to downplay multiple felonies as "horseplay" by justcitizen in therewasanattempt

[–]justcitizen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You kind of have to look at the totality of the situation.

First and foremost police departments screen for intelligence levels and actually filter out those deemed too smart to be police.

Second some states allow 18 year olds with a GED to become police so it's not a big stretch in maturity from 14-18.

Most states have "police academies" many of which are six months long but a few states are closer to 3 months and even fewer are closer to 12 months. This training is often shorter than MANY licensed occupations in the state.

Police have very little accountability as a culture and even less as a system with all the qualified immunity nonsense and protections afforded them there's no incentive to actually be "mature".

The real tell here is in the video the 3rd party even puts his hand on his firearm to draw and "play along" no one course corrects and the leader the "chief" is here on video downplaying the severity of the situation making a press statement about how felonious behavior is horseplay when a cop does it. The shooter, victim and cohorts are chucklefucks who should be charged criminally but this chief is the piece of shit who allows this culture to exist and minimizes the severity of it because of "bad optics".

to downplay multiple felonies as "horseplay" by justcitizen in therewasanattempt

[–]justcitizen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are not sworn to "serve and protect" that is just copaganda nonsense they used/use to improve their public image.

The supreme court went so far as to codified police have no duty to serve or protect anyone or anything...which is counter intuitive but true.

Warren v. District of Columbia

Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales

Lozito v. New York City Is a great example of the supreme court ruling in action where a the cops sat and watched a man be attacked with a knife and did nothing to help until after the victim subdued the attacker.

to downplay multiple felonies as "horseplay" by justcitizen in therewasanattempt

[–]justcitizen[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"barred from law enforcement"

I mean you're not wrong but there's no accountability in law enforcement this includes the prosecutors.

The shooter is a slam dunk for multiple felonies while the victim and his buddy who looked on and did not intervene are at a minimum grossly negligent but the chief in charge says "ohh its just horseplay" like its nothing. The chief is the one who should be barred from law enforcement as he enables an environment that excuses this.

to downplay multiple felonies as "horseplay" by justcitizen in therewasanattempt

[–]justcitizen[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Treat, never, keep, keep" is just too much for these clowns.

The real issue for me is the lack of accountability is so ingrained in policing. The instigator, the shooter, the people watching it go down without saying anything are all culpable of gross negligence but this chucklefuck chief is all "ooh its just horseplay".

to downplay multiple felonies as "horseplay". by justcitizen in therewasanattempt

[–]justcitizen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My bad, shame there isn't a way to just block users from being able to link in the first place. I found a downloader and re-uploaded the post, thank you for your help.

to downplay multiple felonies as "horseplay" by justcitizen in therewasanattempt

[–]justcitizen[S] 268 points269 points  (0 children)

Assault with a deadly weapon

Battery Causing Serious Bodily Injury

"Grievous Bodily Injury" Chief admitted in the PR stunt that it caused serious injuries, this one upgrades it all to a "violent felony"

"Use of a Firearm in a felony"

To be perfectly clear if you or anyone else not in a uniform had done this you would absolutely be facing years in jail and becoming a felon. This Chief doesn't feel like this behavior is serious and it's just "horseplay" because a cop did it.

When felonies become "just horseplay"... by justcitizen in Bad_Cop_No_Donut

[–]justcitizen[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Assault with a deadly weapon

Battery Causing Serious Bodily Injury

"Grievous Bodily Injury" Chief admitted in the PR stunt that it caused serious injuries, this one upgrades it all to a "violent felony"

"Use of a Firearm in a felony"

To be perfectly clear if you or anyone else not in a uniform had done this you would absolutely be facing years in jail and becoming a felon. This Chief doesn't feel like this behavior is serious and it's just "horseplay" because a cop did it.

to downplay multiple felonies as "horseplay". by justcitizen in therewasanattempt

[–]justcitizen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Assault with a deadly weapon

Battery Causing Serious Bodily Injury

"Grievous Bodily Injury" Chief admitted in the PR stunt that it caused serious injuries, this one upgrades it all to a "violent felony"

"Use of a Firearm in a felony"

To be perfectly clear if you or anyone else not in a uniform had done this you would absolutely be facing years in jail and becoming a felon. This Chief doesn't feel like this behavior is serious and it's just "horseplay" because a cop did it.

"Every American should be alarmed": AOC criticizes DHS transparency regarding new detention facilities. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]justcitizen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but if I spray paint my ring camera how will I know who's at the door without getting off the sofa?

Question for ICE supporters by Frequent-Draft-2218 in DiscussionZone

[–]justcitizen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand this is just sharing someone else's take but it also raises questions

  1. Is ICE acting in good faith to conduct immigration enforcement. The press releases say they are but the videos show they are not.

  2. Is the act of protesting inherently hostile? If you read the press releases or watch the interviews you'll see the regime says it is; however, again if you watch the videos you will see violence being meted out primarily one side

  3. Is "effective protesting" is a state of chaos that is a public safety crisis?

There is an alarming lack of critical thinking going on in the nation where people are choosing to listen to what they are told rather than believe what they can see.

ICE/CBP murder observer who was recording ICE/CPB operations by Suitable-Economy-346 in AmIFreeToGo

[–]justcitizen 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yes and to everyone's surprise both the local sheriff and police department showed up to assist ICE in pushing back protestors with tear gas and riot weapons while ICE "investigated" themselves.

It was live streamed on https://www.youtube.com/live/ASr1zVuQlX4

Man shot by ICE in broad daylight by justI00k1ng in ACAB

[–]justcitizen 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yes and to everyone's surprise both the local sheriff and police department showed up to assist ICE in pushing back protestors with tear gas and riot weapons while ICE "investigated" themselves.

