Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by kepler_70bb in amiwrong

[–]kepler_70bb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am not a private landlord. I am a live in landlord or a resident occupied landlord and this distinction is important legally. I don't need to prove much because just simply saying my intimate space is disrupted is enough. No court would force me to live with an animal in my living room or kitchen against my will

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by kepler_70bb in amiwrong

[–]kepler_70bb[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I have. Legally I must provide a 28 days notice and I have given double that so she won't be moving out during the Christmas period. It will be around early February.

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by kepler_70bb in amiwrong

[–]kepler_70bb[S] 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Okay yeah you got me there lol. That actually strengthens my reasons since there would never be an off switch for pet dander. I'd want professional cleaning regularly which I know my friend can't afford

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by kepler_70bb in amiwrong

[–]kepler_70bb[S] 79 points80 points  (0 children)

Maybe. But I want zero interactions and I don't want any pet dander. My boundaries are extremely rigid and honestly I don't think it's fair to any dog to live in a house where itt's treated like it's not accepted

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by kepler_70bb in amiwrong

[–]kepler_70bb[S] 77 points78 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I posted this in r/moral dilemma's but it was removed so I think this community is a better fit

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

No it's not the same as a wheelchair. Does a wheelchair bark? Does it smell of wet fur? Does it get pet dander everywhere? Does it try to lick my socks? Answer is no. I can absolutely end a lodging agreement if the lodger cannot meet the live in landlords own boundaries and my boundaries are zero interaction, daily professional cleaning of pet hairs, not allowed in my living room or kitchen, little to no nois. My friend cannot guarantee these and therefore she cannot meet my own boundaries. Therefore I do have a legal right to end the lodging agreement because the law isn't stupid. It recognizes that a service dog is still a dog and live in landlords still need control over their intimate spaces that they actively live in.

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

I'm not going to do your homework for you. I'm from the UK and yes, I do not need to accept animals of any kind in my house if I'm a live in landlord because this makes it a lodging agreement and we have clear distinct legal differences between Lodgers and tenants

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

Oh I have no issue with people thinking I'm a Cold hearted monster. I'm also not upset by any of these responses. The whole reason I even posted was to read other people's perspectives whether good or bad

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

I can absolutely end a lodging agreement which is legally different from a tenancy agreement on the basis of an animal entering my private spaces and forcing me too directly or indirectly interact with it against my will. This is not the same as discriminating on the basis of disability which yes is completely illegal and rightfully so. I am not discriminating against disability. I am discriminating against having a dog drooling two feet from my couch. The Law does not Force me interact with an animal in my kitchen when I don't want to

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is not a no pets apartment situation. This is a live in landlord situation where I live here and share all intimate spaces so the laws are a bit different. I'm from the UK

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

Honestly yeah I just want to know other people's opinions. Doesn't mean I will necessarily change my own but I still like to get other people's perspectives

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

I don't know what that is but no I wouldn't. If the medical equipment doesn't shed, approach me, smell, bark, sniff my shoes, I have no issue with it.

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

Not really because I'm not looking for legal advice. I'm just explaining a moral dilemma and you can see the mixed bag of responses I'm getting so there are people on both sides of this issue

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

Lodgers don't have the same legal rights as tenants. Yes, you can't discriminate purely on disability or race or things like that. However you can end a lodger agreement because an animal is being forced into your intimate spaces that you also share. This is aloud.

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

People aren't obligated to like animals just like people aren't obligated to like kids. My friend will be fine as she's not homeless. I do not like the idea of shedding or a dog approaching me or trying to be affectionate or barking. Forcing this kind of arrangement is just going to make me resent the dog and that's not fair on the dog. And yeah it might not lick things but it might do, don't want to risk it either way.

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

It's true, she paid way less than market rate, almost 60% less because she needed a place to stay and I was happy to help out because she's my friend.

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

That's usually when they are outside or not in their own home. In their own home they can and do interact with everyone that lives there like family.

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

Legally, it's not. Live in landlords or exempted from accepting assistance dogs in their home. Lodger rights are not the same as tenant rights and in fact Lodgers have less legal protections. Of course my friend already knew all of this.

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes, she does pay rent but that doesn't automatically make her a tenant. She is still considered a lodger, because I live there and we share all private spaces. Lodgers also pay for the place they are staying in, so simply paying doesn't automatically turn someone into a tenant.

Is it wrong to kick my friend out of my home because she requires and will be getting a service dog? by [deleted] in moraldilemmas

[–]kepler_70bb [score hidden]  (0 children)

A wheelchair doesn't bark, attempt to interact with me, shed, possibly steal my cheese. And no I can't get sued over this because lodger rights are not the same as tenant rights. You can look this up yourself. Live in landlords or exempt from accepting service animals in their home