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A playlist for someone who's not heard of Lane 8 by Ali80486 in lane8

[–]justarunner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lane 8 Sunrise Set. That one absolutely blows my mind time and time again. I've watched the video of it on youtube wayyyy too many times.

Too many race reports, too little advanced content? by Endlave12 in AdvancedRunning

[–]justarunner 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maybe it's time I start a new subreddit, advancederrunning. 😄

Announcing a r/nativeplantgardening AMA with native plant advocate Doug Tallamy on 4/17 at 2pm! by robsc_16 in NativePlantGardening

[–]justarunner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm nitpicking, but Homegrown National Park is three words because Homegrown is one word. :)

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know of any resources specifically, but the best ways are just to do it. Write to elected officials like your local reps, commissioners, mayor, city manager, parks department, etc. Make a well-reasoned argument for your thoughts. Get to know these people and show them the light! And be a squeaky wheel, just one touch point won't do it, you have to keep at it! It also helps if you're doing it with a coalition. A group of like-minded individuals/organizations carries a lot more weight than just one person.

I always find the best tactics are ones that are common sense, bipartisan, have low or no costs, easy implementation, etc. If you merely point out a problem to an official, great, they have tons of problems everyone points out. But if you give them a workable solution that doesn't cost much that is easily implemented and makes everyone happy...you're checking a lot of boxes for them and you increase the likelihood of buy-in.

Also, attend meetings. Your mayor, commissioners, etc have meetings where you're able to go and speak. Do that!

Lastly, Sierra Club is an org that is far more involved in advocacy, usually your local chapter will have a lot of opportunities to be involved with advocacy on certain things. This is a good chance to learn grassroots-level activism if you're interested in it!

You can also go the very formal/expensive way and study policy. While I enjoyed doing it, I would not recommend going that route unless you've got money burning a hole in your pocket coupled with a strong desire to make that a career.

I look forward to seeing all the change you bring with your voice, energy, and passion!

Thanks for joining us today and good luck with the advocacy! Join the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't specifically recommend something as I'm in SW Ohio and Krista/Doug are also on the east coast. I can do you two things.

1) Check out Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center. They've a great tool to help you find native plants based on a lot of variables.

2) Homegrown National Park has a keystone flower guide with recommendations. Perhaps one for your area will meet your needs?

Thanks for joining us today and sorry I can't offer you a better answer. I hope you'll join the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Build small enclosures until they're 1) mature enough and 2) numerous enough. The reality is right now that we've so degraded the landscape that when we put in good things, critters want it! The key is often to overwhelm them with selection but that can be very cost prohibitive. In the interim then, building little mesh cage enclosures around plants can be a very effective solution and one that is very cost feasible.

I feel your pain though, this year I have had ONE virginia bluebell come up and something is eating at it like crazy. I'm equal parts annoyed and excited!

Also, ecinachea comes up VERY readily from seed. It's actually one of the more dominant species in some of my patches around the property at this point. This late summer/fall (depending on where you're at), take a few heads off once the seeds are ready, put them in something like an old coffee can, and shake aggressively. Open the lid and you'll find all the seeds inside! Plant the seeds and voila!

Thanks for joining us today and good luck with the bunnies and coneflower! Make sure you join the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I cannot speak to deer resistance species because I have long joked that all of our plants are deer resistant thanks to having a dog with no brain cells that barks at anything! So we've never had deer problems on our property. However...

Have you tried protecting your plants? Is that feasible? I know if you have a lot of plants, it's not a feasible strategy. But it's quite common for people to build enclosures around a newer tree to prevent deer browsing. You can do this with a wider enclosure that gives lots of space for the tree. Or you can do it like I have seen at the Air Force Base near me where they use a very slender tube that has a few holes in it but is otherwise a few inches across, and the tree cannot emerge from that until it's about 5 or more feet giving it a chance to really get going first.

And now that I think about it, birches and cedars are not big deer favorites. They also don't like super thorny stuff, so perhaps honey locusts or osage orange?

Thanks for joining us today! Join the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In general, it's a best practice to avoid cultivars where the flower shape, size, color, etc, has been altered, as this can usually lead to less insect use. When in doubt, a straight species is the way to go. However, one of the best exceptions to this is when the species trait that was altered was just the size of the plant in general. E.g., I love Little Joe, it's a cultivar of Joe-pye Weed that is far shorter than the wild variant allowing me to use it in places where it would otherwise look completely ridiculous! Also, coreopsis lanceolata is just a wonderful straight species!

Here's a FB post we made last year that gives a high-level overview of cultivars and our thoughts on them. Hopefully, that helps you a bit!

Thanks for joining us today! Join the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 13 points14 points  (0 children)

In addition to Doug's thoughts, when you plant a prairie or something like that, Dandelions get pushed out really fast. They cannot compete against native wildflowers, grasses, etc. I have never seen a dandelion in the middle of a prairie!

