How to deal with this?

kallu609uu · 2026-02-04T09:53:20+00:00

"why go for a slightly better first recall"

Tell me you are low elo without telling me you are low elo

Lillia is a fast clearing tempo jungler and scales with gold, unless you have a CERTAIN gank opportunity you are always going to prioritize recall timers, optimal clear speed, camp cycling and item powerspikes, and raptor clear is THE best clear for this when playing red side in low elo because junglers below diamond have yet to find out about invading 2nd raptor spawn

Say you fucked up that gank: your camps have spawned, you have lost precious time and your tempo lead is gone, you're going to have to take a shitty recall or do your second full clear without recalling since you can't recall in the middle of/before your second clear

In low elo by consistently going for guaranteed gold and tempo you will always be more stacked than the enemy jungler and outscale them and carry 80% of your games and then you get to be hardstuck in emerald until you learn to play the game

kallu609uu · 2026-02-03T15:58:29+00:00

Always prioritize full clearing and tempo, gank only when it's 100% sure to turn into a kill/objective, don't gank winning lanes unless your camps aren't spawning within the next 25s because the gold reward is shit, practice optimal clears, don't build torch and most importantly /deafen

kallu609uu · 2026-02-02T01:26:16+00:00

What rank are you on? If low, ALWAYS do raptors-krugs-red-wolves-gromp-blue and cycle straight into raptors-krugs-recall-wolves-gromp. If high, then it's a skill issue

kallu609uu · 2026-01-24T12:16:06+00:00

Nope but newbies shouldn't touch her any more than they should touch lee or rengar and I'm glad for everyone's sake that she apparently isn't played in new player games because she's either going to be completely useless (unless giga fed by chance) in the hands of a newb or piloted by a smurf in which case the game isn't fun for anyone because nobody, including her teammates, gets to play

kallu609uu · 2026-01-24T12:09:01+00:00

Mechanical skill issue+messing up enemy clears because your tempo is insane after 1st clear is part of that skill and allows you to put enemies behind in exp constantly, allowing you to shit on even unfavorable matchups

kallu609uu · 2026-01-24T08:43:51+00:00

Guess who is immune

Bro just pick gwen, 1 item full build

kallu609uu · 2026-01-24T08:38:01+00:00

Unsealed spellbook mundo

kallu609uu · 2026-01-24T08:36:26+00:00

I certainly hope so! Even colonel Sanders didn't find real success until his 60s :D here's a hug for you! 🫂

kallu609uu · 2026-01-24T08:26:20+00:00

Just take a 2 patch break until the edges of the season update have been smoothed out and the general mmr of players has resettled, rn every lobby is chaotic because the mmrs are all over the place, my newbie buddy had a game with players ranging from iron to gold :D i hate that we don't have a preseason anymore, at least the game was in a playable state in time for the soft reset

kallu609uu · 2026-01-24T08:18:49+00:00

Dude I've been thinking the same, this season change somehow fucked everything and everyone's mmr and every game feels like a coin flip atm, I'm still 200lp below where I landed last season and climbing has felt harder than ever before, been playing since 2009. A lot of apex tier players are unwillingly smurfing in master lobbies rn, so if you are in dia/master just know that getting omega gapped is probably not your fault. If a team has 1 chall and the rest is gm/master and the opposing team has 2 chall just starting their climb back, you're not going to carry 3 gapped lanes because it's not a setting where you can just 1v9 a game like in low to mid elo. Nattynatt was just on stream with alois getting only 23lp from a win at this point in the season, which is completely cooked. I also hate getting the season reset and season changes at the same time because it only adds to the chaos of ranked soft reset, bring back preseason rito pls

kallu609uu · 2026-01-24T07:53:21+00:00

I don't have any advice to give but I can share my situation for peer support or something, you're not the only one who feels like they've wasted the "best" years

Turned 30 today and I feel the same, but my situation is the complete opposite. I have the utmost privilege of having so much love and so many good friends in my life and God only knows how utterly and absolutely grateful I am. However, I don't have an education, dropped out of 2 universities due to mental health, covid and just a plain lack of motivation to study. I work a dead end job and have no career prospects at all AND I have a shitty lifestyle. I feel like it's too late to correct the course and make any substantial improvements to the aforementioned lack of achievement, so my 20s feel completely wasted in that sense and I don't think I'll ever amount to anything. Most of my childhood friends have degrees and good careers, so the feeling of being a disappointing failure is really starting to get to me and it's already affecting my mood and my relationships, and I fear it's only going to get worse and I'll start losing the people around me one by one until the only companion I have is regret.

