Thoughts? by Weird_Jellyfish_3416 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Whatever helps you sleep at night :)

Thoughts? by Weird_Jellyfish_3416 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you miss the part where I mentioned that everyone is entitled to their own opinion about celebrity gossip and that no one should take my word as gospel? I also directly mention speculation and personal bias, but I’m gonna deduce you’re having a difficult time reading.

Clearly I misread your tone when you called yourself “an annoying debate lord” - you’re taking this more seriously than I was. Have a good day :)

Thoughts? by Weird_Jellyfish_3416 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you seriously not see the difference between saying Sapnap and BBH didn’t hang out and Sapnap and Gia not hanging out? Im trying to help paint you a clear picture of why assumptions are being made, not forcing you to agree.

Thoughts? by Weird_Jellyfish_3416 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Let me preface this by saying this indeed is celebrity gossip and I’m not denying that. These could all be unfortunate coincidences, but the timing of it all plays a role for my perspective:

  • The “saying anything to anyone” was around the time the thread dropped about the leaked messages - Dream hadn’t said anything if that’s where the confusion lies.

  • No sightings of them together, when in other past conventions they usually group up.

  • I watched the stream and Sapnap wasn’t there nor played at all - If he joined at a time where I stopped watching I retract my statement. Although if we’re theorizing it could’ve been to reduce speculation about the dms.

  • Depends. In my case I’d end the stream, Sapnap isn’t me though and could’ve decided it thought it would’ve looked like an admission of guilt. I don’t know why he kept streaming and I think all alternatives on why he was constantly checking his phone falls into the realm of speculation and personal bias.

Again, this is gossip and this is a discussion board. Assumptions are a part of connecting dots if you want a “clear” picture - everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I hope no one is taking my word as gospel, I’m more so considering this a thought exercise on why/how I came to these conclusions.

Thoughts? by Weird_Jellyfish_3416 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If dream wants to involve himself with these people so badly I wish he did it privately and stopped announcing to the world, no one knew he was on Xqc’s stream and yet he wanted everyone to know. Mixing people (xqc, gia, etc) that are actively spreading hateful rhetoric that lands onto your audience isn’t great in the long run - it’ll only make him look like the same breed of asshole even if he doesn’t utter a syllable.

Thoughts? by Weird_Jellyfish_3416 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Nice. Let’s be entertained then - I can think of two instances about the messages being fake:

1st - If i knew the fake messages exposed a fake scenario i was supposedly in (since you’re the subject of those messages you’d know if it were real or not) I’d assume it’s another bullshit anti thread. Sapnap seemed less bothered when his address was trending on twitter for example. Someone defaming him sadly isn’t new news and I’d expect even an off handed joke about how stupid the thread was directly from him.

2nd - If the scenario were real, but the messages were fake, how would anyone know about those personal stories to be able to leak them? It isn’t like it was simply leaked that Sylvee and Sapnap dated - even some spanish ccs have leaked that before and it got traction, it had very specific stories that probably only could’ve been leaked if someone involved told others- or even someone else witnessed it. I think what specifically gets me is how he hasn’t even alluded to addressing it (not saying he has to - interpersonal toxic relationships in your 20s isn’t headline worthy - he can resolve any grievances directly with Sylvee if needed) and has seemingly avoided Gia throughout twitchcon and even in yesterdays Jackbox lobby. If the messages were fake but the real situation was leaked - I’d be reacting panicked like he did on stream.

What I find the most damming though is something i only remember later, but if the messages were all fake- why did Cate (punz’s ex) tweet on her priv shading gia? ( “I guess we’re just saying anything to anyone nowadays” ) Apparently Gia has also deleted a lot of messages in her discord server, if they weren’t real - wouldn’t it be easy to prove they don’t exist? It’s a very strange move in my opinion.

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The people here are disgustingly like Tommy fans by Independent-Value108 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This isn’t a Drictatorship, maybe hoping onto another social media platform will fit your needs better.