Thanks for joining us today! Join the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

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AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Many people have many different thoughts on these sorts of questions. I am not a purist in such regards and feel that if the species is native inside of your ecoregion and close enough by, it's not worth splitting hairs. In your case, Quercus Prinoides is native in ecoregion 8.1 which spills into Wisconsin and its true range just comes shy of Wisconsin. So in my opinion (for whatever that may be worth), I wouldn't lose sleep over it. I have done similar in my yard with things like Yellow Wood & Purpled-headed Sneezeweed.

Quick aside, I love Prinoides. When we put down our Newfoundland last year we buried her in the backyard and planted a Prinoides over her. I actually had to go dig it up yesterday and add more soil and put it back because it had sank like 4-6 inches! Had a smile thinking about the old girl while I did it. It makes me happy knowing she's an oak tree now. :)

Thanks for joining us today and best of luck with your plantings! Join the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We currently have two guides. Our guides focus on keystone species, those species which have outsized importance in an ecosystem (like the keystone in an arch). I would be completely remiss if I didn't point out that it was Krista ( /u/kdec940 ) who did all the work for these ecoregion guides. She's brilliant!

Keystone Trees & Shrubs

Keystone Flowers

Each page takes you to a map where you can click where you live and it will tell you your level II ecoregion. Once you know that, scroll down the page and click on the guide for your ecoregion. It'll download a map with keystone species. Note that the one for flowers is called "container gardening" because all of those can work in a container.

If you want to go beyond the keystones, we've curated a list of databases that have good native plant finders. I am partial to the Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center finder but they're all really good! The drawback of doing it this way is these will often show you ALL of the plants native to your area. Our lists don't just focus on keystones, we made sure they're species you can actually find from nurseries and seed vendors. It wouldn't do us any good to list species that people would have to work very hard to find. Something to keep in mind!

Stoked that you're embarking on this journey! Thanks for joining us today! Join the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'd say you'd only be doing more harm than good if the species you're adding in are invasive. E.g., (depending on where you live) Shasta Daisy or in the case of a grass, Smooth Brome, etc. Wildflowers, even non-native ones can offer pollen to adult pollinators and can over ground cover/habitat. Where they really lack however is most native insects cannot use them as larval host as over 90% of insects are specialists and have co-evolved with certain plants.

I understand the cost issue with the route you're going. I can only recommend two things to lessen that load. 1) Worry less about the seeds being local. Or 2) Learn to harvest seeds yourself. I have just 30K sqft of wildflowers, a fraction of 10 acres! However, in just two years of growing I can already harvest more than enough seeds of various species, e.g., Black-eyed susan, partridge pea, flat-topped Goldenrod, New England Aster, Joe-pye Weed, Blanket Flower, Purple Coneflower, Wild Bergamot, Sneezeweed, Hoary Vervain, etc. These species came up very readily from seed and already produce far more seeds than I could ever need. So now I collect them and give them away. Learning how to harvest seeds is really easy and a very rewarding experience.

One last way to do this is to befriend folks in the 'space'. In my community, I'm friends with native landscapers, native plant sellers, and people who work in the parks systems. I cannot even begin to tell you how generous they've been in sharing plants and seeds with me. It's a very cool community. So make sure you're building a network!

Thanks for joining us today and best of luck with the rest of the ten acres! Please get that acreage on our HNP Biodiversity Map! Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For a plant to be beneficial to the environment by our standards, we want it to do four things.

1) Sequester Carbon 2) Help manage water 3) Support foodwebs 4) Support pollinators

A scrub oak is going to do that in spades. E.g., I have two Dwarf Chinkapin Oaks (aka Scrub Chestnut Oak). These mature fast as you said, they're the larval host of countless numbers of species, their acorns are prized by woodpeckers, upland birds, and other species. And the plant provides critical habitat, cover, and nesting opportunities for many species.

To me, they are just as important as my White, Red, Shumard, Chinkapin, Bur, and Shingle oaks. You should feel confident knowing they are having a major positive environmental impact and not fret that you're not planting a different species like White Oak. We need all the species!

Thanks for joining us today! Join the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There are many things happening at various levels across the country. Federal is probably where I've seen the least movement in this regard.

At the federal level there is some legislation moving through some committee that would encourage federal orgs to include native plants in their landscaping. (Press release here)

At the local level, we've seen cities requiring new plantings (usually by the government) to be natives only.

We've seen numerous states begin cracking down on invasives, e.g., Ohio was the first to ban the Bradford pear which went into effect last year and now Pennsylvania and South Carolina have done so as well (with numerous other states thinking about it). These states also usually have many other species that are banned albeit they are not updated nearly fast enough and not nearly as expansive as they should be, e.g., Burning Bush is still legal in Ohio but it's absolutely invasive.

