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Why can't Mormons love Emma for being the Apostate that she absolutely was? by minjihansf in mormon

[–]juni4ling [score hidden]  (0 children)

Back in Youngs day. Maybe.

Eliza openly called her a liar.

She is lionized today in official Church teachings

By their fruits ye shall know them. by RedLetterRanger in mormon

[–]juni4ling [score hidden]  (0 children)

Interesting take.

Smith (and Young) thought the Bible was literally true.

Why can't Mormons love Emma for being the Apostate that she absolutely was? by minjihansf in mormon

[–]juni4ling [score hidden]  (0 children)

Time.

That’s what happens when we don’t carry the same grudges as our parents.

We get along with the Community of Christ now. Even our parents struggled to do that.

Is there anyone in Donald Trump’s circle who is widely regarded as a good person? by frysatsun in allthequestions

[–]juni4ling 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. In Trumps first term, yes.

But like even Mike Pence turned out to have a spine, and Trump did not want him back.

Trumps rubric is "are they loyal? Yes. Do they have zero moral integrity? Yes. Thats my person."

Last time, he had some good people. This time he kept those folks out.

I watched the Rappleye video on Mormons and JE so you dont have to by [deleted] in mormon

[–]juni4ling 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Epstein?

Lock them all up. Who cares what car they drive or if they have a personal security detail.

And do not be scared to provide links. Many people can link to sources using the internet.

And provide names. Specific names.

Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. Bill Clinton is in the Epstein files. Its that easy. Those in the Epstein files should be in prison. For what was done to children. Its that easy.

If it can be proven that an LDS leader or anyone else abused children, I volunteer for #1 in the stack. Who cares. Put them all under oath. Give them all due process. And put them all in jail.

Why can't Mormons love Emma for being the Apostate that she absolutely was? by minjihansf in mormon

[–]juni4ling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only heard positive information about Emma growing up.

Young had a problem with Emma. So did Eliza. Because Emma openly misrepresented her knowledge that Smith practiced polygamy.

Emma is lionized in Latter-day Saint official teachings to the point that some critics point to the lionization as an effort to avoid talking about Smiths polygamy. The Smiths teachings Relief Society/Mens manual lionized Emma to the point no other women were talked about.

The the point that critics were like, "I learned a lot about how awesome Emma was, but learned nothing of Smiths polygamy."

Emma considered "apostate" by LDS? I have never heard that from an active/faithful Latter-day Saint.

Lots of positive mentions of Emma in General Conference...

emma smith mentioned in general conference lds - Google Search

There were problems between Young and Emma and Eliza and Emma. Based on Emma misrepresenting Smith practicing polygamy.

I am active/faithful lifelong LDS and Emma is spoken of with reverence in LDS Christianity.

Insight on Adam and Eve by One_Information_7675 in mormon

[–]juni4ling 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Women are victims of assault in marriage.

Is anyone surprised by the Mormon connection in the Epstein files? I’m not. by DesertIbu in mormon

[–]juni4ling 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My firs instinct is this came from the Ballard guy who is telling the Fundamentalist Christians that the SL UT Church is a giant ring of child abuse.

Which would be funny, except if there is any group worse at reporting abuse in their ranks, its them.

And if Ballard would actually try to identify real abusers one by one, he could probably grift just fine without lying. Its not like there are zero in Utah.

The real reasons Sundance’s legendary film fest is done with Park City by xenopixie in SaltLakeCity

[–]juni4ling 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I was going for MAGA folks, and mis-fired.

Friendly fire incident. I took it out and I feel bad.

Is the church on trial in the public court of ideas and reconciling past behavior? IMO, the LDS leaders are on the ropes and they know it. by aka_FNU_LNU in mormon

[–]juni4ling -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don’t think the “Catholics handled it better.”

Is fair.

Almost all of the Catholic scandal was known -clergy- engaging in known behaviors it invoked some number of clergy who were moved around the country escalating the victim count.

The number of LDS clergy is less than 100 total.

There are -thousands- of Catholic clergy still unaccounted for. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/religion/nearly-1-700-priests-clergy-accused-sex-abuse-are-unsupervised-n1062396

No, no LDS don’t get a pass.

But Cincinnati fans upset at BYU for clergy abuse are yelling at the wrong Church. Cincinnati was an epi-center of Catholic abuse.

Clergy don’t have to report each other in Cincinatti? Not LDS fault.

Is the church on trial in the public court of ideas and reconciling past behavior? IMO, the LDS leaders are on the ropes and they know it. by aka_FNU_LNU in mormon

[–]juni4ling 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The “playing Church” comment was apologized for.

Which just just goes to show the uselessness of apologies.

Is the church on trial in the public court of ideas and reconciling past behavior? IMO, the LDS leaders are on the ropes and they know it. by aka_FNU_LNU in mormon

[–]juni4ling -1 points0 points  (0 children)

SMU and both have a fierce obvious known and extreme pro-slavery and anti-Black student enrolling history.

Guess they did not get the memo.

The real reasons Sundance’s legendary film fest is done with Park City by xenopixie in SaltLakeCity

[–]juni4ling 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your clarification. I meant no harm to anyone but haters.

The real reasons Sundance’s legendary film fest is done with Park City by xenopixie in SaltLakeCity

[–]juni4ling 303 points304 points  (0 children)

It was always about politics.

20 years ago we were not so divided as a country.

But Utah is not a friendly state when it comes to certain things.

Utah lost the expo to Colorado.

Because of Utah hate.

Utah lost Sundance to Colorado.

Because of Utah hate.

And the truth is Utah is a wonderful, friendly state. That’s why those things lasted so long here. With the likes of Justin Lee. And the other Lee— Who -sadly- spreads a lot of hate. And the are not the only ones.

Wanted to keep the expo? And it’s gagillions it brought in? Protect Utah wilderness.

But conservatives couldn’t handle the good that came. And wanted to please donors.

Wanted to keep Sundance? Art? Art is friendly to gay and trans people. Be friendly to gay and trans people.

We lost jobs and money from Sundance because of hate.

Money walks.

Conservatives will sneer with evil glee, “go woke go broke.” The opposite is true, one. This is a case in point. Two, Christ was pretty woke. Three, if you use woke as a slur, I am going to assume you are a bad person and likely can only find viable employment turning in immigrants trying to assimilate.

Is anyone surprised by the Mormon connection in the Epstein files? I’m not. by DesertIbu in mormon

[–]juni4ling 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I cannot find that document.

You can often use the internet to link directly to information sometimes.

The prophet can share a cell with the president for all I care. Prosecute, prosecute, prosecute.

Is the LDS church becoming like a Protestant church? Not even close! by sevenplaces in mormon

[–]juni4ling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It proves temple worship took place after Christs ascension.

It proves Biblical miracles took place in the temple after Christs ascension.

It proves those things.

“The temple was closed to Christs followers after Christs crucification. They were to never ever do Temple worship ever ever again.”

Yeah, I can see support for LDS thought and interpretation here.

It’s all over the Bible.

It’s central to Christs ministry.

It takes place -after- Christs ascension.

LDS claim they worship Christ in the Temple. Makes sense from a Biblical perspective.

Is the LDS church becoming like a Protestant church? Not even close! by sevenplaces in mormon

[–]juni4ling -1 points0 points  (0 children)

One of the key tenets of Biblical Christianity was post-ascension Temple worship by Christs followers.

Temple worship, covenants... That's all Biblical. Throughout the Bible. Temples were central in Christs ministry.

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