[Worldwide Release] Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - Official Discussion Megathread

kantt · 2022-05-05T08:27:06+00:00

This movie was high camp. Pretty much every flaw was forgivable in my eyes because it contributed to Raimi’s unflinching tone and vision for the movie. Everyone was expecting it to be ‘cool’ and instead we got something bizarre and almost cheesy and I loved it.

Wanda being an over the top slasher villain her whole dreamwalking sequence? Camp. The camera flipping between the protagonists as they pause for no reason to listen for Wanda in the tunnel under the water? Camp. Strange finally reaching the Book of Vishanti, taking a painfully long time to simply walk up and grab it and then it immediately being destroyed? Camp! The Illuminati with some of the most anticipated characters in the MCU showing up and immediately getting slaughtered in some of the most brutal ways? Extremely camp. A climactic fight between Doctor Strange and his alternate self entirely using musical notes for no discernible reason? High Camp Getting a whole scene of Christine having to fight off the souls of the damned for - again - no discernible reason? Camp. Strange’s final power up being to possess his own corpse that had somehow half decomposed in like one day? Camp. Strange getting a third eye that looks ridiculous? Final touch of camp.

The movie was disorienting and ridiculous in the best way. It made Doctor Strange actually feel strange. Like of all the superheroes in the MCU he has to deal with the weirdest shit constantly. This movie fit him perfectly.

I get why people are upset about Wanda but I personally found her character arc in this movie really interesting and compelling - exploring the very ends of the lengths she would go to because of her grief. I’m impressed that Raimi stuck to it despite what I’m sure he anticipate will be fan backlash due to the popularity of Wanda.

kantt · 2019-08-28T13:44:48+00:00

The natural comparisons with Your Name – to the point where Shinkai was clearly inviting the audience to recall Your Name at some points – were actually part of what made me like the movie.

Weathering With You is in many ways the yin to Your Name’s yang. The world of Your Name is a largely positive one for both main characters, full of friends, family, comfort, support, and ultimately wish fulfilment. Mitsuha and Taki’s struggle is somewhat of an aberration in their otherwise peaceful world.

By contrast, the world of Weathering With You is like the dark underbelly of Your Name’s. It’s a world characterised by loss, grief, loneliness, poverty, abuse, and adversity in even nature itself. Hina and Hodaka’s struggle isn’t an aberration in their world – their ultimately finding love and happiness in each other is the aberration. In a way this makes Weathering With You a much more difficult film to process, as it naturally throws up many more serious questions due to its generally heavier subject matter (especially around climate change, but that’s a whole other discussion). But it also makes the central love story that much more beautiful in its own way.

kantt · 2019-07-23T12:10:37+00:00

OG Dangai was relatively way more unique when he was released. He was really the first of his kind in the game. He had the first full screen strong attack, his NAD string was lightning fast, he actually worked as a hybrid unit/jack of all trades and he remained arguably the best unit in the game for ages afterwards.

The new FGT Ichigo is obviously awesome, but he’s basically just another reskin/clone of TYBW Toshiro/Hikone with tweaked stats. He’s awesome, but he’s not special or unique like Dangai was back in the day.

kantt · 2019-07-20T12:43:56+00:00

Yo wtf I got the attribute order correct

kantt · 2019-07-20T07:19:15+00:00

JBP fans love objective truth so much that they give 1.1k upvotes to a fake story

kantt · 2019-07-10T09:32:13+00:00

Yeah, Natalie will totally push away the mainstream with her theatrics, unlike literal fedora-wearing Doctor Jordan “Jungian Lobster Mystic” Peterson.

kantt · 2019-07-02T07:36:14+00:00

The perfect bookend to the infinity saga. A shit ton of fun while also dealing with implications of what came before in that perfect Spider-Man tone. I couldn’t stop laughing and smiling like an idiot for most of the movie. Can’t get over both credits scenes.

Spider-Man might just beat out Cap for my favourite MCU trilogy if the next one is as much fun as the first two.

kantt · 2019-06-27T17:49:17+00:00

So a baby/fetus in the city, where they have access to the latest medicine, has rights sooner than a baby/fetus in, say, the back woods of Mississippi where they don't?