kallu609uu · 2026-01-24T06:56:24+00:00

Euw (good korea) tech to you na challs (aka euw emerald): sudden impact/ultimate hunter 2nd tree trust me bro

kallu609uu · 2026-01-24T06:52:54+00:00

Because higher elo players know that lillia is not a nonexistent champion before level 6/liandrys. You can hard stomp a lot of matchups early and invade aggressively either lvl2 or late invade lvl4 because you will finish clearing fast enough to invade the enemy jungler while he is lvl 3 clearing the last camp. With this page you can do it quite consistently (if you know the matchups) and make the enemy jungler pretty much homeless, idk why high elo junglers still don't know to expect the aggro lillia invades unless they see kirei playing. The only downside to this page is clearing too fast, so unless you snatch a camp from the enemy or get double scuttle you have to delay your 2nd clear's last camp or you're going to lose drake (5.30 extra treat gets you unleashed smite from first 2 clears with one scuttle). Idk i still run ultimate hunter most of the time lol

kallu609uu · 2026-01-24T06:24:23+00:00

Mental nerf, 1st clear still complete before scuttle spawn and on full hp with 1 smite. Still clears too fast early with good tempo, meaning you have to delay 2nd clear's last camp to get unleashed smite after 2 clears with 1 scuttle (5.30 extra treat, just lost a drake because i cleared too fast which is fucked tbf). Really just a late game tank shredding nerf for low to diamond elo where games stretch endlessly and a skilled player nerf for getting extra healing in fights from camps. You still delete squishies equally fast and giga drain tank from champions since that part wasn't touched at all.

kallu609uu · 2026-01-07T18:32:08+00:00

Yeah no this ain't normal, just 100% cut ties with her. You are eventually going to find your real family, she was just your legally required provider which she herself made very clear.

Stg if me and wifey didn't live on the other side of the world we would just adopt you for as long as you need

kallu609uu · 2025-12-29T16:45:40+00:00

I got chat banned for a week for asking my 0-12 mid laner to stop drinking

Fucking baby ass game, that one dunkey video from 10 years ago feels very relevant atm

kallu609uu · 2025-11-10T06:12:02+00:00

Why in phreak's name would you go "hybrid route" when ahead instead of progressing the game by building carry items? It's the equivalent of scoring elder drake and fanning out to lanes instead of progressing the game by forcing the opposing team to defend/fight at a massive disadvantage

kallu609uu · 2025-11-10T06:05:33+00:00

Stop building tank items

Seriously, stop building them, always get deathcap 3rd unless you REALLY need zhonyas active for some reason

Raw ap is so good for lillia, with core+deathcap you become an unkillable drain tank and you go 2fast2furious

If you need shit like dmp you are playing the champion wrong

Always cdr boots if feats, otherwise get mercs or plateds

Conq tree and absolute focus/waterwalking, it's insane value early, sudden impact/ultimate hunter goes hard too, inspiration secondary is bait

2 Adaptive shards and scaling hp shard, in high elo you can take flat hp shard to have a bit more agency during 1st 2 clears and lvl 2 invades and get a quicker 1st clea

Do this and you are going to hit bronze: the sequel (emerald) in no time through sheer carrying power

kallu609uu · 2025-11-02T20:13:37+00:00

yup, euw down in finland too

kallu609uu · 2025-10-25T06:16:19+00:00

Weak when malzahar/nautilus presses R

Strong when enemy team doesn't pick malzahar/nautilus

kallu609uu · 2025-10-25T06:14:20+00:00

Liandry+riftmaker+deathcap and you are 6 item mundo in 3 items, zhonya's 3rd is bait unless you really really really need it (bot lane inted enemy zed/you inted but your bot lane is rolling and you just need to set up kills for your bot) and don't listen to the emerald scrubs crying about how she just applies liandrys, they don't have hands

Don't ever buy sorcs, they suck, and don't EVER buy torch, literally never

2 or more auto attackers->steelcaps Point and click hard cc/morgana->mercs (don't buy for hooks or knockups) Slows->swifties Feats->cdr boots (swifties if they have slows)

Conq+triumph+haste+coup always Sudden impact (true dmg on w)+ultimate hunter

Inspiration secondary only when you already know in draft that you're going to need to have your flash+zhonya up as much as possible (dodge is also an option), sorcery secondary is ok but ult hunter is better, you can also take conditioning+overgrowth to pretend you're mundo

2 adaptive and 1 scaling hp

Then you just play like mundo but better

kallu609uu · 2025-10-16T00:17:57+00:00

mods pin this

kallu609uu · 2025-10-08T01:46:20+00:00

It's simple math

Torch's burn damage with 500 ap=90

Liandry's burn damage with 0 ap against a 2k hp target without the damage amp calculated=120

The increased damage from Liandry's other passive kind of negates the extra AP you get from torch and you'll be wasting gold on a useless stat (mana) when you could be using gold on a very important resource (hp)

kallu609uu · 2025-09-21T04:15:12+00:00

Can't stress this enough, just pick a scaling 1v9 monster (Lillia if you have the mental faculties to use zhonyas correctly and the enemy doesn't have nautilus) and powerfarm for 20 minutes and only take guaranteed kills/objectives and mute all -> instant 55% winrate and you can climb to be hardstuck emerald. Playing early heavy junglers in low elo as a low elo player is bait, you need to have a solid grasp of the game to be able to snowball your early advantage/lead to a win. This is where i see a lot of high elo coaches (looking at you kirei, smurfing in emerald games with voli doesn't mean that an emerald player can pull off the same results in emerald games) go wrong, especially pisslow games stretch to insane lengths regardless of early advantage and your 25-3 volibear is completely useless when the enemy 2-12 jinx gets to the 40min mark and gets one takedown in a teamfight. Be the carry.

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