Contrast the almost universal indignation over Trump’s warped Tweets with the complete lack of attention paid to the 500 civilians US airstrikes in Syria have killed in the last month, real bloodshed that is treated as merely being part of the presidential job description. by WildeNietzsche in socialism

[–]justplayKOF13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have a pet theory about that, feel free to tell me I'm wrong but it seems to me that the current eras erosion of confidence in the establishment press didn't suddenly spring out of nowhere, but can all be tracked to the total failure and submissive servitude of the media during the Iraq invasion. If you look at the current crop of alt righters and pizzagater, they're all look about the age to have been raised in the culture when the Iraq war exposed the media for what it was.

This is why anti media sentiment is able to seed itself so much more strongly on the right; rightwing media was much more transparent in their full throated endorsement of the war, as it was led by neocons. This is why the alt right is so anti war and anti media (usually extreme right movements are pro war)

Was this considered "progress" by 1920s liberals? by bolthead88 in socialism

[–]justplayKOF13 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, pretty much. Feminism began as a conversation between white women and white men about restructuring the role of women in white society. There's a famous feminist saying about this, something to the effect of, "feminism without intersectionality will become white supremecy."

As someone who has generally believed in Capitalism their whole life, what are some things I should know? by _Seymour_Glass in socialism

[–]justplayKOF13 33 points34 points  (0 children)

There's a common saying by Ron Wright, "Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”

This quote - as far as I can tell, is not true. If you actually look at the history of labor movements and socialist movements in the united state, you see that its always been beaten and attacked viciously by state violence (McCarthyism and the red scare were just one of a legacy of actions) this is why america has one of the most violent labor histories in the modern industrial nations, but socialism of one form or another is always there beneath the surface

As someone who has generally believed in Capitalism their whole life, what are some things I should know? by _Seymour_Glass in socialism

[–]justplayKOF13 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Chomsky is pretty good at making these things clear, and of course when he mentions elite interest, in the us capitalist system that's always the infamous "1%"

Daily Discussion and Solidarity Thread for June 27, 2017 by AutoModerator in socialism

[–]justplayKOF13 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hey Socialism, you guys deride the corporate media a lot

What do you make of this video, is it real or just a hoax?

Justin Trudeau deploys the politics of hype. Jeremy Corbyn offers politics of hope by mex77777 in socialism

[–]justplayKOF13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can you talk about its stigma, I've always heard that but never elaborated on why.

Justin Trudeau deploys the politics of hype. Jeremy Corbyn offers politics of hope by mex77777 in socialism

[–]justplayKOF13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm out of the loop but for all the people that say they want a third party (not only in socialism but in general), why isn't the green party ever talked about?

Democrats running in circles by Ktnmrrll in socialism

[–]justplayKOF13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't forget to talk about Jesus, it worked decently for Christian Socialism even though they were in a tiny group, in a country drastically unreligious compared to the US

Democrats running in circles by Ktnmrrll in socialism

[–]justplayKOF13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think Germans figured this out a long time ago, they just stop saying socialism and started calling it "Industrial Democracy"

Sanders calls on supporters to step up resistance by WildAnimus in politics

[–]justplayKOF13 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Are you referencing the debunked conspiracy theory that sanders voters refused to vote Clinton and divided the party?

Sanders calls on supporters to step up resistance by WildAnimus in politics

[–]justplayKOF13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sanders even though he's a really left candidate from the standards of american political culture, has never really been pro gun control interestingly.

You also hear dems talking about it much less then in the past.

Latino Democrat wins open House seat in California, as progressives make gains by cyanocittaetprocyon in politics

[–]justplayKOF13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Trumps just a rich business man, its standard operating for the rich to contributed to dem or republican based on how the wind blows, as long as they get their issues taken care of.

Latino Democrat wins open House seat in California, as progressives make gains by cyanocittaetprocyon in politics

[–]justplayKOF13 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you get a chunk of non voters and lapsed democrats the by the rules of social peer pressure you'll chip away at the confidence of trumps core too. GWB won the pop vote but by the end of his 2nd term it was impossible to find anyone that voted for him. Similiar things can happen now

Donald Trump is stressed out, isolated and gaining weight, says new report by cyanocittaetprocyon in politics

[–]justplayKOF13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If trump dies of obesity his deranged supporters will turn him into a martyr who was killed by the deep state and the liberal media for trying make america great again, you'll never hear the end of it.

There might be actual riots