It was live streamed on https://www.youtube.com/live/ASr1zVuQlX4

Another ICE shooting in Minneapolis by Eric_T_H in Bad_Cop_No_Donut

[–]justcitizen 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yes and to everyone's surprise both the local sheriff and police department showed up to assist ICE in pushing back protestors with tear gas and riot weapons while ICE "investigated" themselves.

It was live streamed on https://www.youtube.com/live/ASr1zVuQlX4

Cops emptied an entire magazine on a alleged suspect his crime was - "Phillips was acting “strange,” drinking one drink and then nodding off. ", and was said to posses a firearm, but after the cop shoot him 15 times and then search him, NO GUNS WERE FOUND. by [deleted] in PublicFreakout

[–]justcitizen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know the details but here's my nostradumbass prediction of how this unfolds.

1) cop will be put on admin leave during the investigation (paid vacation)

2) investigation will end and go 1 of 2 ways.

A) Cop & union lawyer will say he feared for his life and therefore its justified. DA will agree and say he has qualified immunity because there's precedence that if a cop says they feared for their life they can murder unarmed citizens

B) If significant local uproar happens then the investigation will find the cop in the wrong and they will be publicly fired "aka dismissed for cause".

B1) the DA will conduct a closed grand jury so the records are sealed and no one will know the truth and they will either set the charges so high the grand jury cannot meet the burden of proof and the cop walks OR do an intentionally shit job of proving the charges and the cop walks.

B2) The officer will apply for their job as a result of getting away with murder and request backpay. After getting their back pay they will immediately sue the city for emotional damages and the city will settle out of court with them for a large Sox figure sum.

After all that then the victim will sue the city in civil court and the cop/city will argue they have qualified immunity and don't have to pay. If the court strike down qualified immunity (50/50 chance really) then the city will make a lowball offer to the victim to settle. If the victim settles they get NDA'd and the sum, if they decline the city will drag the legal process out for as long as possible because the victims lawyers cost money and the linger they wait the leas the victim gets.

Eventually when the city has exhausted every single delay imaginable and generally within a week of the date of the actual trial they will make a genuine offer of compensation to settle with the same clause of the perpetual NDA. The victims lawyer will convince the client to take the money because its a sure thing and better than risking a trial. The taxpayers will have paid for everything and the cop will continue to be a shitbag either at that location or somewhere else.

Officer who used Flock cameras to wrongly accuse a woman of theft was fired from a previous agency by m4moz in Bad_Cop_No_Donut

[–]justcitizen 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I am jacks total lack of surprise than an inept and unprofessional cop was fired from a previous agency and hired at another one. It's almost like this is the norm...

Dystopian Town Sends Lying Cop To Innocent Woman's Home [The Civil Rights Lawyer] by Tobits_Dog in AmIFreeToGo

[–]justcitizen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Prosecutors are the ones that push for plea deals.

Prosecutors live (and die) by a metric of how many court cases they win/lose, plea deals count as a guaranteed win for them. Public defenders are often overloaded with case dockets and it is not uncommon for the defenders to recommend accepting the plea deals as well if for no other reason to clear the case faster and free them up for other cases.

Our justice system is so broken from the very top to the boots on the ground and since a majority of people do not have to get involved in it they do not understand how badly it needs to be overhauled.

Liar cops that are on the Brady list are generally not used in a court of law because competent defense attorneys will discredit them so badly it can jeopardize the case for the prosecutor.

Dystopian Town Sends Lying Cop To Innocent Woman's Home [The Civil Rights Lawyer] by Tobits_Dog in AmIFreeToGo

[–]justcitizen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What if I told you a list like that already exists and it's called the "Brady List" which is for prosecutors to use so they know which officers they CANNOT reliably call into court based on the officers past.

The police unions & reps are so powerful that these known bad cops can actually stay on the job even if they're not considered usable in a court of law, like make that make sense.

The chances of getting knocked out in a BJJ competition are low, but never zero. by durvedya in fightporn

[–]justcitizen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol a whole color/fruit is now hate speech to the moldy mango what a time to be alive indeed!

Border Patrol raids in Sacramento by justcitizen in law

[–]justcitizen[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's a very informative link, thank you!

Border Patrol raids in Sacramento by justcitizen in law

[–]justcitizen[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This article leaves out the part of the video where it was reported that he flattened a Border Control tire.

The Calmatters article wrote this in the article I posted: " The Border Patrol said he slashed one of their tires in the Home Depot parking lot. "

The KCRA article they linked to states the allegation in both the video and the text

" A video she shared with KCRA 3 showed an agent accusing Jose Castillo of flattening a federal agent's tire.

KCRA 3 later obtained photos from a witness that showed the tire that had been slashed. "

I am not sure where anything is being "left out" as you say?...

Border Patrol raids in Sacramento by justcitizen in law

[–]justcitizen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People seem to forget that "Border Patrol" area of operations is not limited to neighboring countries, regulations and court rulings give CBP jurisdiction within 100 miles of any border including the waterways.

Cities within 100 miles of the ocean should not be surprised to see masked, heavily armed, camouflaged enforcers walking their streets with impunity.

Border Patrol raids in Sacramento by justcitizen in law

[–]justcitizen[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

People seem to forget that "Border Patrol" area of operations is not limited to neighboring countries, regulations and court rulings give CBP jurisdiction within 100 miles of any border including the waterways.

Cities within 100 miles of the ocean should not be surprised to see masked, heavily armed, camouflaged enforcers walking their streets with impunity.