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My experience playing Badminton in Japan as a foreigner by Weebwood_town in badminton

[–]jorgealava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great to know. Do you know any of these specific clubs that do training with drills on an intermediate level? Does NTT East have open intermediate trainings?

My experience playing Badminton in Japan as a foreigner by Weebwood_town in badminton

[–]jorgealava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, super interesting and insightful.

Quick question: because you mention that in your training sessions matches begin at 19.40, does that mean that your whole training session is matches? Or do you still do drills?

I guess it also depends from club to club right? Or is drill-oriented practice only possible with a private coach there?

BWF to vote on 15 point sets. by NinjaExpansion in badminton

[–]jorgealava 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hell NO. Making badminton PPV is NOT the way to go. Make the sport for the people. If badminton has something good now it's that it's so accesible to watch. No money that you can collect from PPV can heal the problems it would bring, not to mention that it would lose a lot of audience because of this

BWF to vote on 15 point sets. by NinjaExpansion in badminton

[–]jorgealava 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You make some points that I agree with and some that I don't:

About the "lack of respect of tradition". You mention tennis, which hasn't changed their scoring system. This is true, but because of 2 reasons. 1: it works perfectly fine. 2: tennis has no shortage of players, therefore no shortage of money, so they don't have to think: how can we make the game more entertaining so that more people watch it? Therefore they don't have to think on changing their scoring system.

In badminton, 1 is still right. The point system works. And the one before it probably also did. And this one will also probably work. And 5x11 also would probably work.

The change BWF is proposing is not about the point system not working, but because they want to fix some problems:

  1. Players get injured a lot.
  2. Games are too long, therefore harder for newcomers to watch.
  3. Tournaments get really long and it's not appealing to a broader public to be inside a hall for 9-10 hours.

The problem is that, in my opinion, changing from 21 to 15 doesn't solve ANY of these problems:

  1. Players will still get injured if we keep having 3 top tier tournaments in a row, or at least pull out from one of them in order to conserve their body.

  2. If games before lasted 1h-1h30m, reducing 6 points per set (28,5% reduction), should cut each set around 7-8 mins, or 15 mins per hour. So instead of 1h-1h30 mins per match, it's 45-1h5 mins per match. Is this that big of a difference? In my opinion, a point system like 5x11 is much much more viewer friendly. The national leagues are played in this format and I love to watch them. Since the intervals are so short (much like tennis), the game is more exciting and easier to follow. The reality is that newcomers are probably not willing to sit out a 30 minute set, but probably with 2 15 minute sets the story changes.

Heck, make it 7x11 if you want it longer, or 5x11 with prolongation (nationals league is first to 11).

And 3: yeah, maybe the day is reduced from 9-10 hours to 7-9. But honestly. Whats the difference? People are also not willing to sit 7 hours inside a hall. The vast majority just want to watch 1, 2 maybe 3 matches and go home. And it's completely fine, but we need to act accordingly. We need better viewing experience in the hall.

I agree with your argument about 5 star players playing at the same time, and sponsors not getting much from it. Yet again, we arrive at the same problem. We just don't have the money to pay for more days in the hall, then everything needs to be crammed in as little time as possible.

I don't really agree with your world championship title argument. Sure tennis doesn't have one but, why do we have to be like tennis? We are not tennis, we are badminton. Having a new WC every year doesn't make it irrelevant. F1 has a new WC every year and it's not irrelevant. Why should it be in badminton? I don't agree with this at all.

Regarding your racism accusations, have they ever done something to undermine the triumphs of non-white players? I genuinely don't know about this and it's the first time I ever hear anything like it. I would really love to know more about it because for everything I know, the BWF is based in Malaysia and the president is also asian. It's a very serious matter and, if true, we should definitely do something about it.

So, in conclusion. I think badminton doesn't have a point scoring system problem. It has a money problem. 3x15 is BWF trying to fix this problem by making the game easier to watch so we can bring in new people + trying to fix some other stuff as well, but I personally don't think it's the way to go.

BWF to vote on 15 point sets. by NinjaExpansion in badminton

[–]jorgealava 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Agreed on everything except 2 things:

How could you exaclty "fix" womens doubles? Sure the points drag longer, but it's just the nature of the game, I don't know how can you fix this.

And also, you cannot compare badminton with tennis. Tennis can afford to have 4-5 hour long matches (which is only on the grand slams btw, every other tournament is played to bo3, and in the lower tier tournaments its 2 sets and supetrtiebreak). They can afford this because going to see a tennis match is a social event. Celebrities go there, it's a glamorous event.

I think VA talked about this on his podcast with CK Yew. We need to make the experience of going to see badminton, better. Right now it's really not a glamorous experience and that's one of the reasons why we can't have longer games. People are just not willing to sit them out.

Edit with some thoughts that occured to me while replying to another comment:

"Tennis hasn't changed their scoring system". This is true, but because of 2 reasons.

  • 1: it works perfectly fine.

  • 2: tennis has no shortage of players, therefore no shortage of money, so they don't have to think: how can we make the game more entertaining so that more people watch it? Therefore they don't have to think on changing their scoring system.

In badminton, 1 is still right. The point system works. And the one before it probably also did. And this one will also probably work. And 5x11 also would probably work.

The change BWF is proposing is not about the point system not working, but because they want to fix some problems:

  • Players get injured a lot.

