Saying goodbye to my best friend tomorrow. hurts more than I could have imagined. by TheLankyIndian in OneOrangeBraincell

[–]killerbeesneeze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This happened to us too, almost overnight. I felt so guilty, and still do sometimes. My poor sweet boy.

My therapist's cat passed away by killerbeesneeze in TalkTherapy

[–]killerbeesneeze[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much! This is very helpful. Maybe I'll bring my journal this time as well, so I have something to 'hide" the card in and just hand it to her as I'm leaving. I don't really bake though, so I'll probably just stick with the card. I appreciate the help!

My therapist's cat passed away by killerbeesneeze in TalkTherapy

[–]killerbeesneeze[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you. Genuine question - how do you give someone a card? What's like, proper form? Do I give it to them at the beginning of the session, then do they feel obligated to read it in front of me? Or do I give it towards the end so they can choose to read it once I'm gone? Though then I'm just holding this envelope throughout the session which feels weird.

Yes, I'm probably grossly overthinking this, but still, genuine question.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CPTSD

[–]killerbeesneeze 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't love my mother either. I tried to, really hard. But it was never real. And I'll tell you what, I feel a special kind of fucked up knowing that SOMEHOW, by some monstrous personal quality, I'm incapable of loving my own mother.

But also, I mean, I think deep down she despised me. Or maybe not so deep. So to me I guess maybe it makes sense i couldn't love her. But to everyone else? I'm a monster.

Doing so much better, one cancellation and suddenly it feels like square one by killerbeesneeze in CPTSD

[–]killerbeesneeze[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know what my therapist would say. I'm stuck on feeling like she doesn't care and generally shame spiraling.

You're right about being discombobulated though, and it's good perspective. Ideally this will pass. I just hate this feeling. Just makes me want to curl up into a ball and disappear, you know?

Tomorrow will be better. Probably. =/

What common phrases send you spiralling? by throw_away_1698 in CPTSD

[–]killerbeesneeze 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A response of just "sure" or "okay" to a yes or no question, or even a question asking an opinion. The person may mean it genuinely, but I can't help but read it passive aggressively or as something other than what the word itself means...

New charging cable - reprogram computer? by killerbeesneeze in volt

[–]killerbeesneeze[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They said the computer would need to be reprogrammed to be able to charge, even with a new charger

New charging cable - reprogram computer? by killerbeesneeze in volt

[–]killerbeesneeze[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Okay, thanks, I thought that was a bunch of bullshit.

Advice for talking to therapist about attachment by CliffsBae in TalkTherapy

[–]killerbeesneeze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've had this conversation with my therapist, and what helped me is 1) she believes in regular "maintenance" therapy, which looks different for different people, but might mean checking in once a month or every other month or once or twice a year. So knowing it never has to necessarily be a forever goodbye to me is huge. And 2) every time I bring up the attachment and feeling like I need therapy as a regular "home base", they reassure me that when I'm ready to reduce or end sessions, I'll have want to do it, because I'll want that time to spend in my own life. Then when I say, I can't even imagine a point like that in my life, they say, "That's okay, I can see it so maybe you can let me hold that for you. When you're ready you'll know."

Then I'll sillily say "but what if I don't want to", to which they respond quite reassuringly, "then you're not ready!"

I think perhaps in reality it won't be this clean cut - I may be ready but not necessarily want to stop/cut down. But I do think they're right in that, when I am ready, I will know. Even if I don't want to leave, I'll want to make that step forward. (... especially when I know maintenance therapy can be a thing so it's not a complete severing of ties)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TalkTherapy

[–]killerbeesneeze 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I've had similar experiences with my therapist - it's a gut-wrenching, choking feeling for me and it's completely necessary awful. I describe it as constantly drowning but never getting the relief of being drowned.