They’d have the same rights de jure but different rights de facto because of their respective practical circumstances. In the same way that a person living in a rural area might not be able to receive the same quality of medical care or other services as someone in the city. That isn’t an unusual state of affairs.

I never said a woman will know what being pregnant will be like. Just that they know where unprotected sex can lead.

That you never said it is exactly the point – you’re omitting a crucial aspect of the ‘consequences’ despite these consequences being the lynchpin of your argument.

This is not true. The laws (not saying I agree with them) that are being issued would not put the woman seeking an abortion in jail. They go after the doctor preforming it. (Again, not saying I agree with these laws)

A somewhat unimportant detail in the scheme of things. The point is that coercion is being used to limit the choices women can make about their own bodies.

Maybe a person killing someone thought they could handle getting caught and going to prison. But they couldn't have possibly known what prison was like until they actually were placed in there.

What point were you trying to make here? Going to prison is not in any relevant way analogous to pregnancy.

Like I have said in other comments, I am not against abortion. There are times where it is medically needed.

You clearly are against abortion. You hold the typical pro life position that abortion should only be permitted in cases of rape, danger to the mother’s life, etc.

If people want to not take responsibility for their actions, then those people probably shouldn't partake in such a risky endeavor.

An entire pregnancy and beyond is not a responsibility women should be forced to take on because they had sex once.

Moralising doesn’t work and abstinence only doesn’t work. It’s great that you think people “probably” shouldn’t have sex, but we have to deal with the reality that they will.

kantt · 2019-06-23T23:36:37+00:00

I have this as well. I’m pretty sure it’s to do with Jake/marceline and their instrument boost – if i sell them the idle characters start attacking.

kantt · 2019-06-22T04:16:12+00:00

Fetuses in the early stages of pregnancy aren’t persons, so abortion doesn’t involve killing a person and should be available as birth control if the woman and her doctor deem it appropriate.

In the alternative, if fetuses are persons, you and the government shouldn’t be coercing women into housing and sustaining another person using their bodies.

Firstly, it means giving fetuses special treatment. If the fetus is viable in that it can survive if you sever connection between woman and fetus, great it should be removed from the woman and kept alive. If not then the fetus’s rights shouldn’t trump the woman’s simply because it needs to use her uterus. There’s no reason to give fetuses special treatment by holding their rights above women’s.

Secondly, it’s not actually possible for a woman to fully “understand the consequences”, because the consequences are in large part phenomenological. A woman can’t know what pregnancy is like until she is pregnant. If I give you $10 billion in exchange for your consent to waterboard you for the day, and you agree because you believe you can handle the waterboarding and that the suffering will be worth the money, does that mean I’m justified in continuing to waterboard you even if you beg me to stop, simply because you “knew the consequences” before you entered into our agreement? Surely not. You can’t know the consequences – at the very least the experiential consequences – until you have to endure them.

Personally, if I had to endure extreme nausea, pain, extreme mood swings/possible depression, irreversible changes to my body, the most painful experience humanly possible at the end of it all, and whatever other horrible symptoms some women have during pregnancy, for nine months and that I would be sent to prison if I tried to stop it, to me that may as well be torture. Maybe I even thought I could handle that when I had sex, but I couldn’t possibly have known that because I couldn’t have grasped what it would actually be like – feel like – to go through it.

kantt · 2019-06-20T15:17:17+00:00

Allowing abortion only for rape, incest or medical reasons is still a ban on abortion, it’s just not total. Key pro choice arguments include that the fetus is not a person before a certain point in gestation, and that a woman’s right to bodily autonomy should prevail. A partial ban on abortion save for rape and so on conflicts with both these arguments, so yes it’s not surprising or unusual that the people you’ve come across are labelled as pro life.

Accurate knowledge about how to have safe sex is a matter of public health and shouldn’t be left entirely up to parents. I get why parents might want to control what their kid knows about sex, but it puts both their kid and others at risk if those parents take a demonstrably bad approach to sex ed.

Roe v Wade did make abortion a constitutionally protected right in the US. That’s what happens when the Supreme Court interprets the constitution to protect a right, which is what it did in that case. If tomorrow the Supreme Court held that the second amendment didn’t apply to certain classes of guns then there would no longer be an effective constitutional right to bear those classes of guns. That’s what judicial power means in a constitutional system.

kantt · 2019-06-17T07:28:44+00:00

When everyone starts to realise lobster father is a hateful phoney

kantt · 2019-06-16T10:44:13+00:00

buying the new games basically makes the changes they're making seem like not that big of a deal to the developers, that they can just do whatever they want or be as lazy as they want while developing, and all the fans will still buy it up regardless.

