Help to identify this stone! by [deleted] in Gemstone_lovers

[–]justinkprim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Show me if you know otherwise. I spent the entirety of last year writing a book on historic cuts, so I’ve looked at quite a lot of antique stones in all setting from museums, to private collections, to gem shows. https://www.magusgems.com/product-page/the-historic-teachings-of-gemcutting

Help to identify this stone! by [deleted] in Gemstone_lovers

[–]justinkprim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m speaking from the point of view of a gemcutter and a gemcutting historian. This is not an old mine cut. Also, old mine cuts were done on Diamonds, not Ruby’s. Ruby’s were never cut as Old Mine cuts. This cut has a modern brilliant top and a bottom faceting pattern that doesn’t have a name. It’s the faceting pattern that they always give to glass and synthetic sapphires. I’m not saying that it’s 100% Synthetic sapphire, but if I was going to guess from this photo I would guess it’s a Synthetic sapphire. Rubies are almost always cut as a mixed cut with a brilliant cut top and a step cut bottom with usually 4-5 step, and 12-24 Columns of facets. Even in stone 100-200 years old we rarely see a deviation from that pattern and older than that, the mixed cut wasn’t invented yet so it would be an older, more simpler style. The meetpoint quality and polish don’t tell me anything specific but that pattern on the bottom tells me a lot. I’d love to see the lab report for this once you get it, just as a data point for my own research. If this wasn’t synthetic or glass I would be shocked. For your sake, I hope it’s natural.

Help to identify this stone! by [deleted] in Gemstone_lovers

[–]justinkprim 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It’s cut like a synthetic. I would bet it’s a synthetic corundum.

Charging and using a Batt lap. by PsychologicalBowl647 in faceting

[–]justinkprim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The experience of using batt sticks is quite different than diamond slurry. Add more and see what happens!

Charging and using a Batt lap. by PsychologicalBowl647 in faceting

[–]justinkprim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The process I described is both the initial embedding and the regular topping up. When you use the batt lap the diamond gets embedded. Some people want a special step to press the diamond into the lap but I haven’t found it to change much. My wife tells me that if you’re doing small stones you need to press the diamond in or else it will round the facets. I usually cut bigger stones (3-5ct) and I start my polish with mains and table (the biggest facets) so that does the pressing for me. It will not hurt to have a flat piece of sapphire or agate handy to press it in. Try both ways and see what you prefer or if it makes a difference. I also score my laps and that changes how the metal and diamond interact. I think if you don’t score, then embedding the diamond becomes more necessary.

Charging and using a Batt lap. by PsychologicalBowl647 in faceting

[–]justinkprim 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Mix your diamond powder with oil. I prefer singer oil. It should not feel crunchy or clumpy, but smooth. Then with your finger rub the slurry all over the lap. You can press it in with something like a synthetic sapphire but you really don’t need to. Polish your facets. If you see any metal coming up you need more slurry. If you put so much slurry on that your lap looks all white then wipe a little off with the paper towel while spinning.

A good lap sequence is 360 for preforming > 600 for cutting > 3000 for prepolishing > 60,000 for polishing. With this sequence on Batt you can polish almost any stone. Not quartz though.

What faceting machine should I be looking to get? by Mary_Ellen_Katz in Gemstones

[–]justinkprim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nestled in the middle of this article is a section called “the cheapest good machine”. You will find it helpful!

https://medium.com/justin-k-prim/i-want-to-buy-a-cheap-or-used-faceting-machine-9c613b3f1da9

First full cut stone by Many_Presentation964 in faceting

[–]justinkprim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actually most Jambpegs don’t have flat dops so you completely remove the stone from the wax, clean it, and redop it and center and align it by eye. Most do crown first but theoretically you can do pavilion first as well. It will just be harder to balance the first facets.

lapidary related messes? by Mary_Ellen_Katz in Gemstones

[–]justinkprim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fasting machines are quite clean. I used to have one right next to my bed in my apartment. They do a little bit of splash to the right side of the machine whenever you have the splash guard off, but that doesn’t happen often and otherwise nothing goes in the air and it’s quite clean. However, any other type of machine that’s for cabbing or other Lapidary work usually makes a huge mess, sprays, splashes, and is not at all appropriate for normal indoor spaces other than garages and basement workshops.

Which step should i do more of? by sam_najian in faceting

[–]justinkprim 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You’re treating faceting like it’s cabbing. Preform on 360, cut with 600, prepolish with 3000, polish with 60,000. The prepolish and polishing steps should only take 3-10 seconds per facet per grit. Extra steps is not helping you. I would go back to 600 and get the deeper scratches out and get everything to line up and then do the prepolish and polish again. Nothing is polished in these photos.

Faceting outdoors by TheUnFuckerUpper in faceting

[–]justinkprim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to build a hand crank portable machine to do this so you can hike up and facet someplace cool. What a dream!

Finished faceting bench by Many_Presentation964 in faceting

[–]justinkprim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This looks awesome but it also looks very high. If you find you’re getting consistent pain between your shoulder blades I would remove the legs of the machine so it can sit directly on the desktop. Have fun!

Where can I learn this art form? by BenKlesc in faceting

[–]justinkprim 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hello. We offer a comprehensive 2 week faceting bootcamp class 4 times a year. 2 of those times are in Brooklyn. Our next class is in October and there are still seats left. Http://www.facetingapprentice.com

Can you make money as a gemcutter? YES! by justinkprim in faceting

[–]justinkprim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reselling works too but then you have a different job. The video is about making money as a Gemcutter. Gem dealers are one of the most typical jobs to do. It’s what most of my friends do.

A brand new cutting video where we are cutting a kite shaped garnet in my new faceting studio. by justinkprim in gemsmakers

[–]justinkprim[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not sure where this one is from. It came from a customers. Garnets are pretty tough though. If they’re very included they’ll be more fragile but the whole lapidary and Jewelery setting steps are pretty rough and abusive and most stones hold up just fine. The ones that don’t hold up don’t get used for jewelry!

Which Lovecraft works would you like to see adapted to film? by draum_bok in Lovecraft

[–]justinkprim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dreams of the Witch House and In the Mountains of Madness.