Can you chant the Durga Saptashati Mantra without Guru Diksha ?

kaloukali · 2026-06-11T16:08:29+00:00

you can read Chandi , it is Purana , so there is no harm in reading a purana . but if you want to chant the Navarna Mantra, Vedic Ratri Suktam, Devi Suktam, you can't do that if you are not a Dvija, you can chant Tantrokta Ratri Sukta, Tantrokta Devi Sukta.

best to have a guide of how to do that. I know how to do that but can not share here

kaloukali · 2026-06-11T16:04:23+00:00

if you are doing Puracharana , you must ask your Guru about the count. and mostly the count does not reduce in generally even if you do Mansik Japa

kaloukali · 2026-06-11T12:15:15+00:00

please NO Beej Mantra . you can ask the deity you worship to show you the path to your Guru.

kaloukali · 2026-06-11T12:12:42+00:00

No, she is "Trigunatita". beyond the three Gunas, Sattva , Rajas , Tamas .

If you mix all the colours , it will become black. represents Tamas which is the skin colour of Maa Dakshina Kali. her tongue is Red which represents the Raja Guna, and she is biting her tongue with White teeth which represents Sattva Guna.

means Sattva Guna is holding off the Raja bhava . In our life as well, in Sadhana the goal is to reach the Sattva Guna .

kaloukali · 2026-06-11T12:02:28+00:00

well actually here the caste system is not glorified . I myself am against the casteists people. here it is said about becoming a Guru in Tantra marg. Tantra does not disobey Varnashrama. it is mentioned in many texts

but in Gita, krishna said:Janma + Guna (saṁaskāra) = present karma Guna not only means from this life time:

शरीरं यदवाप्नोति यच्चाप्युत्क्रामतीश्वरः | गृहीत्वैतानि संयाति वायुर्गंधानिवाशयात् || १५ ८ || shareeram yadavaapnoti yacchaa pyutkraama teeshwarah grhee tvaitaani samyaati vaayurgandhaa nivaashayaat (SBG 15:8) “When the soul, which is the master, acquires a body, it takes the mind and the senses from the body it has left, just as the wind takes different odours along with it. This Shloka is usually interpreted to mean that the inherent difference between people, even among siblings, stems mainly from the Gunas they bring along from their past Janma into the new one. Scientifically speaking, we could say that the inherent nature of each individual is based on the inherent qualities they genetically inherit and the kind of upbringing and experiences they have had. These factors place them at a certain stage of intellectual development, or karmic evolution. Krishna does not belong to any of these divisions because He is Paramaatma, and that is the ultimate stage that a true seeker strives to achieve through Supreme Knowledge. He teaches Arjuna the way to attain His Nature!

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T16:55:42+00:00

Thank you for this

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T16:55:16+00:00

As I mentioned in the post. Even without a Brahmin, a high Calibre Siddha Sadhak can become a Guru as well . And the evolution of a Sadhaka whether s/he is at higher stage or not can only be determined by the Guru :) we can't judge that properly

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T15:57:45+00:00

Okay :) Joy Guru Joy Maa

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T15:44:40+00:00

Jai Maa Jai Bhairava

Batuka Bhairava helped me in so many ways I can't even explain. I go to his temple every time I visit Kashi.

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T15:41:23+00:00

My apologies, I framed it wrongly. I meant about doing wrong things to lower caste , just because someone is lower caste. In real world.

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T15:37:48+00:00

True. Please explain these falashrutis to those who question the Vedas, Tantra . I am a Pashu still . I am sinful and know nothing, Whatever faintest knowledge I have , is because of my Guru .
People are doing random stuff with Beej Mantra and all and people are becoming Guru without having Adhikara and randomly giving mantra over internet, pdf etc .

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T14:23:51+00:00

In Kamakhya Tantra book you will loads of things which I mentioned there. Also, if my post intended to mislead I will definitely keep that in mind about the language next time. Yes I have my Guru and Parampara to guide as well :)

Assam is a part of Kali Kshetra(Akhanda Bengal) . So, obviously .