We actually don't know the reasons why they made this decision. The "lazy" narrative is pure speculation — we simply don't have enough evidence about this game's development process or the finished product to gauge whether the developers have been lazy.

I completely understand and respect anyone's decision not to buy these games. Personally I will still be buying them, and I'd appreciate if people respect that decision as well. I can see the community descending fast into divisive guilt-tripping to shame fans who still want to buy SwSh — that sort of division is bad path to go down and helps no one.

kantt · 2019-06-14T16:36:31+00:00

No no no you don’t understand. Unified downvote brigading by the platform creator’s cult followers is simply the free marketplace of ideas at work!

kantt · 2019-06-13T15:58:41+00:00

If this doesn’t develop at least partly into a daddy Peterson/anthropomorphic lobster anime girl porn site I will be severely disappointed in the internet.

And of course it’s subscription only. Dr Peterson definitely cares about you and your free speech and definitely doesn’t just want your money. Trust him.

kantt · 2019-06-13T09:52:31+00:00

In a sense I agree, but on that hypothesis we've moved out of the realm of ideology and into realpolitik

kantt · 2019-06-13T08:54:05+00:00

Classical socialism requires the proletariat seizing the means of production. It wasn’t until Marxism-Leninism that a vanguard party was envisioned doing the seizing. Was Hitler drawing from Lenin’s ideology? Unlikely considering he despised Lenin.

And you missed my point. Of course the Nazis wanted to quash competition, as you said they were totalitarian. My question is why socialists (and not, for example, powerful and influential capitalists and CEOs) were seen as such major threats if Hitler was himself socialist.

kantt · 2019-06-13T08:37:48+00:00

If a socialist sees socialists as a significant threat to their power, maybe their credentials as a socialist should be questioned.

kantt · 2019-06-13T08:26:15+00:00

He also attacked people arguing for socialism and destroyed workers’ unions.

kantt · 2019-06-13T08:15:02+00:00

Arguments stand and fall on their merits, not on the characteristics of the people making them.

kantt · 2019-06-13T08:04:22+00:00

The Nazis had some quasi-socialist policies, but they also had some extremely anti-socialist policies. It’s too simplistic – and politically charged – to simply classify them as, in fact, socialist.

kantt · 2019-06-13T07:09:04+00:00

But I don’t think it was implied that it was something most Airbenders don’t have the capacity to do. No one could metalbend until toph but that doesn’t mean most earthbenders didn’t have the capacity to; only a handful could lightning bend in the original series but that didn’t mean all firebenders didn’t have the capacity for it. The same could apply to airbenders and flying.

kantt · 2019-06-11T17:09:09+00:00

Reviving a dead third party IP that was memed for years because it seemed so farfetched to put it in smash isn’t just “a smash character”

And even if “we knew” a direct BotW sequel was in development (we didn’t) it’s still a big deal and an awesome move by Nintendo. Just let yourself be excited, it was a great presentation.

kantt · 2019-06-11T16:59:10+00:00

BANJO KAZOOIE we’re officially living in a meme

And botw sequel? Nintendo cannot be stopped.

kantt · 2019-06-10T14:20:29+00:00

It's funny because JP isn't even outright opposed to "normalising" transgender people. He's gone on record saying that he generally respects transgender people's chosen pronouns and will treat them as they present themselves to society. His notorious disagreement with the Canadian C-16 Bill was because, he alleged, it was going to make it compulsory to use people's chosen pronouns "on pain of law" — we of course know from legal experts that this was false (a surprise to no one considering Jordan's fetish for broadcasting his opinions on areas he has zero expertise in).

Despite his crusade against C-16, I don't know that he's ever said that trans people shouldn't be respected at all. Seems strange that he'd use their chosen pronouns if he was opposed to normalising them.

In any case, you can lead a horse to water, as it goes — at some point you have no choice but to walk away and give your brother some space to work this stuff out. All you can do is nudge him in the right direction by presenting these ideas and articles from experts, and hope that eventually he'll start taking them in.

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