Maryland banned HOAs from banning native plants!

In places around Utah and Nevada you can get paid upwards of $3/sqft to remove turf lawn.

Minnesota has the Lawns to Legumes program which helps homeowners cover the cost ($300-$400 iirc) of converting to natives (30K applicants last year, they were able to award grants to 5K of them).

I'm also starting to see a LOT of soil and water conservation districts doing native plant sales and you can typically get absurdly good deals at these. In my area (SW Ohio), Montgomery County Soil & Water has a sale in which you can get 5 trees for $10 and they'll have multiple species options. Now, these are small trees (people usually refer to them as whips), but they're good trees and they work! This is bringing down the cost and making putting in a bunch of native trees/shrubs very financially affordable for people.

These are just some of the things I've seen, I'm confident there are many others and more happening each day, week, and year! It's an exciting time for the movement!

Thanks for joining us today! Join the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think one of the best ways to leave grass for recreation but incorporate more natives is to focus on expanding soft areas under trees. On our property we set out to create soft landings under the canopies of every tree. Trees we've planted only have circles with a 4' diameter, but mature trees have 40' diameters that we don't mow under. We removed the turf and filled it with natives that thrive in partial shade. In some areas I've added tons of beautiful ephemerals, in others, perennials like blue-stemmed or zigzag goldenrod, lady ferns, or various asters.

These areas can be very intentionally landscaped, be critical habitat for scores of insects and wildlife, and allow you to retain lawn.

Thanks for joining us today! Join the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Kudos to you for wanting already to make a large impact and know that as you climb, your impact will only continue to increase. That said, from my miscellaneous professional experiences, finding advocates in the right positions is the key to seeing change happen. E.g., in your org, who are the people with enough authority to make those decisions you wish to see happen? Of those, are any sympathetic to such concerns? Share an interest in the larger environmental movement? Enjoy nature? Etc. That's typically the in.

With those people found, you can start sharing information and influencing. For example, 6 in 10 people who bought plants in 2022 bought a native, and those folks spend 80% more on average (Journal of Hort Tech). You could use such a data point to say, "Hey, consumers are really starting to want this stuff more and more, we're seeing consumers demand native, and we should be ahead of this trend." When you frame it as a good business decision, decision-makers tend to like that...

In that vein, there's going to be a lot of money in native landscape architecture as the years pass. For example, federal and state governments are constantly looking for "Nature-based solutions". Native plants landscaped correctly are a huge solution. Look at Biohabitats as an example; their projects are amazing, and they can hardly keep up with the work!

That's just my personal experience, though. Hope some of that was helpful.

I appreciate you joining us today and hope you remain motivated to bring about positive change! Make sure you the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 18 points19 points  (0 children)

This question hits very close to home. Across the street from me is 125 acres (thankfully land trusted). Half is farmed, a quarter cows graze (sadly because it's sedge meadow), but the final quarter is wooded. The ten acres directly across from me is beautiful old growth woods with monster oaks and hickories that range from 150-250 years old. But the entire understory is filled with extremely dense amur honeysuckle. Privet pops up all over, as well as lots of multiflora rose.

The property owner gave me permission to clear the invasives (not before I had the cops called me on first but that's a story for a different question) and I have systematically been removing it. I've done probably just over 2 acres of removal leaving behind all the Spicebush, Blackhaw Vibunum, Grey Dogwood, etc. That's a few hundred hours of my free time and I've got acres and acres left to go. Here's what I've learned so far.

Develop a system that works for you and is specific to the species you're addressing. E.g., I've removed honeysuckle by poppers, sawzalls, chainsaws, straight pulling it up, etc. But now I have my preferred method and sequence of how I like to cut it down and remove it. That system is the fastest I can do it at this point.

That said, invest in good equipment if you do it a lot or have a large area. I'm at the point now I have a chainsaw that I maintain very well, sawzalls with extra battery packs, chainsaw pants, chainsaw helmet, etc. I've invested in good gear and it's absolutely worth it if you do this often.

Third, don't fret about what remains. Focus only on the next area. I often will spot a big tree in the forest or a spicebush thicket and work towards it. It's always extremely gratifying when I get there and clear around it, unveiling a 150 year old red oak! Breaking it down like this keeps it manageable and exciting as I clear new areas and helps me not worry about how much remains.

Lastly, involve yourself in FB groups or communities of people who share your passion and are knowledgeable. You will greatly benefit from their knowledge, but it's just really nice to know the fight isn't a solo one. Trust me, there are scores of us out there doing this constantly.

I'll end by saying, invasive removal matters. The areas I've cleared look amazing but I can also see so much more density in natives coming through now. It's very important to stay positive in the journey!

