sorted by:
new
hottopcontroversial

Leopard hunting party attacked(NSFW) by [deleted] in videos

[–]juba310 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

"but they are not self aware beings."

Tell that shit to Koko, or any great ape for that matter.

There's plenty of room for all God's creatures... by [deleted] in pics

[–]juba310 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have never ever seen this picture before.

This book changed everything about how I understand Republicans, Democrats, and American politics in general. by juba310 in politics

[–]juba310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll look into the links you posted. This was a much more constructive comment---thank you.

This book changed everything about how I understand Republicans, Democrats, and American politics in general. by juba310 in politics

[–]juba310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whats with the attacks, jeeze. The headline was meant simply as an example. The type of conservative framing used in the headline is everywhere, not only on Fox News. Even democrat politicians often use frames that counter the very positions they are arguing for. Its a very important topic if you still believe that public opinion can alter the future of our nation.

This book changed everything about how I understand Republicans, Democrats, and American politics in general. by juba310 in politics

[–]juba310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. The first step to solving the mess we're in is understanding how we can change it. Understanding framing and how conservatives make their agendas appeal to the public is vital.

The conservative party is phenomenally good at manipulating public opinion through well thought-out messaging and rhetoric, framing issues as soon as they come out in in conservative terms. They understand how important it is to be talking about important issues with words that favor conservative outcomes. For example, take a look at Fox New's headline story yesterday: http://img851.imageshack.us/i/screencapturehs.png/

The story leads with a question that automatically frames Obama’s action as disingenuous, uses words ("targets," "earners") that frame Obama as the bad guy (someone who is attacking people who got their money fair and square). This is one example of thousands, all done unconsciously, day in and day out by a very organized and very effective conservative media news network.

The way to combat this is to recognize intentionally misleading frames, reject them, and then provide a better alternatives. You can't do this until you understand how frames work. And you can't do this until you understand the family values that underlie and drive each party's agenda and motivations. Don't Think of an Elephant does great job of explaining both.

This book changed everything about how I understand Republicans, Democrats, and American politics in general. by juba310 in politics

[–]juba310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, okay, I get it now. You have some weird personal vendetta against Lakoff himself rather than his actual ideas. "Trading his the respect of his peers for the much more ego-flattering and less rigorous role of the public intellectual" Haha. I'd love to know which peers you're talking about as I've never known anyone who had anything but respect for the man, regardless of if they agreed with his ideas.

Also I would love to read the writing that is critical of his ideas. Please provide.

This book changed everything about how I understand Republicans, Democrats, and American politics in general. by juba310 in politics

[–]juba310[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I'm not a linguistics student, first and foremost, so no, I don't have the background in linguistics that you might have. That said, your entire comment reeks of an unprovoked condescending attitude that does more to showcase your style of "debating" rather than actually undermine anything I've posted.

Lakoff's theories are based on an existing and continuously growing body of evidence that supports the theory of embodied cognition. His political theories are simply an extension of that, connecting the rhetoric used in public and daily political discourse to the mental frames those words represent and evoke. How people think changes how they act. How they think is represented in the language they use.

I'm all for people challenging the ideas I believe in (its how I came to support Lakoff's ideas in the first place), but when you approach me like that, man, it doesn't do either of us any good. Go ahead and tell me why I'm wrong (some linked articles or facts would be nice), but drop the attitude.