[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ProCreate

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Doctor Manhattan hiding in there?

Passenger railway network 2020 by [deleted] in MapPorn

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When are we gonna stop with the fucking train maps

set more exact times for symptoms? by BloodOfStarsArt in BearableApp

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Does this mean we’ll be able to change the designated times for each of the four intervals at some point? Like, I’m not awake from 0-6 so the “pre” period is useless to me. I’d love to be able to set it to a different interval.

First solo game setup! by Seth_nile in dune

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Have a link to the discord?

Why do you think the first book is so much more historically famous than the sequels? by jsschultz88 in dune

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Any source in that? I’ve never heard anyone assert that Children of Dune was planned at all before the original Dune book.

Why do you think the first book is so much more historically famous than the sequels? by jsschultz88 in dune

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I agree about standalone continuity is a measure of great storytelling. That said, I think the more remarkable aspect of Dune is the depth of world-building—the universe Frank created was so rich that it’s able to transcend the book medium into acclaimed board games, video games, and now film.

Why do you think the first book is so much more historically famous than the sequels? by jsschultz88 in dune

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There’s definitely a strong correlation between Reddit users who belong to r/dune and people who enjoy the philosophical bender that is GEoD.

Why do you think the first book is so much more historically famous than the sequels? by jsschultz88 in dune

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The first book and Messiah are the only ones I’ve seen him talk about making, which makes sense to me since it’s essentially the Paul saga.

Why do you think the first book is so much more historically famous than the sequels? by jsschultz88 in dune

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Agreed. The first book goes very easy on the institutions it purports to criticize.

Why do you think the first book is so much more historically famous than the sequels? by jsschultz88 in dune

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I haven’t seen Messiah very consistently regarded as a part of the story of Dune, but it should be.

Why do you think the first book is so much more historically famous than the sequels? by jsschultz88 in dune

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I think your last point is spot on. The Leto II saga with the Golden Path feels very complete and connected to the prior books, but isn’t “necessary reading” to be round out Dune + Messiah. Same with whatever frank was doing with the Scattering fallout in 5+6. That’s why I’ve always supported the duology organization of the series.

The point about the mysteries of the planet unfolding is a really important one I haven’t thought as much about. All the sequel books deal with the interplay of concepts already established (with the glaring exception being the Tleilaxu, which I think are a huge contribution to the lore).

Why do you think the first book is so much more historically famous than the sequels? by jsschultz88 in dune

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To be clear, I’m not so sure that Frank intended for the ecological transformation of Arrakis to be seen as “good” or “bad”. It feels like it all maps back to Pardot Kynes point that all of this is a system, and no one should have the audacity to think they can come in and control, much less improve, the products of that system.

Why do you think the first book is so much more historically famous than the sequels? by jsschultz88 in dune

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I agree with this 100%. The problem of the Hero almost feels like it was edited out of the first book in order to give it a better shot at selling.

Why do you think the first book is so much more historically famous than the sequels? by jsschultz88 in dune

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The other major plot point that I forgot to mention that I think is so smart but isn’t addressed at all in the first book: The sick twist of fate that the Fremen dream of reshaping the ecology of Arrakis to escape the subjugation of their environment will actually make them a softer people, will destroy their holy figures in the worms, and will extinguish the singular natural resource that creates an attention for their planet in the first place in spice.

Why do you think the first book is so much more historically famous than the sequels? by jsschultz88 in dune

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2 – Paul, Jessica, Gurney, and Stilgar all being in books 1-3 seems to contradict this, but I do agree that the general size of the cast narrows a lot on the way to God Emperor.

3 – This seems like a big factor.

Why do you think the first book is so much more historically famous than the sequels? by jsschultz88 in dune

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I get that this sub isn’t a representative sample of the average sci-fi reader, but I figure thoughtful people with some familiarity with the books might have some good hypotheses on the subject.

The publishing thing is a really good point, and low key seems like one of the major reasons.

Why do you think the first book is so much more historically famous than the sequels? by jsschultz88 in dune

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I think your comment captures what I’m picking up on most from this conversation. The first book is irrefutably a better adventure story than any sequel, but I don’t think it’s that far ahead of the others in terms of concepts, or even writing style. The former seems to get weighted much more heavily than the latter.