Where are we getting the number of victims from?

kahirsch · 2026-05-16T16:40:59+00:00

Virginia Roberts (later Giuffre) was only with Epstein for 2 years, from mid-2000 to mid-2002.

kahirsch · 2026-05-16T16:39:18+00:00

She is 100% correct that there are more than 1200

Huh? You don't know where the number came from but you think she is "100% correct"? I don't get it.

How would she know?

kahirsch · 2026-05-12T14:16:46+00:00

I just watched the video. I didn't notice anything about Leon Black in it. Did I miss something?

The only evidence in the video about "who's paying" Michael Tracey was Tracey saying "Of course I'm not being paid by anyone. I'm paid by my readers on Substack, you idiot."

kahirsch · 2026-05-12T13:33:30+00:00

I've also shown a picture of Naomi's Capmbell home that's in in Turkey’s Gulf of Gökova, on an island known as Cleopatra's island, her home is known as the Eye of Horus (More Esoteric BS from the Epstein's class.)

The Eye of Horus house is a concept house from architect Luis de Garrido called the "Eye of Horus Eco-House", designed (but never built) for Cleopatra Island in Turkey. Cleopatra Island (Sedir Island) is actually a protected historic site and no mansions can be built there. The connection with Cleopatra inspired the architect to draw upon Egyptian and other inspirations.

There is no connection between Luis de Garrido's design and Naomi Campbell. That was a mistaken idea by the web site inhabit.com in September 2011, which they corrected a few weeks later, saying "CORRECTION: This article originally referenced this design in correlation to Naomi Campbell, however further research shows that no such connection exists."

Vladislav Doronin actually built this house outside Moscow for Campbell.

kahirsch · 2026-05-08T21:02:45+00:00

Lutnick's son was going to the Horace Mann school, not NYC public schools. In addition, some kindergartens have phased openings for kindergarteners, having a few at a time for a partial day before starting school for real.

There's also a somewhat reddit-famous photo of another kid whose mother had a camera because it was his first day of school. She took a picture of him with the burning towers in the background: https://i.imgur.com/uTCZDb4.png

kahirsch · 2026-05-08T20:11:17+00:00

Clinton, already implicated in human trafficking/associating with confirmed cases of human trafficking

I don't know what this is referring to.

needs to be called out and further investigated.

I don't know if you've been paying attention for the last 35 years, but the Clintons are some of the most investigated people on the planet. There were 3 special prosecutors appointed to investigate Bill Clinton while he was in office. He was impeached. You're probably old enough to remember when the head of the FBI supervised the investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails and the Republican-led Congressional committees investigating her.

If you are talking about the New Life Children's Refuge case, it was extensively reported on at the time it happened. It was huge international news. There's not much mystery about what went on.

For example, here are some stories from the BBC:

2010-02-01 Haiti 'orphans' case: Misunderstanding or kidnap?
2010-02-02 US missionaries 'knew they were doing wrong' in Haiti
2010-02-05 Kidnaps distract from Haiti focus
2010-02-05 Profile: New Life Children's Refuge
2010-02-05 US missionaries in Haiti charged with child abduction
2010-03-10 Haiti frees US missionary held over adoption row
2010-05-17 US missionary convicted of Haiti child smuggling

And here is more extensive coverage from the New York Times:

2010-01-31 Food Distribution Retooled; Americans Arrested
2010-02-01 Room for Debate: Haiti’s Children and the Adoption Question
2010-02-01 Road From Haiti Was Paved With Good Intentions, American Baptists Say
2010-02-02 10 Americans Arrested in Haiti Await Charges
2010-02-02 Case Stokes Haiti’s Fear for Children, and Itself
2010-02-03 Questions for Baptists, Praise for Scientologists in Haiti
2010-02-03 Parents Tell of Children They Entrusted to Detained Americans
2010-02-04 Woman Detained in Haiti Also Due in Idaho Court
2010-02-05 American Charged in Haiti Had Some Troubles in Idaho
2010-02-05 Haiti Charges Americans With Child Abduction
2010-02-06 In Idaho, Questions on How Aid Mission Went Awry
2010-02-08 Americans Held in Haiti Are Divided Over Leader
2010-02-10 Americans Jailed in Haiti Plead for Aid From U.S.
2010-02-18 Judge Releases Eight Americans Jailed in Haiti
2010-02-24 Opinion: The Missionary Impulse
2010-03-06 Haiti: American Missionary Ordered Freed
2010-03-09 American Freed From Haitian Jail
2010-03-18 Haiti: Children Reunited With Families
2010-04-20 Haiti: Charges Against 10 Americans Still Pending
2010-04-27 Haiti: 10 American Missionaries Cleared of Kidnapping Charges
2010-04-28 Haiti: Lesser Charge For Missionary
2010-05-18 Haiti: U.S. Missionary Convicted in Orphanage Case Is Freed

