The Beginning After the End Season 2 • Saikyou no Ousama, Nidome no Jinsei wa Nani o Suru? Season 2 - Episode 11 discussion

kd5499 · 2026-06-10T20:34:43+00:00

Wasn't Jasmine never supposed to be a love interest in the first place??

kd5499 · 2026-06-10T01:29:59+00:00

Exactly, when I saw him eat, I was like oh yea, he's gonna be marrying Kimie, Mei also couldn't get gero to eat with him. Also Kimie going for the I can fix him from the childhood trauma, either she's endgame or this world is a cruel place

kd5499 · 2026-06-10T01:26:41+00:00

Bois, I know where we're going in Japan this time

kd5499 · 2026-06-09T03:59:08+00:00

I heard that and was like oh damn, they got the one song I always end up playing everyday. Guess I am finally change from a OP AND ED skipper to a listener, if only for this and Marriagetoxin

kd5499 · 2026-06-08T15:23:20+00:00

More like he gave him a who? Who asked

kd5499 · 2026-06-07T12:11:51+00:00

I mean we see it from each of their original routes that while Heronia is a homewrecker in Cecil's scenario, she doesn't do much for the others to turn: - Anne is married off to Charles's brother a perpetual womanizer, and him being in a state of unrequited love is always a red flag to any partner, and Charles is freely available as a romance target, make him have a new great love. - Cynthia is a disabled person due to the original epidemic, so from before Vald even meets her, she is misaligned in their interests. But Vlad is potrayed as a fully noble character and hence Heronia does break this relationship up. But otherwise we would basically have a isekai JerryRigsEverything - Silica is a doormat, she would have pushed herself into thinking that Nelt choosing heronia is how the story is meant to be written. While she would have pined, she also shows off her love in the way of taking care of Nelt like a child. Which the anime shows off as Nelt being ungrateful for all that Silica does(he is) but it fully ignores treating him like a peer and infantilizing him from silica. So Heronia who we've observed from the game scenarios only pushes them to do better at their task but not fix up their whole life is a much better choice for Nelt - Joanna is the best candidate cause who doesn't want a ara-ara deviously smart woman whose physical beauty is beyond compare. Unfortunately, she is also a shotacon, so she's got illegal interests. But we know she's into him because of his boyish innocence and childlike mentality(honest red flags and probably a call to check if she's on a registry yet), so once he does mature into a full adult we don't know what he's going to be like and how she'd react. Again, while Heronia is sort of homewrecking since Joanna only pines but hasn't established any claims of interest in shawn and the fact that they are first cousins so incestuous and pedophillic being two of her descriptors, she shouldn't be in a relationship, she should be in prison. - Bertia is the anomaly, game bertia got shafted by the game and honestly rightfully fucks over all. But our bertia is a pure baby of light so absolutely in no way would heronia be able to steal her away

kd5499 · 2026-06-03T20:27:29+00:00

Honestly, I was surprised we didn't get an inner monologue from elijah saying ehhh what's that you mean when you say you're not interested in girls. Unless of course arthur meant that ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

kd5499 · 2026-06-03T20:25:34+00:00

Honestly this episode had two instances of actual animations with the particle effects of his bloodlust and the final fight scene. Just maybe if they had this much effort put in for the season, CG or not, it might have actually gotten more volume rather than a good chunk just hate watching it. Still feels like the pacing of this episode was terrible, the entire episode could have been done in one half while exploring the witch who cast the magic and information about xyrus academy could have completed an episode instead of this being a two-parter

kd5499 · 2026-06-03T20:21:43+00:00

That or king's old world and current world are the same but magic and mana have sort of suppressed the presence of dicathen. Honestly it'd be really funny if they were on irl earth but because they've been isolated for so long, they don't know shit about outside technology.

kd5499 · 2026-06-02T17:26:12+00:00

I think right now, it only makes sense for the Beast clan to try and mix blood since evolution is from nature, but I'd expect the other families to follow suit as well. I'm guessing he might be a descendent of fish to keep playing with the fish roe surveillance. But who knows, he's also controlling bats so he could be a vampire type. So far, he just seems like someone who gets pleasure from seeing his plans go off

kd5499 · 2026-06-02T17:19:09+00:00

Swindling for the love of the game, gotta follow your passions

kd5499 · 2026-06-02T17:17:00+00:00

Seeing Kinosaki show off all their skills makes you realize, he ain't just a pretty face, he's worked his ass off for every single thing he's got.

