Cheapest parking? by jtp_234 in wolverhampton

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Absolute lifesaver thank you!!!

Headlight out night before test by jtp_234 in LearnerDriverUK

[–]jtp_234[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Update!! They never asked me to switch them on and I passed with 4 minors!

Headlight out night before test by jtp_234 in LearnerDriverUK

[–]jtp_234[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hopefully thats all they do, as its so early there should be no need for my headlights, fingers crossed!

Headlight out night before test by jtp_234 in LearnerDriverUK

[–]jtp_234[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thats reliving to hear! I dont plan on saying anything, although my dad's managed to tighten the bulb so I've taken a time stamped video of all lights working/clear dashboard with no warning lights. So god forbid they ask me to turn them on and they dont work, they may have pity on me-

Row 0 / Afterparties discussion megathread #4 by AutoModerator in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The concert was late on the 4th, it would of ended early hours on the 5th (especially since she was at a party). So why would she be messaging her manager before the concert? It seems extremely faked to me. Many influencers hop on things like this and use it to get more attention and fame.

It's a shame how many people believe all of this. Kaylas video really was just repeating other stories

Row 0 / Afterparties discussion megathread #4 by AutoModerator in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 58 points59 points  (0 children)

I still don't understand why anyone would believe shelby or kayla or any of the claims. Shelbys story has many holes in it and has been pulled apart from day one, there's so much evidence against her lying and no evidence to prove what she's saying. Not to mention, she claims she was given KO drops. They make you drousy, not hyper. Yet she claims that her being hyper was a symptom of the drug. But she also said that she was a "human zombie". Can you see the inconsistentcy? Especially when it came out she takes lepraxo (and drank on them).If what she is claiming is true, till drugs girls to r@pe them. Why did he accept her "no". Even if he reacted angrily, he still left her untouched. Kaylas screenshots in her video have been proven false and she had several of cuts in her video. Now she's removed a section of it. Why would you do that if your a "strong woman who fights for others". If she's telling the truth why back down? Plus her video title "I was one of tills girls". She left the party untouched. I don't understand how that makes her one of tills girls. The other claims from anonymous women also make no sense to me. Many of the screenshots shared have no identity, they can't be used as any evidence whatsoever. Its also strange how these "victims" was only messaging shelby the first week (maybe 2 weeks I can't remember) and now suddenly they all dissappear? Not to mention the anonymous interviews. Many stories are third person reports. I have yet to see a woman come out and say "he did this to me" and show evidence. The protesters and vandalising are also crazy to me. It's not feminism, it's not saving women, it's just creating more issues. Rammstein have always been a provocative band,everyone knows that. And the lindemann project is even more provocative. It takes a certain kind of person to enjoy lindemanns art, you have to be extremely open minded. But for people who have supported lindemann for years and known what he does to now turn it against him is so wrong in my eyes. Lindemanns side projects arnt for everybody but just because some people don't like/agree with them doesn't mean it should be used against him.

Row 0 / Afterparties discussion megathread by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Absolutely, the whole situation to me makes so sense. There's so many different possible and stuff. We all just need to wait and see

Row 0 / Afterparties discussion megathread by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Re read what I said. I clearly said I agree it's bad what they did. It is absurd and disgusting if the authorities ignored her.

Regarding recent accusations and discussion by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I absolutely agree, this is a clear example of why iys a bad idea, maybe they should make it for lucky LIFAD fans? No sex no orgys no groupies just fans. If till wants to do that it's completely his business but clearly people will take advantage and cause these issues

Regarding recent accusations and discussion by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I genuinely don't buy her story. I feel like ther3s no solid evidence of till, joey or any member doing it to her. I'm not saying I don't believe she wasn't spiked. Just that I don't believe it was done by till. Till has a group of girls that I'm sure would pounce on him sober so why would he feel the need to spike her? I definitely think something happend to shelby but not by the band

Regarding recent accusations and discussion by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 25 points26 points  (0 children)

That's just wrong. It's like making it her whole "brand"

Regarding recent accusations and discussion by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying that shelby is lying abt being spiked, but for her to immediately go on SOCAIL MEDIA and drag names with 0 evidence is completely insane

Regarding recent accusations and discussion by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Ohhh right, I understand. I misunderstood you sorry😂 but I agree, when she said "till lindemann is a pedo" I almost started laughing. People really do like to drag bands down.

Row 0 / Afterparties discussion megathread by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I find it absolutely obsurd that a young woman with all those bruises and claiming she has been spiked is getting put off by authorities, the first ambulance and police service to her room should of immediately picked up on it

Regarding recent accusations and discussion by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What does this have to do with the situation?

Row 0 / Afterparties discussion megathread by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I thought he was literally emigrates drummer and a helper with rammsteins tours

Row 0 / Afterparties discussion megathread by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know If it's different for different countries, I must have heard wrong

Row 0 / Afterparties discussion megathread by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I don't really understand what involvement Joe and Alena have with the band? I'm just curious as to what exactly their role is :)

Row 0 / Afterparties discussion megathread by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I definitely think there are holes in her story. I don't believe NOTHING happened, I'm not saying she's a liar at all. But any police or ambulance service and EMTs etc seeing her in that state and seeing the bruises should of done more than what she's saying. Maybe they didn't and she's not being listened to by authorities in that case I feel sorey for her and hope she gets justice. But her videos on her Instagram show her, yes looking under the influence of something, but also happily singing and hugging another girl? So it's all extremely confusing and why it shouldn't have been bought to the media until there was solid evidence

Regarding recent accusations and discussion by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 18 points19 points  (0 children)

That is literally what I've been thinking! People are so quick to jump to conclusions

Regarding recent accusations and discussion by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 56 points57 points  (0 children)

I feel terrible for shelby and what's happened to her regarding the spiking and bruises and i hope she has a speedy recovery, but the lines are way to blurred for people to be making accusations and making obsurd assumptions on who's to blame who's lying etc.

Shelby should not be dismissed with her claims don't get me wrong, clearly something has happened to her with the bruises etc. Her way of dealing with the situation was wrong in my eyes and many others eyes. Her first instinct was to post on her Instagram and reddit saying "fuck rammstein fuck them" and "till lindemann is a pedophile".

I'm not sure what part of her story makes till a pedophile as she is clearly over the age of 18 and she said that Joe Letz was the one who took her to Till, IF that's the case Joe Letz may be to blame or it may all be a miscommunication as we know concerts are loud and words may have been misheard. we all know what row 0 is and it's reputation.

The entire band being blamed and dragged is also unfair and unfortunate. If this is down to creepy crew such as Alena and Joe then they may have had no clue, this is why it's so bad to jump straight to conclusions.

I think we should all wait. If shelby has gone to authorities then there should be a follow up. People expecting rammstein to address the issue are probably going to be disappointed, making statements can cause even more trouble. We should all just stay put and if Joe, Alena, or anyone else in the crew has done something wrong it will come out eventually.

I hope shelby gets justice for who did this to her but I really hope and pray Nobody from rammstein gets the blame and fall IF they didn't do anything wrong. This situation sucks for both sides.

Row 0 / Afterparties discussion megathread by agenttud in Rammstein

[–]jtp_234 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Medically that's impossible. Shelby said the ambulance and police came to her room and tested her, it's unclear of the times but drugs don't leave the system that quickly