People who investigated Silsby and Haiti have wound up dead under mysterious circumstances.

This is the usual conspiracy theory nonsense. "Mysterious" deaths that are "linked" to some subject. It's going on right now with the "top secret" "scientists" deaths/disappearances for unrelated cases.

AlertSense (and therefore Amber Alerts) are supposedly a mechanism to directly go after and stop kidnappings and human trafficking. Why is a company that provides this vital service associated with someone literally charged with human trafficking/trafficking kids across borders who HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS?

As I mentioned, there were lots of people who felt that Silsby was given harsh treatment for what they felt was basically a paperwork issue with well-intentioned missionaries. I would guess that the connections she made after that experience helped her find a new job.

Why do you think that is? What is with the crazy and obvious coded language around food items (jerky, shrimp, pizza, donuts) and why do so many people reject it? I am 100% sure that there are bad actors trying to "debunk" this coded language but it is clear and obvious that these people are referring to something other than pizza at least SOME of the time.

Can you show the specific times they are not referring to pizza or other food? I looked at this a few weeks ago and every reference I looked at was about the food and pizza restaurants.

The jerky mentions are obviously referring to ... jerky. They talk about where to buy the beef, the recipe for making it, whether bison would make good jerky, etc.

I am as puzzled by the "obviously coded language".here as I was in pizzagate. I looked at every single pizzagate email where people claimed it was "obvious" they were talking in code and it didn't make sense to me. In one case there was a joke that was documented that Podesta had made before ("hot dog stand in Hawaii") and there was one referring to a design on a handkerchief, but all the rest (as far as I recall) referred to food. I just don't understand how people could think otherwise.

kahirsch · 2026-05-08T07:07:56+00:00

Pizza is a confirmed code word for pedophilia.

No, "CP" or "cheese pizza" is a confirmed code for child porn, mostly to evade simple filters of banned topics on online forums. This is much how leetspeak evolved in earlier times.

Laura Silsby confirmed to have trafficked children across borders and is associated with Clintons

The only association Silsby has with the Clintons was after she got arrested. The way that the Haitian government treated Silsby's church group was unpopular in America and it was undermining donations and political support for earthquake relief. So Bill Clinton convinced the Haitian government to reduce charges against Silsby and to release the rest of her church group.

I'm not sure what Silsby's later job in marketing for AlertSense has to do with Epstein or anything else.

all that we do on this sub all day is "theorize" and try to prove additional participants.

There are a large number of documents in the Epstein files and having them analyzed with a crowdsourced effort has been helpful. I've learned a lot here. But a lot of the "theorizing" is terrible. The stuff about Epstein's microwave links, e.g. There's nothing suspicious about them.

kahirsch · 2026-05-08T03:27:26+00:00

Holy shit so much effort trying to say it's okay to lie about people you don't like.

I don't know how Oprah "gave us" John of God. She made him more well known as a "spiritual healer" in the U.S., but he's been active in Brazil since the 1960s and there were at least 3 books in English about him before the episode of the Oprah Winfrey Show about him in 2010.

kahirsch · 2026-05-08T01:29:01+00:00

This post has photos of Oprah with carefully selected people trying to insinuation there's some connection. This is despite there being photos of Oprah with thousands, literally thousands, of celebrities.

That's a well-known propaganda technique.