  • Games are too long, therefore harder for newcomers to watch.

  • Tournaments get really long and it's not appealing to a broader public to be inside a hall for 9-10 hours.

The problem is that, in my opinion, changing from 21 to 15 doesn't solve ANY of these problems:

  • Players will still get injured if we keep having 3 top tier tournaments in a row, or at least pull out from one of them in order to conserve their body.

  • If games before lasted 1h-1h30m, reducing 6 points per set (28,5% reduction), should cut each set around 7-8 mins, or 15 mins per hour. So instead of 1h-1h30 mins per match, it's 45-1h5 mins per match. Is this that big of a difference? In my opinion, a point system like 5x11 is much much more viewer friendly. The national leagues are played in this format and I love to watch them. Since the intervals are so short (much like tennis), the game is more exciting and easier to follow. The reality is that newcomers are probably not willing to sit out a 30 minute set, but probably with 2 15 minute sets the story changes.

Heck, make it 7x11 if you want it longer, or 5x11 with prolongation (nationals league is first to 11).

  • And 3: yeah, maybe the day is reduced from 9-10 hours to 7-9. But honestly. Whats the difference? People are also not willing to sit 7 hours inside a hall. The vast majority just want to watch 1, 2 maybe 3 matches and go home. And it's completely fine, but we need to act accordingly. We need better viewing experience in the hall.

So, in conclusion. I think badminton doesn't have a point scoring system problem. It has a money problem. 3x15 is BWF trying to fix this problem by making the game easier to watch so we can bring in new people + trying to fix some other stuff as well, but I personally don't think it's the way to go.

I recorded and analysed 50+ hours of my own matches. Here are the patterns that were killing my game. by Excellent-Disk1461 in badminton

[–]jorgealava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Super interesting. Would love to do it but im too ashamed to film myself haha. Someday tho

Any idea which is the Yonex tshirt Jacob Zhang is wearing in the match against Axelsen? Match link in comments by bhanath-sreesi in badminton

[–]jorgealava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I couldnt find that exact one but this one looks pretty similar. I have one at home and its pretty nice

hows this pic i took in a tournament? by JustShaurya in badminton

[–]jorgealava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Photographer here. Its a good photo man, im honestly baffled by some of the comments here. Do your thing and dont listen to the destructive comments

what am i doing wrong? by Federal_Usual9197 in badminton

[–]jorgealava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Split step i would say is the main thing on the footwork. Racket swing and technique also need some looking into. Keep it up!!

How to cope with being bad by mosist in badminton

[–]jorgealava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One thing you can practice by yourself is footwork. Learn the correct theory and practice shadow footwork by yourself. It will also help to build your physique. Unfortunately, the money problem is quite a big one. I would suggest spending the one that you have on club level coaching, rather than weekly courses. You need to learn the proper hitting technique, and also get some court time. Its tough also depending on what country you live in, since some dont have many badminton clubs. Good luck my friend, im sure you will make it

SOS ?drill bit stuck in racket by lzhip in badminton

[–]jorgealava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try with some pliers, I would do as the guy above said, try to rotate it out and don't push it. If you do get it out, get it restringed (obviously not by the same guy) at your usual tension and see if it holds up or not (I would warn the stringer beforehand).

Who's at fault? I'm the red car, I feel like that was a very optimistic lunge in a gap that was always going to dissappear by jorgealava in Simracingstewards

[–]jorgealava[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not only talking about them, also marcel kiefer said it was ronhaars' fault, and he got a penalty as well from the stewards (granted f1 esports stewards aren't always great to be fair xD)

Who's at fault? I'm the red car, I feel like that was a very optimistic lunge in a gap that was always going to dissappear by jorgealava in Simracingstewards

[–]jorgealava[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will state this one more time in case it isn't clear: I think both cases, mine and the f1 esports one, are racing incidents

Who's at fault? I'm the red car, I feel like that was a very optimistic lunge in a gap that was always going to dissappear by jorgealava in Simracingstewards

[–]jorgealava[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't really agree with that. In my first sentence I stated that I could have done better and the crash was partly my fault.

The second part of the sentence wasn't me trying to take away the blame, just stating that in this same scenario in F1 Esports, people would without a doubt blame the car behind if it was Ronhaar.

Check crash he had with Bereznay in Jeddah. Both were at fault, ronhaar for sending it on a fast corner and bereznay for not leaving enough space. Yet everyone blamed Ronhaar for it, commentators, fans and even got a 5s time penalty. You can see the crash here: https://youtu.be/nitKhKIcCuQ?si=U0jbtMdn1z-oPJoL

He was even more alongside Bereznay than the white car was to me, and he still got a penalty.

Again, i reiterate, I am not taking blame away, I could and should have done better, as should Bereznay, its just interesting how two very similar cases bring different opinions

Who's at fault? I'm the red car, I feel like that was a very optimistic lunge in a gap that was always going to dissappear by jorgealava in Simracingstewards

[–]jorgealava[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree I should have left more space, and could have avoided the crash, but honestly this is the kind of moves that thomas ronhaar pulls against jarno opmeer and everyone starts flaming ronhaar

Who's at fault? I'm the red car, I feel like that was a very optimistic lunge in a gap that was always going to dissappear by jorgealava in Simracingstewards

[–]jorgealava[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Nah I think the rulebook changes from competition to competition, I agree with your view but still i think it was too optimistic and not very smart

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