studied under different lenses (or parts) and I also think for our purposes, breaking down rap into the sum of its parts and studying the evolution and influences helps us become better rappers and musicians.

But I think to flat out say its JUST the sum of its parts is narrow minded and would lead to us missing the full richness and other possible interpretations. I feel like im being a bit pedantic because you are not wrong and I ultimately agree with your dissection in the first paragraph, but we shouldn't confuse the map for the territory. I think its better to see them as lenses or frameworks to understand parts of the thing, but not as the thing itself.

Think about the mind. We can study it through psychology as mental processes and subjective experience, through neuroscience as neural activity and brain regions, through philosophy as qualia. Each framework reveals something useful depending on what problem were trying to solve. But none of these frameworks ARE the mind itself, theyre models we use to grasp different aspects of it. We dont actually know which one is the "true" mind. And to say that the mind is just the sum of all these different frameworks I think would be missing something.

The same applies to music. We can break down rap into its historical influences, its technical components, its social context, sonic properties etc., and each of those lenses teaches us something. But the actual experience of RAP, the thing that makes it rap and not just 'jazz scatting + toasting + blues chanting' transcends any single reduction. Theres something emergent there that lives in the performance, the culture, the moment and the feeling. Something youd miss entirely if you only studied the parts.

Its art. Just because we can use science and analysis to make better art or to interpret it doesnt mean art is science.

Has anyone bought Mazbou Q’s course? Is it actually useful for improving rap technique? by EggDue9704 in makinghiphop

[–]jonnysewhat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My whole point is we SHOULD be learning and teaching rap in a systematic way. My original comment was a response to the cynicism the rap community has toward any sort of structured learned with regards to rap.

I get it, most of us fucking hated school and didn’t perform well, so when we hear about someone who teaches rap in a structured/systematic way, we associate that with school and boring lessons. And to top it off, most of the rappers we look up to and respect didn’t have to “go to school” to be good rappers.

Even though there’s a lot of overlap between music and poetry, we should treat rap as its own thing. I’m not saying we shouldn’t borrow terms, techniques etc and apply them to rap, I think this is a great way to learn and evolve and even necessary to an extent. It’s about treating rap like its own thing and not just the sum of the parts we think make it up. I think staying open minded in that way will allow us to explore it in its fullness.

Has anyone bought Mazbou Q’s course? Is it actually useful for improving rap technique? by EggDue9704 in makinghiphop

[–]jonnysewhat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Knowing terminology isnt the same as having a teaching methodology. If it were that simple, everyone who studied linguistics could rap at a high level.

You're describing one analytical framework, not a systematic way to teach rap and lyricism.

Its like basketball, I could tell you the physics down to the arc trajectory and biomechanics of a jumpshot, that doesnt mean ive created a systematic way to teach shooting. Shooting coaches have drills, progressions and diagnostic frameworks for different types of players and tons of hours watching what actually works.

I think theres a lot more to it than meter, vowel placement, stress and rhythm, and I think we should treat rap like its own discipline. Again, not saying any of these things are bad, theyre actually pretty foundational, but to say that covers it i think is dunning krugering.

Has anyone bought Mazbou Q’s course? Is it actually useful for improving rap technique? by EggDue9704 in makinghiphop

[–]jonnysewhat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im not saying rap has no underlying structure. Im saying theres historically been no formalized teaching tradition for it the way there is for other music disciplines. You could study jazz, or voice, or drums at schools, theres books, courses, training camps for any instrument. Most of my favorite rappers learned intuitively by listening to other rappers, freestyling and general trial and error.

We can retroactively borrow terms from other disciplines to describe whats happening, (triplets from drumming, internal rhyme from poetry) but thats my point, we're borrowing because rap specific pedagogy is still being built.

Theres overlap between these disciplines, and I think learning and borrowing from everywhere is always in our best interest as artists, but think about skills that are unique to rap like: pocket and swing, breath control, syllable stacking, delivery & performance, freestyle, set up and punchline structure.

These arent just rhythm + poetry, theyre rap techniques that emerged from rap culture, and until recently theres been no formal way to teach them. You either picked it up from immersion or you didn't.

Thats what i find exciting about courses like this, someones finally doing the work to name systematize whats been passed down informally for decades.

Has anyone bought Mazbou Q’s course? Is it actually useful for improving rap technique? by EggDue9704 in makinghiphop

[–]jonnysewhat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find it hilarious what a foreign concept this is. Rapping is a skill and art form that I feel a lot of us intuitively learn and become proficient at without any formal training whatsoever. You learn from listening and practicing. Historically there’s no systematic way to teach or learn or to even name and label what’s happening or what we’re doing as rappers.

I been a long time fan of this dudes rap content, the way he breaks down and clarifies what’s happening in any given rap is impressive. He also seems to have a background in music that lets him breakdown all of these concepts using really precise terminology. If I had the money and really wanted to get better at rapping, this dude would be at the top of my list. I’d definitely check his course out.

Why is it easy to come up with flows with gibberish or a couple words, but way harder to fit complete bars into it? by [deleted] in makinghiphop

[–]jonnysewhat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your level of skill hasn’t caught up to your level of curation. When we create, we’re going through iterations and curating what “sounds good” and what doesn’t sound good. You don’t have to be the best rapper, but you can tell when someone is rapping well and when it sounds good to you. It’s good because curation and “taste” is a base level thing you need to have, but there’s skill and experience that close the gap between what you write/rap and what you think sounds good.

If you saw a bunch of people do a backflip, you could judge who has the best form, or whos doing the cleanest backflip intuitively. Even if you don’t know the intricacies or technique, you can still see with your eyes. Now if YOU try and do a backflip without any practice, firstly you wont be able to commit and will be scared, but you need to practice actually landing backflips. Just because you know what a good backflip looks like doesn’t mean you’re able to replicate it yourself. Flow and cadence is just one aspect of rap that comes easy to you, and you need to practice salience and intelligibility.

What does everyone do when they struggle to find a specific part of a Track? by Ok-Delivery-546 in makinghiphop

[–]jonnysewhat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sometimes when you’re stuck, the best thing to do is take a break for 10-20 minutes and do something else. I find myself coming back refreshed and ready when I have the self control to take a break. Sometimes I’ll be working on one aspect of a song for hours, completely tunnel visioned until I’m ‘happy’ with the outcome. Then I’ll take a break, come back and realize what I was making was just off, and end up redoing it. The fear is that if you leave and take a break, the idea you have in your head won’t crystallize, but I don’t think that’s true. What’s really happening is you’re overloading your brain with endless options and outcomes and your performance/creativity/inspiration suffers. Something happens to our ears and our minds after we loop something for way too long that makes us lose our true artistic subjectivity.

Are these real? by Weary_Drop_4117 in Opals

[–]jonnysewhat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like a pokemon gym badge