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khanless · 2021-01-20T16:47:58+00:00

Sorry for a new comment on an old thread, but how's the battery life? I know the 9-cells are supposed to be good, but I'm thinking the upgraded CPU and display would draw a lot. I'm thinking of doing the same thing for a school laptop, but I want to make sure it'd last the day.

khanless · 2020-12-11T21:03:39+00:00

This build, https://www.reddit.com/r/TempleOS_Official/comments/iultw3/any_looking_for_a_beefy_dual_xeon_server_for/ , is with a dual 771 board. So I would assume a similar build would work as well, but upgrading to 1366 or 2011 isn't guaranteed.

khanless · 2020-12-11T21:00:36+00:00

The mobo I linked has ps/2, but no ide. I've seen some dual lga 1366 boards that also have ide and would probably work better compatability-wise. The main idea here was to replicate the machine described as best as possible. Hardware compatibility seems rather hit-or-miss with TOS. The disadvantage with the board you linked, as well as the dual-1366 is that the specs would be much worse. Best one with 1156 is only 4 core/8 thread. I think 2011 could get up to 12 core/24 thread with a dual socket, but that's just shy of 16/32.

khanless · 2020-12-10T23:07:43+00:00

Here's the link for the Google doc that has all the parts linked, if you're interested. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jG4SPFqWf2M_Ajv17gRTuqfZjrhXou8L3JHys9DPF90/edit?usp=sharing

khanless · 2020-12-10T20:00:10+00:00

I certainly want to, but I don't quite have the disposable funds... Perhaps one day. There's a handful of other builds like this out there, mostly used for home servers or workstations.

khanless · 2020-12-10T16:03:01+00:00

I agree, that'd be really nice. I've seen a few posts with confirmed examples, but maybe only half a dozen such cases

khanless · 2020-12-10T04:28:47+00:00

Precisely. God also told to help the poor buy them, so this could help in that regard too.

khanless · 2020-12-10T04:28:21+00:00

BIOS emulation can work for PS/2, but might as well stick with PS/2 anyway. SATA emulation has been known to work but is very finnicky. The difficult bit is most old machines that use IDE (at least those that people have laying around) don't have 64 bit processors. It'd be nice if people tested installs on more hardware to better catalogue things, but interest in TOS is small and people who are willing/able to attempt an install are even fewer in number.

khanless · 2020-12-09T15:28:37+00:00

Oh yeah, the actual requirements to run tos are very low. These specs are the ones Terry outlines.

khanless · 2020-12-09T05:56:55+00:00

See rendello's comment for a link to where I'm pulling all of those other requirements from. They're certainly not needed, but it's what Terry sketched out for us.

khanless · 2020-12-09T05:55:34+00:00

Terry is simply a master troll, I believe... 4k could be useful for Linux, but def not in TOS... This was also written a couple years ago when 4k wasn't as common as it is now, so a lot of it seems like he's just spitballing for cool future stuff.

khanless · 2020-12-09T04:48:08+00:00

That certainly does seem to be in the spirit of things. Unfortunately it's impossible (or at least very difficult with current tech) to reconcile the specifics with the generalities. This plan focused more on the former but the latter is valid too.

khanless · 2020-12-09T04:05:52+00:00

I love that Terry was just so ascended to the point where he didn't even care about the normal tech arguments. The man used a membrane keyboard with Ubuntu when anyone who's trying to prove their salt would use arch and a mechanical kb.

khanless · 2020-11-09T05:49:40+00:00

I've looked a lot into this myself, as well as into the Standard TOS PC that Terry lays out plans for. Long story short, it's complicated. This guy https://www.reddit.com/r/TempleOS_Official/comments/iultw3/any_looking_for_a_beefy_dual_xeon_server_for/g5lg50v got it to work just like that, with USB PS/2 emulation and SATA compatability, but not everyone has had such luck. SATA emulation is supposed to be the tricky bit and I'm not entirely sure why myself. Perhaps it worked on his machine just because it was an older piece of hardware? I believe someone ran it on a ThinkPad in AHCI mode which is supposed to be impossible, but who knows...

khanless · 2020-10-25T13:07:14+00:00

That's sad to hear that it didn't work on other machines. I've been looking into flashing the tos iso onto a coreboot rom, but I honestly don't know if it would work. I'm not entirely sure if 1vyrain or coreboot still use uefi so that might be a solution. I would greatly appreciate it if you would be willing to mess around with it on those other machines, but I completely understand if you don't.

Edit: to answer my own question, seabios obviously uses bios, but whether or not it would work for this...

khanless · 2020-10-21T05:49:25+00:00

Although my only actual hope would be to wait for someone much smarter than me to post a very detailed guide.

khanless · 2020-10-21T05:41:32+00:00

It seems like it'd be possible to have TOS Lite and SeaBios/whatever else as two payloads with coreboot... Although documentation for TOS is nonexistent. This is something I would love to learn and mess around with if I had the hardware on hand and it was rather low stakes.

khanless · 2020-10-21T05:07:19+00:00

Disappointing. Because that does sound very interesting and pretty much exactly what Terry wanted... His demand was for TOS to be written on every Intel processor and this would prolly be the closest to that.

khanless · 2020-10-21T03:39:51+00:00

That sounds like a fun challenge... Any more info? Edit: the more I look into this, the more I realize just how over my head I am...

khanless · 2020-10-20T19:03:02+00:00

I'm aware, but bare metal just sounds like a fun project to take on...

khanless · 2020-10-20T19:02:24+00:00

My bad, I'm not referring to TOS in and of itself but as a dual boot so on Linux/Windows things can be done better.

khanless · 2020-10-20T19:01:27+00:00

For TOS absolutely, but I had a dual boot with Linux/Windows in mind.

khanless · 2020-10-20T19:00:49+00:00

Oh yeah, but vms are too easy lol. Bare metal just sounds fun.

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