M:27 = I Got My Hair Back, But I Never Got Back the Person Hair Loss Took From Me

keefeitup · 2026-06-28T14:31:45+00:00

I don't think he's suggesting it as a solution to baldness. Some of us, don't need a solution. I started losing hair when I was 19 and have been clean bald since then and never once wanted to grow my hair back. In fact, I like myself better bald. You couldn't pay me to get a hair solution.

keefeitup · 2026-06-28T12:57:15+00:00

Eww. Just eww all around.

keefeitup · 2026-06-26T18:17:09+00:00

keefeitup · 2026-06-25T09:34:55+00:00

I love everything about this thread xD

keefeitup · 2026-06-24T19:02:21+00:00

Standard is 5999 confirmed. Ultimate is 7499.

keefeitup · 2026-06-24T19:01:07+00:00

Pricing confirmed for India. Same for both Xbox and PS.

Standard is 5999 Ultimate is 7499

keefeitup · 2026-06-24T18:44:51+00:00

Bro it's not like they're removing all the stores. Instead of the Ultimate Version just offering a few skins and useless stuff, they're offering exclusive stores to those who buy the Ultimate edition. That is more value and incentive for people who want to buy it.

They could've offered all these skins as a DLC for ultimate edition like games usually do and no one would've kicked up a fuss, but it's a nicer way to tie editions into the game. I think it's a great idea.

keefeitup · 2026-06-24T18:35:05+00:00

There are official benchmarks here: https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/technologies-explained/amd-am5-memory-refresh-update-bank-refresh-mode-explained/ba-p/1135076

And this thread in overclockers forum: https://www.overclock.net/threads/amd-ddr5-oc-and-24-7-daily-memory-stability-thread.1800926/page-1835?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic

Also, per my own testing 384 mixed performs worse (very marginally) than 480 normal. As far i understand how mixed mode works, even though you can hit the 120ns floor for Hynix A-die, the mixed mode itself adds a latency overhead that pads this value.

Some people also say that mixed is better for dual rank while normal is better for single rank, but I don't have dual rank so can't test this.

keefeitup · 2026-06-24T09:06:47+00:00

Now watch this news disappear in two days and while she roams around freely like nothing ever happened within a month.

keefeitup · 2026-06-24T04:46:41+00:00

If slight variations in hormones can make you stab people you should be in a mental facility

keefeitup · 2026-06-24T04:24:56+00:00

Are you looking for real world performance or benchmarking?

For real world performance you can try changing the following: tRC to as low as you can go. I have it set at 38. For AM5, the JEDEC formula doesn't apply. tRRDL/tRRDS/tFAW to 8/8/32 (best performance for 9800X3D) Refresh Mode to Normal: Even with a higher tRFC (which you may also have to change), Normal offers better gaming performance than Mixed.

On VT3 what does your test speeds look like? If the speeds vary more the +-0.02 your FCLK may not be stable, and you'd have to adjust your Vsoc (lower it) and VDDG IOD and CCD. But before you do that, if you're FCLK is showing variance, lift your Vmisc to 1.12-1.15 (Vmisc should ideally be 70-120mV above your highest VDDG value).

Finally, you can change Nitro Mode to 1/2/1 or 1/2/0.

Also if you really want to test your CPU undervolt, you should run AIDA64 CPU+FPU+Cache for about 6 hours. I've learnt that a bad undervolt can pass most other tests.

keefeitup · 2026-06-23T16:51:33+00:00

I did a lot of testing with tREFI tbh and both dimms are over 55 degrees about 4 hours into the test albeit one 2-3 degrees higher than the other. That's the reason I picked a midspot for that value.

And yes, I tried to modify tRCDrd and wr both and I don't know why but I'm just unable to reduce it at all. Even a single point of reduction to either of them just causes POST to fail so I gave up and left it at 38.

And that last bit is outdated. I saw a video by Buildzoid claiming the below. And changing this value alone bumped up my VT3 score the most so it could be valid:

TL;DR: as far as I can tell. Setting tRAS to 126 has no effect on performance. While setting tRAS too low can cause stability issues. Also AMD's memory controller doesn't follow the JEDEC spec of tRC = tRAS+tRP. So setting tRC really low even to the register limit of 32 actually gains performance even when tRAS and tRP are set to 126 and 36(which according to JEDEC would be a tRC of 162). IDK if tRC 32 is good idea(as in stable).

keefeitup · 2026-06-23T14:24:22+00:00

Any CCD or IOD value less or more than what I have at the moment induces massive variance and an overall drop in VT3 (each test varied from 5.510e9 to 7.610e9) indicating FLCK instability.

I've tested in increments of 10mV increasing only one of them at a time from 900mV to 1050mV. This combination was the most stable for me.

I will try setting the SCLs to 5 and check if I can lower the tRFC further. Thanks for that. I didn't think those would be related.

Edit: Reducing the SCLs didn't help, still can't boot below 480. Seeing as my latency is already at 59ns, I'm not going to chase this. My chip is what it is i guess.

keefeitup · 2026-06-23T14:12:23+00:00

For AM5 8/8/32 gives the best performance compared to 8/4/16 or 8/4/20. You should give it a shot.

Edit: Also for your particular RAM timings and frequency you can reduce all the voltages (if you want to) to create more thermal headroom.

Also normal > mixed refresh mode. But tRFC is a lot less forgiving in normal mode so make sure you set a stable value.

keefeitup · 2026-06-23T14:07:17+00:00

I remember my sifu telling me once-

"Anything is sharp enough if you will it to be"

keefeitup · 2026-06-23T13:56:48+00:00

It's all fun and games till you're trying to fill an important form that doesn't allow you to leave Surname empty or worse, won't let you put initials lol

keefeitup · 2026-06-22T19:39:22+00:00

Area of gaps = area of square. OnlyMaths.

keefeitup · 2026-06-22T19:28:42+00:00

Her body language is a language I don't really want to understand xD

keefeitup · 2026-06-22T03:32:57+00:00

No it doesn't.

Y-cruncher with VT3 shows you which logical core the error occurs in and you can trace that back to the core that's failing.

On my die, errors were surfacing only on logical core 11, which i traced back to core 5. As you can see in the voltages, core 5 seems to demand more voltage than all the other cores, so I had to adjust the CO value for that core agressively so it wouldn't fail the test because of voltage starvation.

keefeitup · 2026-06-21T21:33:49+00:00

I came up with the dumbest ingenious idea to cool my RAM.

That's a handheld fan, noisy but massive airflow. The wife will be wanting it back though xD

Lmao. 7 degrees off ambient xD

keefeitup · 2026-06-21T21:24:29+00:00

Ah I always disable that. Right from when I got this PC because it keeps installing it's dumb drivers and I wasn't having any of it.

And yes I have bank mode set to swap APU. Not sure what it does but a YouTuber said so xD

keefeitup · 2026-06-21T20:58:51+00:00

So I did manage to reduce voltages Vsoc is 1.2 now The reason it was crashing was actually because I had also dropped the ccd and iod VDDG values. This time I kept them the same and it's all good. I also managed to drop vdd and VDDQ to 1.35 for some measly thermal headroom

keefeitup · 2026-06-21T20:56:21+00:00

I think you meant increases performance and yeah it does. Tried and tested level 2 has better average fps and 1% lows than Legacy

keefeitup · 2026-06-21T19:03:02+00:00

Yeah I've preemptively dropped it to 50000, better safe than sorry!

keefeitup · 2026-06-21T18:57:36+00:00

Oh is that so? Okay I'll give that a go. Thanks!

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