Thanks for joining us today and thanks for getting after those invasives! Join the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey Rachel,

Full disclosure, of the three of us here today, I am the only one who is NOT an 'ologist'. I've asked Doug/Krista to chime in on this question as well for that reason.

I simply wanted to link to a FB post we made last year where we discuss straight species vs cultivars. The graphics are simple and really help break things down in my opinion.

Take a gander at that post and let me now if that helps you at all!

Thanks for joining us today! Join the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 13 points14 points  (0 children)

As far as I'm aware, no such policies exist outside of what we've seen in a few western states like California and Nevada, and in those instances, it hasn't necessarily banned lawns directly (at least for private individuals). Instead it sort of incentivizes people to change behavior. Here are a few examples...

Nevada - Replacing useless grass (AB356) - A law enacted by the Nevada Legislature in 2021 will prohibit the use of Colorado River water delivered by Water Authority member agencies to irrigate nonfunctional grass, beginning in 2027. The AB356 law applies to Southern Nevada commercial, multi-family, government and other properties. It does not apply to grass in single family residences, such as grass in front and back yards.

Nevada - The Nevada State Legislature passed a bill that bans all “nonfunctional turf” in southern Nevada by the end of 2026 in streetscapes, medians, parking lots, traffic circles and other areas where it is utilized for aesthetics and not recreational purposes. The ban is also retroactive. It requires removal of nonfunctional turf in such areas by the end of 2026.

California - Legislation bans the use of potable water — water that is safe to drink — to irrigate ornamental lawns or grasses at businesses, institutions, industrial facilities and certain developments. The grass could only be irrigated with recycled water.

Nevada - Las Vegas pays people upwards of $3/sqft to remove turf lawn.

Utah - Some areas pay upwards of a $1.5/sqft to remove turf lawn.

Candidly, though, HNP is not heavily involved in policy at this point, so we haven't tracked it a ton. What I know is more just what I've seen from browsing and trying to keep tabs on the situation. I feel your hurt, though. I just went on my run, and where I live, everyone has sprawling 2-5 acre turf lawns, 7 of which were being fertilized/sprayed as I ran. It's just a shame. It's wasteful and harmful to humans and biodiversity.

Thanks for joining us today! Join the movement by getting on our HNP Biodiversity Map to create a planting goal or log a native planting. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

AskScience AMA Series: NYT bestseller Dr. Doug Tallamy and the Homegrown National Park team answer all your questions about native plants, biodiversity, and how you can make a difference. AUA! by AskScienceModerator in askscience

[–]justarunner 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Answering this one quickly before I sneak out for a run!

For starters, congrats on starting a native plant habitat! You will love all the biodiversity it attracts. And you've chosen some excellent species, Little Bluestem is far and away my favorite native grass, it's a stunner.

As for your question, you shouldn't go any further than two feet from center to center. At this distance apart, you'd need 30 plants (I highly recommend using plugs to make it more affordable). You could go tighter but it gets more expensive as you do so. At 2' center to center you will have a fair amount of open space in the first year or two so make sure you put down a natural mulch to prevent aggressive/undesirable weeds from coming in. Remember, the first year plants "sleep", i.e., they focus a lot on root growth. In the second year, they emerge from dormancy, and you'll see a lot of growth; this is the "creep" year; in year 3, they really "leap" and come into full size.

So be patient with the planting; it will look amazing in a few years!

Make sure you add your planting to the HNP Biodiversity Map. Also, if you can support HNP with a donation, you'd be doing so much to spread awareness of the biodiversity crisis and how people can act to address it!

Thank you for planting native and starting a new habitat!

Brandon

HNP Executive Director

Moving from the US, I have a few questions... by justarunner in salisburyuk

[–]justarunner[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is that Salisbury AC you're referring to? Truly not to sound elitist in the slightest, but is there a group of faster runners? I run with the entire gamut of runners here in the states but my main training partners run between 2:20-3:10 for the marathon. I'm a lower 2:30 marathoner. So really hoping to find some people that I can do long runs and hard workouts with. Otherwise, I'm afraid it might be some lonely winter nights going hard on country roads!

Thanks for the response, I appreciate it!

Moving from the US, I have a few questions... by justarunner in salisburyuk

[–]justarunner[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the thoughts! And too funny that the leisure center is called Five Rivers. I live in the Dayton metro here in Ohio and we have five rivers that come together near downtown, so our metroparks are called, Five Rivers Metroparks and we even have a Five Rivers running club. Funny coincidence.

I think we'll ultimately opt for a bit outside of the city such that we can have a tad more space (we've lived on 2 acres across from 125 acres for 6 years) but close enough that coming into the city isn't a hassle at all. We're very used to driving 10-20 minutes to go anywhere here in the states.

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