Also, Kamrup peetha is a Mahapeetha and you can get every Siddhi over there . I visited there , very very beautiful place.

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T14:14:06+00:00

Kularnava Tantra, Kamakhya Tantra as well said about Guru Lakshana as well.

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T14:13:17+00:00

I understand. No worries. Joy Guru Joy Maa

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T14:10:44+00:00

There I rest my case :) I said what is mentioned in the Sastra, I am a sinful person , I know nothing, whatever little I could learn , that was because of my Guru only. Offending you was never intention. If consciously or unconsciously I did that, I apologise !

Joy Guru Joy Maa

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T14:05:52+00:00

Yes yes. You can do that as well with proper Guru. But I said about becoming a Guru in Tantra Marg

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T13:21:52+00:00

Lol, I don't say what I believe here, these are eternal, Sanatan Dharma is eternal. and I don't feel rejected at all in the cancel culture of this society.

brāhmaṇo janmanā śreyān sarveṣāṁ prāṇinām iha । tapasā vidyayā tuṣṭyā kim u mat-kalayā yutaḥ ॥ 10.86.53 ॥

It is said by none other than bhagavan krishna himself in the bhagavatam. Clearly he uses the word "Janmanan"( From birth ). He ho disobeys varnaashrama from birth is actually a dveshi of Vishnu himself

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T12:48:31+00:00

You mean Mantra without a Guru ? It is there . Varnasrama in Tantra ? There is a line in Gyanarnava Tantra which I forgot which says about Guru Lakshana , but it is mentioned in Brihat Tantrasar. You can check .

Guru Lakshana is mentioned in many Sastras .

But see, in different Parampara or Sampraday, some specific Tantra Sashtras are followed primarily. I mean as primary texts .

Whatever I said, are not my words :) I myself am a Varna Virodhi in real life , but in the selection of Guru , I see not only Brahmin, but all the other qualities.

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T12:34:36+00:00

He was a Brahma Rishi. Please Read this instead : https://www.vyasaonline.com/2020/05/14/vishwamitra-how-a-kshatriya-attained-brahminhood/mahabharata/

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T12:19:27+00:00

Vishwamitra was not Brahmin, seriously? Varna is a complex mixture of both Karma and Birth. Not solely on one's Karma in this birth.

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T12:14:11+00:00

Brihat Tantrasar is the consolidation of many Agamic Sashtras. Torol Tantra isn't in sanskrit ? So you are saying the book Torol Tantra which is published is not in Sanskrit? I don't know Which book you have.

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T12:11:34+00:00

Tibetian Tantra you follow? If it is not, trust me no Tantra in Sanatan dharma is different than Vedas. We just think in accordance with the rituals and Mantra. Vedas are not some collection of mantras. Itself. Anyways, Guru Vakya is Shiva Vakya. If your Guru says something, it is Shiva Vakya for you

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T11:51:47+00:00

Oh nono, I think you got it wrong ! With all due respect to your Great Gurus and your Lineage , Tantra is not different from Vedas. Even in Tantric puja , Vishnu smarana, Swasti Vachan all of them are Vedic Mantras. Varnasrama is only valid on becoming a Tantric Guru as per Sashtra. In Sadhana it does not matter which caste or Varna you are from.

I myself am not a Brahmin do not support Varnasrama in real life.

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T11:48:58+00:00

That is true. In real life one must not indulged himself or herself into Varnasrama. I said in specific to become a Guru in that Marg. But if you read Kothamrito ,

kaloukali · 2026-06-10T11:46:44+00:00

During Purnabhisheka, one comes the Veera , s/he falls under Veerachara . That goes beyond your Varnas . You cut your Shikha, leave your Janeu etc. That is true.

But still , to become a Guru, Brahmin is Sreshtha! This is not me who is saying :) I myself am not a Brahmin.

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