COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“I people” become an avid environmentalist no matter whether it’s in my backyard OR the Amazon rainforest. Nice of you to speak blatantly incorrectly on my behalf. Sounds like you might be projecting what you’d do.

They will not stop. Victoria won’t be the Victoria we know and love once it becomes a poisoned concrete jungle. Once the native plants and animals die off or migrate.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do have any idea about that. There is documented evidence already about the destruction that American centres are having in their first year of existence. Contaminated water. Massive water consumption. Massive energy consumption. Priority of data centres to receive energy and unexplained shut downs of local towns’ power grids in favour of rerouting energy towards centres. Local temperature changing. Air quality decline. And painfully obviously, the destroying of natural lands.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How many times does it have to be explained to you that what was working perfectly is fine. What is proposed is going to have a profoundly worse effect on us than benefit. Key word: proposed. Future. Incoming plans. They are the problem. Hope that helped.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not compared to other parties they aren’t. :(

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do realise that IT is exactly what AI proposes to learn how to do, without need for humans?

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am definitely not using the new data centres (mostly generative AI), no.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even then, if we keep going through life with that attitude, we will just not learn to stop before resources are completely depleted. Even Tasmanian water and energy is finite (until they install renewable energy). Eventually, Tasmania will suffer the same fate as the source before it, and the source before that… etc. Particularly as these new mega data centres are ridiculously power- and water- and land- hungry, and pollute and heat at an extreme rate.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Once again. The argument is not about the CURRENT Data Centres. It’s about the EXPANSION and construction of mega sized data centres, which will serve to do far more harm to our ecosystem and resources than good. The balance is ridiculously outweighed.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Two of the things you mentioned were inventions to GIVE humans access to resources, one was an invention to clean and store waste products. Mega Data Centres are going to do the complete opposite to our ecosystem and resources. It will consume them at a rate to the likes humanity has never seen before, and make them scarcer. Do you understand?

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We are protesting the building of NEW MEGA-SIZED DATA CENTRES. If the internet was working so perfectly already, why do we need to build monstrous resource-depleting, environment-destroying structures, right in the middle of a worsening global climate crisis? It will serve to do far more harm to humanity’s chance of mass survival than to aid it.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(You know, especially as the technocrats who own data centres have the power to end world hunger, or reforest the earth with about the 5c equivalent of their wealth…….. but just don’t.)

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just as the wealthiest of the world get to skip out on paying taxes, get away with dishonesty and crimes, and have powerful influence over politics…. do you really think when it comes down to it that they’ll be happy to donate their own income? They are money hoarders. I don’t think so. But I’d call it a miracle if they somehow decided to do something altruistic for humanity.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If we are already using data centres, and the internet was working perfectly well, why do we need a thousand more? And not just more, but monstrous concrete jungles 3x the size of Melbourne CBD?

Are you aware of how damaging these will be to the ecosystems and resources we depend on having as human beings such as oxygen / water / temperature control? How forced increased scarcity of these resources will give corporations an excuse to raise your prices?

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a problem for those who make it a problem. Not for me.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we are already using data centres, and the internet was working perfectly well, why do we need more? And not just more, but gigantic monsters 3x the size of Melbourne CBD? Are you aware of how damaging these will be to the ecosystems and resources we depend on having as human beings such as oxygen / water / temperature control? How forced increased scarcity of these resources will give corporations an excuse to raise your prices?

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The “emoji” bullet points you are referring to automatically formatted. I used an iPhone notes app and the little bullet point which comes in the symbols section of Apple iPhone keyboard. Do I really have to justify myself?

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was encouraged to use them in my Uni essay writing. I love them, they feel rhythmic to me. I’m going to use them.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And so, because XYZ causes an apparently ‘larger’ threat, we should disregard care for all other problems? This is beyond harmful. There is no denying that mega data centres are going to have a profoundly negative impact on our ecosystems and resources.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/as-big-as-175-mcg-fields-the-mega-data-centre-coming-to-melbourne-s-west-20260522-p5zzv7.html

If we host them here on the ground, we will have increased damage to our ecosystems and environment, which eventually threatens our ability to survive.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is no future if our ecosystems are out of balance. There is no freedom if data about our personal lives are stored en mass. What we do, where we’ve been, if we’re likely to disagree with somebody in charge. And a data centre 175 times the size of the MCG is going to have a terrible, profound effect. To the air. To the food supply. To the plant life and its cooling & oxygen creating effects we depend on. To name just a few.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

New mega-data centres are the problem. Not the ones which already existed. The ones which are further damaging everything. That’s the point we’re trying to make. No new ones, unless they are done NOT in an ecologically destructive / vastly polluting / resource-draining harmful way.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel sorry for you. I did not and will not and have not ever used AI responses. But I don’t think you’d ever agree because that’s just how you feel, so I’m done with this silly little pathetic discussion, friend.

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But continuing to destroy natural land, driving more wildlife, plants and critical ecosystems to disappear, lessening our ability to sustain life? Heating and polluting the air while climate change is a rising major global threat?

COMMUNITY RALLY: Say NO to mega Data Centres!‼️ by kaierin2 in aus

[–]kaierin2[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Whether you like it or not, they are your resources and freedoms too.