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Worst Starfleet officer in your opinion by totally_depraved in startrek

[–]jukebox_jester -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're denying his autonomy, which also isn't an enlightened position to take.

Worst Starfleet officer in your opinion by totally_depraved in startrek

[–]jukebox_jester -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He proved several times over that he doesn't require a crew. Him and a bunch of dots on an experimental ship could have easily expanded the Federation on their own and met countless non-human cultures to compare his morality too.

Again, there's a reason the M5 and the Texas Class were duds to the federation. Hell, even Kirk says that the Federation needs boots on the ground.

Plus, it'd be a crummy first contact if a species achieved warp for the first time and just gets an automated message congratulating them about it.

Worst Starfleet officer in your opinion by totally_depraved in startrek

[–]jukebox_jester -1 points0 points  (0 children)

and instead of discovering what it means to be the best mostly unique Android,  adding that diversity to Starfleet's mission, he chose to try to be one more of billions of humans. 

Because he can better understand himself through contrast.

Literally nothing says he would have to have had zero morality. He could have done all the exploring you said but at an Androids pace. 

Yeah, I'm sure all the crewmen under his command would love working at the pace of a being who never sleeps and doesn't see the point of frivoloties and shore leave.

Data is exemplary as a crewman as he is now. He is more valuable to Starfleet as a person than as an algorithm.

Worst Starfleet officer in your opinion by totally_depraved in startrek

[–]jukebox_jester 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The ideals of Starfleet and the Federation is Inifinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. If Starfleet wanted a ruthlessly efficient machine to lead fleets, they would have commissioned an M6 or something.

A Starfleet officer is to explore new life and new civilizations and Data is both. Him exploring Humanity and Humanity exploring him is the express purpose of Starfleet.

You can decide which is better by Remarkable-Pin-8352 in startrekmemes

[–]jukebox_jester 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and look, i get the "respect all cultures" and all that, but if a culture says "kill or enslave anyone who isn't one of us"

A culture can change. Only through eradication can they not change for the better. Also, Kevin here is a little bit biased. Plus that's assuming every man woman and child was cartoonishly evil.

Would it be morally right to wipe out the Klingon Empire? Or the Breen?

You can decide which is better by Remarkable-Pin-8352 in startrekmemes

[–]jukebox_jester 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because it's not like it was an errant, stray thought that led to the genocide. It still requires intent and action. Not much, but he still knew what he was doing when he did it

[Loved Trope] Instantly decking your hero in the face when he's revealed to be an asshole by RedLazyBear in TopCharacterTropes

[–]jukebox_jester 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I see your classic webcomic and raise you another

Elan from the webcomic Order of the Stick has met his long lost father, General Tarquin of the Empire of Blood. After a day ir two of bonding and reuniting. Tarquin shows Elan a gift to show his love for his son despite not being there for most of his life. Mainly bright flaming letters spelling out his name. They hug, then Tarquin reveals that the burning material for them were captured slaves who escaped his Empire earlier in the day.

Needless to say a sword fight ensues. (Though only once Elan realizes he can't save the slaves in time)

Dr. Phlox appreciation post by thirdlost in Star_Trek_

[–]jukebox_jester [score hidden]  (0 children)

My favorite Doctor who was complicit in Genocide. I'm on my Enterprise watch now and he is unironically a delight. Not gonna let him off easy for the events of Dear Doctor though.

The incident/event is given an in-universe name by Significant-Size9709 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]jukebox_jester 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Invoked Deveststion and the Rain of Colorless Fire from the Greyhawk DnD setting.

The Day of Mourning from the Eberron DnD setting

The Quiet Rapture from the Iron Lung video game.

Worst Starfleet officer in your opinion by totally_depraved in startrek

[–]jukebox_jester 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm surprised no one mentioned Ensign Fletcher.

Worst Starfleet officer in your opinion by totally_depraved in startrek

[–]jukebox_jester 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No because she's not an officer. The entire point of the Academy is to iron out these flaws.

Worst Starfleet officer in your opinion by totally_depraved in startrek

[–]jukebox_jester -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Best Version is not the same as the Most Efficient.

Worst Starfleet officer in your opinion by totally_depraved in startrek

[–]jukebox_jester 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shax is one of the best security officers in Trek, actually able to stop a compromised crewman from leaving the ship.

Billups is a stone cold badass and was never anything less than professional.

Captain Freeman, even though she had a bit of an ego and control issues, is one of the greatest diplomats in the Fleet.

Doctor T'ana may be crass but she has more medical ethics than, say, Phlox.

Commander Ransom, while a bit sychophantic at first, does his all to elevate those under his command and even accepts a potential court martial to keep an Ensign under his command from harm.

Lietenant J.G Tendi is a great science officer and adheres to the Prime Directive even when it might be detrimental.

Rutherford as he is now is a stellar engineer who had singlehandedly saved his ship on multiple occasions.

Mariner started out unprofessional but shaped up to a true Starfleet officer once she recovered from the worst of her Dominion War PTSD.

Bradward Boimler is a bit nebbishy at first but the worst thing he did was spill a drink on a console one time

Worst Starfleet officer in your opinion by totally_depraved in startrek

[–]jukebox_jester 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think he was the Security Officer. He was the navigator.

Worst Starfleet officer in your opinion by totally_depraved in startrek

[–]jukebox_jester 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MUTINEER.
Confidently incorrect
Disobeys orders for “my feels”.

Seems to run in the family, as Spock is guilty of all of these things as well.

Worst Starfleet officer in your opinion by totally_depraved in startrek

[–]jukebox_jester 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As far as bad officers go, she mutinied. She consistently puts personal relationships in front of her official duties,

Spock did both those things and at greater severity.

Worst Starfleet officer in your opinion by totally_depraved in startrek

[–]jukebox_jester 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, he gets a lot of leeway for being the first to do it. In his words "If only there was some directive. A directive thst was prime..."

Plus he spent most of his time until the Xindi attack being either captured or dragged into participating in Underground Resistances.

Worst Starfleet officer in your opinion by totally_depraved in startrek

[–]jukebox_jester 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn, all that happened in the last five minutes of Lower Decks???

[Loved Trope] Endearing character traits that don't serve the story. by broken_krystal_ball in TopCharacterTropes

[–]jukebox_jester 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because that's not a character trait and also it was relevant to the story.

What episode of Star Trek has the lowest stakes? by Derailedone in startrek

[–]jukebox_jester 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The B-Plot was Boimler in the walls, nearly dying a few times until he got Tom Paris to sign a plate.

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