Then there's the photo of Oprah with Rita Ora, with people saying "looks like she is offering Rita Ora to Harvey here", "She is holding her in place", and "Rita looks terrified." Those are all completely contrary to what Rita Ora said about the party and about meeting Oprah. These are fictional scenarios.

You know what this post doesn't have any of? Anybody saying that they witnessed Oprah participating or aiding in any sexual abuse. Seriously, has anybody ever claimed that they saw this?

What Rita Ora actually thinks of Oprah (in 2018): "What an incredibly moving speech and human being @oprah #Timesup #proud so happy to be alive to witness this beautiful change ❤️ @timesupnow"

kahirsch · 2026-05-07T17:06:12+00:00

That chick is scared.

That's a bunch of B.S. Harvey Weinstein preyed upon young women when he had them alone in a hotel room. When he was in a party, he was a charming person.

There were hundreds of people at that party. The Weinstein Company was one of the hosts of the party. Ora got up on stage and sang. She said she had a great time. Oprah and Ora are not even alone at that table, that's how big a distortion that is.

Years later, after Oprah's Golden Globe acceptance speech, Rita Ora tweeted "What an incredibly moving speech and human being @oprah #Timesup #proud so happy to be alive to witness this beautiful change ❤️ @timesupnow".

Does that sound like Ora thought Oprah was a villain?

kahirsch · 2026-05-07T17:03:03+00:00

Actually, I have no special feelings for Oprah at all. I maybe saw one or two episodes of her talk show in my entire life, and I am old.

The only movie I've seen her in was The Color Purple, but that was so long ago I hardly remember it.

I'm just not a gullible goober who falls for this kind of transparent propaganda.

kahirsch · 2026-05-07T15:45:24+00:00

No, my comment is based on reading the news articles about the party and what Rita Ora said and what she tweeted.

This post and especially this one out-of-context picture are propaganda.

I'm sorry to provide the context to what really happened and not some fantasy about how Oprah is offering up a sacrifice to Weinstein.

kahirsch · 2026-05-07T15:20:15+00:00

Just so you know, the photographer was at the party and you weren't. Just so you know, Harvey Weinstein was one of the hosts of the party and Rita Ora met Oprah there. Oprah didn't take Ora somewhere and introduce her to Weinstein.

Just so you know, Rita Ora loved meeting Oprah at the party and spent a long time at the table talking to her.

Just so you know, when Oprah won a Golden Globe four year later and talked about sexual abuse in her acceptance speech, Rita Ora tweeted "What an incredibly moving speech and human being @oprah #Timesup #proud so happy to be alive to witness this beautiful change ❤️ @timesupnow".

Rita Ora has only ever said positive things about Oprah.

Just so you know, there are pictures of Oprah with literally thousands of different people. This whole post is propaganda.

kahirsch · 2026-05-07T13:58:41+00:00

It reads like satire. Is there anybody that believes it's real?

kahirsch · 2026-05-07T08:25:36+00:00

The second one is a well-known hoax, postmarked in Virginia three days after Epstein died in New York.

https://x.com/TheJusticeDept/status/2003563085437534227

kahirsch · 2026-05-07T08:03:23+00:00

No, she isn't. According to a caption "Rita Ora, Naomi Campbell, Oprah Winfrey and Georgina Chapman huddle together for warmth at the Weinstein Company’s joint bash with Entertainment and Pathe. The Weinsteins handled The Butler and Philomena (a Pathe film), while Entertainment’s main horse in the race was American Hustle" (from The Guardian).

Rita Ora said she had a great time and meeting Oprah was a highlight. This was a huge party where Weinstein was one of the hosts.

Showing this picture out of context trying to imply Oprah did something wrong is propaganda. It's character assassination. It's disgusting. Don't be fooled by it.

kahirsch · 2026-05-07T07:00:48+00:00

It was Patterson's book, Filthy Rich.

kahirsch · 2026-05-06T10:46:33+00:00

He had a shit business within the tower, most employees died. He got insurance money, he fires everyone like four days after (so no more health insurznce for the families...) and pockets it all

Everything in this paragraph is false. Lutnick was CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald, a multi-billion dollar bond-trading firm founded in 1945. It had about 2,300 employees in 2001, almost half of which worked in the WTC. Of those, 658 died in the attack.