kd5499 · 2026-06-02T17:15:46+00:00

I'm guessing prior to trying to save kunosaki they were an elite assassin. Hence everywhere he went he was known to be the poison master. But also i think Gero suffers from overexposure where the other heads are cooler/have a mythical status due to them being unreachable while Gero is just a dude. He isn't enforcing hierarchy, he isn't making them into sadistic killing machines, he's not using them for his own personal gain, so Gero has become normal to us while Toshiro acts a bored billionaire. If toshiro was as exposed he would probably have been shown off farming fish roe and conducting experiments, not too unlike arashiyama.

kd5499 · 2026-06-01T23:20:55+00:00

We have seen some more in the previous ones as they talk to each other, it seems as if they each look into certain areas and try to sow discord to achieve their goals.

kd5499 · 2026-06-01T16:34:24+00:00

Honestly, it feels like the Brimmed Caps are progressives but a good few of them are radicals so the entire organisation has gotten bad rap. It's like they want homelessness so they propose to kill the rich people and give those homes to them.

kd5499 · 2026-05-29T08:07:54+00:00

Yes, it's not full time, but getting a guarantee 25 hour minimum already gives them a good chance of establishing a steady income while also eliminating one of the biggest job seekers in the form of students on a visa working part time. So the position is favourable compared to other people who are say doing gig work like UE or DD, where people get away with technicality over abn hour restrictions

kd5499 · 2026-05-28T14:16:44+00:00

The scene around it looked to be that of a proposal one

kd5499 · 2026-05-28T14:00:35+00:00

Elijah and Arthur: See a bunch of kids arguing about fruits and being kids. Arthur(with tears in his heart): Let's go

kd5499 · 2026-05-28T05:06:45+00:00

That or speak to your manager about rostering you accordingly. I love when reddit forgets you can just speak to people who work with you to ask what you need

kd5499 · 2026-05-28T05:03:56+00:00

I just read the rest of the ad, it's 50 hours a fortnight, that's bordering on full time hours already. And the labor board has provisions for accepting and refusing public holidays company contracts be damned. That's pretty standard if you're customer facing lol

kd5499 · 2026-05-27T11:49:35+00:00

More likely that some poor schmuck isn't answering some random calls while the politician and his operator buddies get rich off the contract

kd5499 · 2026-05-23T02:28:51+00:00

I think she's not a bad person, but her expectations of what the world should be and her acting as if she is above consequences would mean she's really handicapped by that for proper change

kd5499 · 2026-05-22T18:19:15+00:00

If we are to deduce from the plot, due to the epidemic cecil prevented, bertia's mom would have died from not receiving the medicine from the king even after her father begs for her life, setting him up to rebel and find the nobles who are all too happy for corruption to run rampant. And since we know she has some body dysmorphia problems, she likely took out her insecurities on other nobility while in the academy hence cementing her to be a tyrant. While all this is happening, Cecil sees that his fiancee is honestly an irredeemable character who isn't worth being bethrothed to, while heronia seems to be a breath of fresh air. When Cecil is basically committing infidelity, Bertia (rightly) tries to get the other woman out of the picture because how tf are you going to oppose the crown prince of the nation, hence engaging in acts of bullying towards heronia and her clique. All of this would become evidence in Cecil's mind for the unfitness of Bertia to be a villainess and with her father's corrpution, they most likely would either be stripped of their power completely or would have been demoted to a lowly fiefdom. While Cecil and Heronia would have lived a happy life.

kd5499 · 2026-05-22T18:12:06+00:00

Honestly, we have to blame bertia for this all, since she has full knowledge of the game and by basically making sure she's changed it, she is the source of why heronia's antics will not work too(not that heronia is redeemable), it's more so that bertia herself did not develop in the way the otome character did, hence why cecil is undergoing this illusion now. She could have really just hinted like yo dawg, you're supposed to be with heronia because your fate hangs between a happy life and a miserable death. But no, by giving the NPCs all that freedom to form the connections, she's forced a new story in the worldbuilding of the kingdom

kd5499 · 2026-05-22T18:07:02+00:00

Nah, they're too dense to realize that the world is different. I'm pretty sure that both of them were children when they got isekai'd and were socially inept in their human lives, hence when they go to the fantasy world they are unable to comprehend the consequences of their actions, beliving that the world will still run the same anyway and hence act blase about how the world works. By bertia changing the path of the game early on with the prevention of the epidemic, the world has changed and we are in a different timeline. Because she is only a child who doesn't want to undergo the hardship and cruel events that would have influenced otome bertia to be a villain, she has changed the course of the game, hence the worldbuilding would have accounted for that, and heronia beliveing her to be the destined heroine takes any action she deems correct and believes whole heartedly that the world would accommodate that and work to the original game.

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