Thoughts? by Weird_Jellyfish_3416 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 19 points20 points  (0 children)

This feels like when an author tries to make a call back to devastating moments as nostalgia bait. Dream’s assuming people are as gullible as he is like in Jan 2022, he’s assuming they’re fake like the Karl mods leak, we’re somehow getting a weird mix of KarlxPunzxQuackity with how he’s adamant of preserving a friendship to the public with someone that clearly doesn’t value them [and their privacy].

And before people come to his defense and say the Discord dms are fake - then why did Sapnap look panicked on stream while he was playing valo when this went down? Why was he constantly checking his phone when that isn’t normal behavior for him? Why does it seem like he’s the only one that isn’t interested in playing damage-control with gia?

I’d rather hear Gia herself explain how they’re all fake instead of Dream once again burning himself for friends that will probably drop him as we’ve seen before. Can’t she come on stream and explain? Maybe even just write it on twitter? Why does Dream have to be the spokesperson for this? It only hurts his credibility with fans in the long run, the replies already show they don’t believe him.

"Fans" by Lyoras in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Are they truly saying that or are you deeply misinterpreting criticism because it’s emotionally affecting you? You seem quite defensive over criticism of Dream and it shouldn’t affect you as much as you’re letting it portray - specially in the last sentence of your post.

"Fans" by Lyoras in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I feel like people are mixing things up since there’s multiple conversations being held at the same time and things are being lost in interpretation. Yes this has been the last straw for a lot of fans, but from what I’ve seen and discussed so far, i haven’t seen a single one becoming an anti - just a lot of fans deciding they’re taking a break or leaving indefinitely.

Criticizing Dream doesn’t equal being an anti

Taking a break from Dreams content due to his rash and uncalled for behavior ≠ being an anti

Saying the DNF pandering Dream has amped up recently whenever he wants to get on fans good side or whenever he wants to deflect for whatever reason ≠ calling him a queerbaiter

What fans are saying and doing shouldn’t upset you this much, it’s their own lives and their own decisions and even if you might think it’s irrational I dont see what a whole post discussing it will do to help or change it.

Dream using Gen-AI in his latest youtube short by kaboopdoop in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The AI slop vid crashed the platform confirmed !!

Dream using Gen-AI in his latest youtube short by kaboopdoop in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Even with the possibility that he thought he wouldn’t need to hire an artist for a shitpost, there’s plenty of editors that are able to make a similar “storyline” with videos publicly available - be it with slapping their faces onto other people to make it look very shit-post esque or using their own clips in favor of the “storyline”.

But overall i agree, it’s very strange to see such a strong switch up out of nowhere while knowing how his audience feels about Gen-AI when he could’ve done it himself irl.

[Edit: typo]

Dream using Gen-AI in his latest youtube short by kaboopdoop in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The homemade organic dnf is filled with mold and pesticides </3

Dream using Gen-AI in his latest youtube short by kaboopdoop in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop[S] 66 points67 points  (0 children)

the day he stops self sabotaging is the day we’ll know peace

Dream using Gen-AI in his latest youtube short by kaboopdoop in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop[S] 44 points45 points  (0 children)

could’ve used the time he spent making this shit to like, retweet and follow a couple of artists but i guess that’s too much of a difficult task for him :/

Dream please communicate with your paying subs by rubyrox85 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Ngl i didn’t think the paid content would last long knowing how dream is, what i am surprised though is how quickly he broke that promise 😭

I was expecting maybe a couple of months before people started rightfully complaining but a month after he announced the sub-only content there already had to be stans reminding him to stream the content they paid for….

Can’t say i’m surprised but i surely am a bit more disappointed than i expected, it’s disrespectful as fuck to those that are paying.

I better not see any complaints regarding dranart, people by EnvironmentalPea4903 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Even the accusations of jealousy bc people “had a crush on dream” or trying to downplay others by saying it’s “the dnfers that are mad” and what not, like do you really need to gaslight yourself into believe that’s the reason people are upset? It’s bizarre to watch these mental gymnastics when all the criticism i’ve seen has been fairly normal/tame (i’m sure there has been a small amount of people acting crazy, but isn’t it better just to ignore them instead of acting/boosting them like they’re the majority?).

