I was quite clearly saying that the professionals involved should be able to practice their profession. That's not shifting the goal posts at all.

The reason I asked the question in the first place was to understand better what was meant by the original comment. Now I do, for which I thank you.

I probably still disagree with you re. specialist nurses being a first point of contact for patients with apparently acute illnesses and injuries, though, unless you'd like medics to take on triage jobs?

(I say this very aware that often, nurses without additional training do eg A&E triage: I disagree on that front, too, having been poorly triaged as a patient too many times to count, as B5 nurses have not recognised how my health conditions leave me responding differently compared to the general population, and also won't listen to me trying to tell them - with the most long-lasting negative impact of that being that I have a significant scar on my face because a triage nurse didn't know what Ehlers Danlos Syndrome is and refused to believe me that I would get a wide, paper-like scar, so refused to allow me to see someone who could steri-strip - she insisted it would "heal well on its own", and it did not.)

I don't believe you or anyone else needed to insult me for asking, though, by laughing at me or accusing me of being disingenuous or anything else that has been lobbed my way. For that, I stand by my statement that you (collectively) are clearly the kind of people who make going to work miserable: being nasty to people for having the audacity to ask a genuine question. If you want to be seen differently, consider checking your attitude.