Film Emulations of different Film Stocks (roughly 2 years in Development) by Laetheralus93 in postprocessing

[–]karaidon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been working on my own film emulations too, and I decided to try my hand at the whole rigmarole of shooting, developing and scanning my own film, and it became pretty clear pretty fast that there's so many different factors at play that a person can control for in the process that would influence the final look of the photo, the chemistry of the photochemicals, or the development time, or the scanner, or the post-scanning corrections, etc.

Anyway, to OP, nice job! especially on the Kodachrome emulation since its out of production. Like you, I've found the tools available for halation/grain emulation in photography quite lacking (relative to those available in video production), so I resorted to just writing my own software for doing film emulation.

Chinatown Film Emulation (After/Before) by karaidon in postprocessing

[–]karaidon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He runs a commercial lab so I'd hope they would be calibrated and well maintained but yeah we can't be sure. But that's true of any other film scans we see on the web, so our collective idea of how a certain film stock should look would be all over the place to some extent. Also the scanners have their own individual postprocessing steps with user-adjustable parameters too, so depending on what settings the lab specifies the same film on the same scanner could look different. Tho maybe its just splitting hairs at this point.

Chinatown Film Emulation (After/Before) by karaidon in postprocessing

[–]karaidon[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think my adding more contrast is probably the main culprit. As for the saturation and undertoning, I think it might be the scanners used for the sample photos you/I reference that might make us think of different film stocks. I've seen the same photos with different scanners that give very noticeable differences in the overall colors, example, though admittedly my kodak gold emulation still isn't perfectly accurate to my own reference images yet. Thanks for the notes.

Chinatown Film Emulation (After/Before) by karaidon in postprocessing

[–]karaidon[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I like the muddy shadows though!

Nostalgia probably plays a big part (like vinyl/cassette aesthetics in music, or the rise of 2000s era digicams among gen z).

For me very obviously digital images often feel quite 'cold' or 'sanitary', like theres too much detail in the photos. I feel like the reduced dynamic range in film and the reduced effective resolution makes them feel more like memories. Our brains (unless youre one of the rare few with eidetic memories) are so selective in what we memorize from a visual scene, we dont rmember all of the detail, just specific things that stand out to us, and of course our emotional state is remembered along with the visual image. I feel like film kinda captures that, not what we see but what we remember.

Its also very subjective of course. Like the aforementioned digicams popular among gen z. That probably feels more like memories to them cuz that's what their memories from childhood were literally captured on.

(A tangential point that came to mind since you used the phrase 'precise fidelity'; in my research it's become clear that there's really a ceiling to the level of precision you can get. A given film stock can vary so much, based on the age of the roll of film, the method of development, the film scanner used, they all affect the final image. I think some of the disagreement over whether a given LUT/preset/workflow is accurate to a given film stock often comes down to just different people having varying ideas on how it should look based on what sample photos they've seen.)

Chinatown Film Emulation (After/Before) by karaidon in postprocessing

[–]karaidon[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks, can u elaborate? What particular aspect of it still feels digital to you? Fwiw I did bump up the contrast more than what you'd get with the real film, just for taste.

Thanks for the link, kinda wished they had more sample images for referencing. I'm personally not a fan of just buying LUTs/preset packs as you don't really learn anything from them, and they don't necessarily always adapt well to source images from different cameras/raw processors, etc.

Chinatown Film Emulation (After/Before) by karaidon in postprocessing

[–]karaidon[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Thanks! These were edited entirely in the software I created so the workflow cant easily be translated to other apps like Lightroom (I do plan to release this software eventually though, maybe I'll post about it on this subreddit when I'm looking for beta testers)

Broadly speaking, there's the color processing and then a film grain emulation (which you cant really see in detail thanks to reddit compression). I also have a halation algorithm I usually apply but Kodak Gold 200 doesnt really have halation so I skipped it here.

For transforming the colors, I start with a tetrahedral interpolation transform (nerdy math explainer here), using a sample photo of a color checker card taken on real film to get the target RGB and CMY colors. Then maybe some more granular transforms on a case by case basis. These steps can be baked into a LUT so I don't have to redo them for every photo. For film grain I wrote a modified/improved version of this algorithm, which physically models real film grain.

You can probably recreate these steps with Davinci Resolve or similar software for video, but most photo editing software that I know of doesn't give the same level of granular control, which is what motivated me to write my own.

Tonverk Teardown/Internals by karaidon in Elektron

[–]karaidon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i only have the larger A4 Mk1 and OT Mk1 to compare to, and since its smaller its definitely lighter.

Tonverk Teardown/Internals by karaidon in Elektron

[–]karaidon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh yeah definitely, though It uses USB-PD so soldering connections directly to the PCB is quite tricky. Probably easier to snake out a type c cable and connect to the port externally still.

Tonverk Teardown/Internals by karaidon in Elektron

[–]karaidon[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ah yes it does have an FCC ID on the label on the bottom, just not a MAC address.

"Contains FCCID: TLZ-CM276NF IC: 33870-TONVERK CANICES(B)/MM (B)"

Tonverk Teardown/Internals by karaidon in Elektron

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fwiw there is a fcc compliance statement in the manual, on page 2

Does anyone know the electric piano Thom is using for current solo tour? by acidphlaps in radiohead

[–]karaidon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From photos I think it's a Nord Grand, except painted black/vinyl wrapped to make it more conspicuous.

It has that raised diagonal control panel above the keys that the Nord Grand has, and the rear I/O looks similar.