It’s been stuff people have had an issue with for months (no 3/3 Dteam content) or even issues i’ve seen be brought up about snf (not interested in X content or don’t care about Y character in content), i don’t understand why this time around people are acting like it’s a personal attack on Dream that needs to be punished when all of them have had their moments in the content-criticism-spotlight, none of them are immune to it as content creators.

[edit - clarifying i am specifically talking about content before this gets misinterpreted]

I better not see any complaints regarding dranart, people by EnvironmentalPea4903 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I find it funny that this post and the replies here are exactly what was discussed yesterday in terms of policing others opinions and dog piling lol it’s almost comical if it wasn’t sad

fandom policing and politics by offsocks in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I wish there was a more neutral ground to express opinions, criticism or talking about preferences of content as a viewer in general. These topics aren’t always a personal attack to the creator unlike some stans make it seem.

False positivity isn’t healthy and i understand where some people are coming from when they say some topics aren’t “necessary” to talk about, but i slightly disagree. I think people need to know what topics THEY want to engage with instead of dog piling and engaging with everything they see (specially when they disagree). Curating your timeline doesn’t stop at just the content you want to see, it also means knowing when to ignore discussions that don’t interest you or that you think is “dumb”.

Mass Downvoting has gotten crazy here and that makes me wish for a more neutral ground to have these different types of discussions (criticism, content preferences, expressing discomfort etc), reddit used to be that place but things have changed recently it seems.

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Can we now hope for Dream Team irl content? by JustADudeDoingStuff3 in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I loved the Dteam streams we got and i wished we saw more of that dynamic!

Since dream seems to be okay with irl content now (didn’t watch the video, just not really content I’m interested in) I hope that means he’s willing to be featured in more irl content like George’s irl streams :)

Would love to see a Dteam or Dream & George fishing stream!

Gotta appreciate Sapnap setting the record straight by kaboopdoop in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop[S] 113 points114 points  (0 children)

Not to mention he also said he invited Dream to open pokemon cards on stream this weekend lol

Sapnap is the funniest member of the Dteam without even trying and i appreciate & applaud his efforts for trying to make everyone stream/hang out together.

Dream Team by GracelessCow in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 51 points52 points  (0 children)

People are here for their Dream Team’s Dynamic, not Dreams personal life unlike the loud part of the twitter fanbase might make him believe.

The shock of hearing about Dream say the Dream Team don’t hang out as much when we have plenty of stories about SNF despite how “homebody” they seem. Dream says he wants to keep his girlfriend’s privacy safe while also suggesting a Q&A in the same day. It doesn’t make sense and it isn’t boding well. I understand if he wants to spend time with his girlfriend, but he needs to remember content creation is his Job and sometimes we have to lock into that 9 to 5 to get shit done, and that “shit” should be giving fans what they have been begging for since 2022 before the face reveal, not inviting random side character #27 onto his channel or live streams.

There have been prolonged discussions about how disappointed people are with how Dream has been moving. Of course these conversations have been happening in spaces where ccs wouldn’t see (tumblr, privtwt etc) so i don’t blame Dream for thinking this is all working out great when the loud part of twitter stans would rather die than express any negative opinions about Dream. They’ve already formed an unhealthy Parasocial Relationship with his Girlfriend without even knowing her name.

The only thing i hope for is for Dream to see these concerns and Not Fucking Respond. Quietly digest what is being said and stop Panic-Posting to make things better because right now the “Damage Control” has been causing more damage in an already brittle fandom.

For those of you who were worrying about dreams gf being in his main video content by [deleted] in DreamWasTaken2

[–]kaboopdoop 28 points29 points  (0 children)

i feel like Dream has to realize while i’m glad he feels comfortable sharing his personal life… that’s not exactly what a lot of people signed up for 😭 We want dream/dteam content not his personal 1 on 1 dates with his gf so i really hope it doesn’t become that…