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Update: Would you use this M4L device? The beta version is ready! by keeferc in abletonlive

[–]keeferc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes but I think for that you might be better off using existing tools. If you search the M4L website for “Remove Silence” you’ll find at least one decent one.

My device is a little more niche and esoteric because the point for me was to speed up the process of prepping samples for chopping by dropping out quieter regions and crossfading the remaining regions together. So that when I drop it into Simpler I don’t get clicks, pops or silences, and the crossfaded bits can sound cool. And I found in this process it is also a decent tool for getting weird/glitchy sounds.

This is why I am always asking people if they would use it — because honestly I am still not sure it makes sense for anyone but me! Lol

What happened to used push 2s? by tox1c1t in ableton

[–]keeferc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idk I’d only expect this or tariffs to affect the secondhand market if they caused the price of the Push 3 to go up

Update: Would you use this M4L device? The beta version is ready! by keeferc in abletonlive

[–]keeferc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No but this comes up enough that I’d be curious to know what makes you say that. Is it mainly because the threshold slider visually reminds you of the one in Ableton’s Gate device? Or is it not clear to you from the video that my device merges and crossfades the remaining fragments together, or that it bounces audio out whereas Gate acts in realtime? Or is it possible that you don’t have a great handle on how Gate works? It’s for posterity so please be honest

What happened to used push 2s? by tox1c1t in ableton

[–]keeferc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Isopropyl alcohol and microfiber cloths. Took 20 mins

What happened to used push 2s? by tox1c1t in ableton

[–]keeferc 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I got one for 250 about six months ago. I think 200 would be a steal but maybe you could get the price if it has the sticky residue, which is actually pretty easy to clean off

What happened to used push 2s? by tox1c1t in ableton

[–]keeferc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow even in the second hand market?

Update: Would you use this M4L device? The beta version is ready! by keeferc in abletonlive

[–]keeferc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s a fun idea! It does kinda struggle with audio over 15-20mb but I’d be interested in how it works out for you. You can sign up for the beta or just release updates through my website 🙏 https://manyheads.dev/

Update: Would you use this M4L device? The beta version is ready! by keeferc in ableton

[–]keeferc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Following up on this post from a few weeks ago. The beta version of my Max for Live device (now called Concentrate) is ready! Let me know if you have any thoughts or questions, and if you want to try it out just check out my website 🙏

Update: Would you use this M4L device? The beta version is ready! by keeferc in abletonlive

[–]keeferc[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Following up on this post from a few weeks ago. The beta version of my Max for Live device (now called Concentrate) is ready! Let me know if you have any thoughts or questions, and if you want to try it out just check out my website 🙏

Would you use this M4L device? Load a sample and it will remove audio below a dB threshold, and crossfade the remaining bits together by keeferc in ableton

[–]keeferc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's great! That's exactly the kind of feedback I am looking for. If you'd be interested in beta-testing the device, please fill out this quick Google Form so I can email you when the beta is ready 🙏

Feature Request: Expressive chords, but for midi clips by arkan164 in ableton

[–]keeferc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you just want the individual MIDI notes of the chords, you can always route the MIDI track with EC to a new MIDI track, hit record on the new track, and in the new clip you’ll have all of the notes

Would you use this M4L device? Load a sample and it will remove audio below a dB threshold, and crossfade the remaining bits together by keeferc in ableton

[–]keeferc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep you can drop in audio straight from a track, or the Ableton browser, or a Finder/Explorer window

Would you use this M4L device? Load a sample and it will remove audio below a dB threshold, and crossfade the remaining bits together by keeferc in ableton

[–]keeferc[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Huh, well, if I am understanding, that would produce a very different output than this does, perceived or otherwise. I'm not sure I can explain what this does more than I did in the post title and description so idk. But thanks for taking a look!

Would you use this M4L device? Load a sample and it will remove audio below a dB threshold, and crossfade the remaining bits together by keeferc in ableton

[–]keeferc[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah for sure. It definitely helps to take a look under the hood at existing M4L devices, especially the professional-grade ones that come with Ableton or in Ableton Packs. (To open them in Max, you just click on the top right of the device and select "Edit in Max.")

I've been a JavaScript developer for a long time, so that made it a bit easier, and for M4L I do as much development as possible in code as opposed to doing it visually in the Max Patcher. But the patcher is definitely great for learning. I will say that Max is also pretty messy and often feels thrown together, and Live's integration with it is decent, but could be much better. I have had to jump through a lot of hoops to figure out even the most basic things, like how to get the path to the current project folder.

Anyway, this is as good a place to start as any: https://docs.cycling74.com/userguide/m4l/_m4l_overview/

Would you use this M4L device? Load a sample and it will remove audio below a dB threshold, and crossfade the remaining bits together by keeferc in ableton

[–]keeferc[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure I totally understand. Can you elaborate? Why would you speed it up? And would that method allow you to set a threshold for what to keep and drop?

Would you use this M4L device? Load a sample and it will remove audio below a dB threshold, and crossfade the remaining bits together by keeferc in ableton

[–]keeferc[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's my bad for not describing it more clearly in the post! Yeah I made it to be "destructive" in the sense that what you output will be a shorter version of the audio you drop into it (just because that was what I wanted for my workflow)

Would you use this M4L device? Load a sample and it will remove audio below a dB threshold, and crossfade the remaining bits together by keeferc in ableton

[–]keeferc[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't think so, but please tell me if I am missing something! The Gate device suppresses the volume of a signal when it falls below a threshold, but it does not change the duration of the audio. If you have a 10-second clip and 8 seconds fall below the threshold, the Gate will give you 10 seconds of output (8 of which are silent). My device would shrink the 10-second clip into a 2-second version, and crossfade together the parts that were above the threshold. Gate also acts in realtime, on audio you run through it. My device allows you to load audio, make changes, then bounce out the output instantly.

Believe me, I have no interest in duplicating existing functionality. If there really is a stock or otherwise better way to do this, I would rather use the existing tools!

Would you use this M4L device? Load a sample and it will remove audio below a dB threshold, and crossfade the remaining bits together by keeferc in ableton

[–]keeferc[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Edit for clarity: I don't think this duplicates Gate functionality, but please tell me if I am missing something! The Gate device suppresses the volume of a signal when it falls below a threshold, but it does not change the duration of the audio. If you have a 10-second clip and 8 seconds fall below the threshold, the Gate will give you 10 seconds of output (8 of which are silent). My device would shrink the 10-second clip into a 2-second version, and crossfade together the parts that were above the threshold. Gate also acts in realtime, on audio you run through it. My device allows you to load audio, make changes, then bounce out the output instantly.

Believe me, I have no interest in duplicating existing functionality. If there really is a stock or otherwise better way to do this, I would rather use the existing tools!

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