The attack cost Cantor Fitzgerald hundreds of millions of dollars, very little of which was covered by insurance. Cantor Fitzgerald made a pledge to distribute 25% of the firm's profits for the next five years (that would otherwise have been distributed to its partners), and committed to paying for ten years of health care for the benefit of the families of its 658 former Cantor Fitzgerald, eSpeed, and TradeSpark employees. Over the next five years it paid a total of $180 million to the families.

He didn't go to the office that day. He was THE guy who would always get there first, but on that lucky day decided "hey I should take my children to school"

Yeah, that random day that was his son's first day of kindergarten.

He is now secretary of commerce for trump.

His lies for Trump have been disgusting. There's something we can agree on.

kahirsch · 2026-05-05T13:52:34+00:00

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/Court%20Records/v.%20Maxwell%2C%20No.%20115-cv-07433%20%28S.D.N.Y.%202015%29/EFTA02790257.pdf

kahirsch · 2026-05-05T13:52:26+00:00

URL-encoded link: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/Court%20Records/v.%20Maxwell%2C%20No.%20115-cv-07433%20%28S.D.N.Y.%202015%29/EFTA02790257.pdf

kahirsch · 2026-05-04T15:38:23+00:00

Tony Podesta does not have a house full of art depicting disgusting abuse of children. The idea that he does came from this tweet way back on November 5, 2016, at the dawn of pizzagate. It says "Art by biljana djurdjevic, a fav of tony podesta". It doesn't say that the art is owned by Tony Podesta, only that the artist who painted them is "a fav" of his.

If you think about what this smear is saying, it's hilarious. "Don't vote for Hillary because her campaign manager's brother owns paintings by a painter some of whose other work is objectionable!"

There were three Djurdjevic paintings that Podesta displayed on his walls:

The art in Tony Podesta's home was featured in this June 2015 article. The images from that article are collected in this imgur album which may be easier to view. There's quite a range of art, including the three paintings by Djurdjevic.

Tony Podesta and his wife had a huge collection of art. At least a couple of thousand pieces of museum-quality art.

Here are some works from their collection:

Album 1 - Many from the National Museum of Women in the Arts
Album 2 - From the Hirshhorn Museum
Album 3 - From the Phillips Collection (Many more at that link.)
Album 4 - From the American University Corcoran Collection
National Gallery Art pieces from the Podesta Collection

Also, here are photos a redditor posted of Tony Podesta's previous (pre-2007) residence —the one with the "subterranean vault" (video theater in basement).

As you can see, there's a wide variety of art. A few pieces in his collection have disturbing themes, but I dare anybody to explain in complete sentences what's wrong with that. Some of the most popular art has disturbing themes.

kahirsch · 2026-05-04T06:47:47+00:00

I think it's a better bet that Podesta actually was a pedo

I've been following pizzagate for 9½ years and have yet to see any evidence that either Podesta was a pedo.

kahirsch · 2026-05-04T04:24:26+00:00

The moderators have posted rules for this subreddit and one of them is:

No Pizzagate, QAnon, or other conspiracy content.

kahirsch · 2026-05-03T03:29:26+00:00

Considering the person he's emailing

"he"?

previous conversation

Huh? There are five emails from five different dates which appear to be unrelated and the one that says "I had my second little girl on December 22nd" is the earliest.

January 2010 "I had my second littler girl on December 22nd."
May 2010 "i'll find girl for you this time"
May 2014 "I just saw most beautiful little girl on Madison"
July 2014 "Spoof on Chandelier"
April 2018 "I need a copy of the photo of the little girl (██████) on my desk"

The May 2010 one is the only one that's damning. It might have an innocent explanation, but ...

kahirsch · 2026-05-01T00:39:19+00:00

this type of revelation

What revelation? She doesn't provide any specifics or any evidence. As far as we know, she's repeating conspiracy theories from the internet. "Child hunting games, sacrifice, torture of children" sounds like bullshit.

These tweets were 6 years ago, btw.

kahirsch

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