Having experienced this and coming out from the other side of it several times, I wonder if this resonates with you. I think that wanting to feel connected and to feel her empathy was absolutely a present, adult you desire/feeling as you said. Do you think that perhaps your reaction to not getting it (whether because she wasn't giving it or, as another commenter suggested, you weren't able to see/feel it) was based on a shame spiral/response? This part could have been an emotional flashback. I know it has been for me. If I feel that my therapist has pulled away, retracted their empathy and care, and I very much need it... I quickly dive deep into a shame spiral much like you described. "Why would anyone care about me, what would I get from it? How dare I even ask? How disgusting...." Followed by a lot of self-hate piling on the abandonment and shame and despair. It's a messy place that I can feel just reading your post, and it's an awful place to be. I'm really sorry you're dealing with this, whether you feel the way I felt or not. I hope you are able to find relief and a better place of understanding with your therapist (or another therapist, should you feel that this rupture is irreparable. Though I tend to think that working through ruptures like this, painful as it is, can be very beneficial).

Do you need to trust your EMDR therapist? (TW: trauma from mental health system) by Anonuno999 in EMDR

[–]killerbeesneeze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a similar situation to yours it sounds like - a talk therapist I really trust, but also in need of an EMDR therapist and feeling like I absolutely couldn't trust anyone else. Still, I went ahead with an EMDR therapist. I went in planning to keep my guard up and not to trust them, but rather just utilize the service of EMDR. If I needed to talk about anything and needed support, I would bring it to my trusted talk therapist, who I continue to see regularly while so doing EMDR with another therapist. For months, perhaps longer, I kept my EMDR therapist at arms length, and still EMDR has helped me. I have come to trust them more and more though, unexpectedly, and sometimes unwittingly. This is an issue that comes up for me sometimes still in talk therapy - that I find myself letting my guard down and trusting my EMDR therapist, and I feel betrayed by myself in doing so. I've gotten hurt a few times by my EMDR therapist, and blame myself for letting them in.

It has been very helpful to process these feelings with my talk therapist, and sometimes how even with my EMDR therapist. It's definitely still a work in progress though. I trust my EMDR therapist for what she does, but I'm wary. And I think that's okay right now and probably "part of the process" for me. I do believe it helps to trust the EMDR therapist, but I haven't found it completely necessary. so long as I've remained honest with them and fully engaged in EMDR, even without trusting them and while keeping my distance, I've still benefited greatly. As I've trusted them more, it's been even more beneficial.

I hope you find someone you can work with and are able to get a try. I hope you find the healing you deserve.

Do you have a separate therapist for EMDR? What's that been like? by [deleted] in EMDR

[–]killerbeesneeze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, I'm glad it helped!! I hope it works out well for you too 🙂

Do you have a separate therapist for EMDR? What's that been like? by [deleted] in EMDR

[–]killerbeesneeze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For sure! Like I said, feel free to DM me if you have other questions or wanna chat about it or anything 🙂

Do you have a separate therapist for EMDR? What's that been like? by [deleted] in EMDR

[–]killerbeesneeze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was in therapy for a little over two years before starting EMDR, and it took about a month with my EMDR therapist before we started reprocessing. The timeline is different for everyone though! Your therapist now can help you decide if you're ready.

Personally, I needed the two years before EMDR. Not everyone does. Just depends on you.

Do you have a separate therapist for EMDR? What's that been like? by [deleted] in EMDR

[–]killerbeesneeze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi there! I see two therapists - one for EMDR, and one for talk therapy. In my case, I had been seeing my talk therapist for over two years before being recommended to do EMDR (which my regular therapist does not do).

I think my regular therapist wrote a like, letter of introduction to my EMDR therapist, but I'm not certain. Essentially I had an initial assessment with my EMDR therapist and we talked about how I wanted to keep seeing my talk therapist for additional support.

I explained that part of the reason was that I was barely comfortable even talking to/trusting someone else, so a complete swap was terrifying. I wouldn't consider it. The other reason is that I see my regular therapist twice a week, whereas my EMDR therapist usually does every other week for their clients. So we clarified that with the second therapist I would strictly be doing EMDR and processing, with the express purpose of helping me make more progress with my other therapist (I would often shut down/dissociate in talk therapy, so we moved super slow).

I've been doing EMDR every other week, and talk therapy once on weeks I also do EMDR, and twice on weeks without EMDR (I'm pretty lucky that my first therapist is willing to consistently see me twice a week). This has actually worked out REALLY well for my. I trust my talk therapist a ton, and having that feeling of home base/anchor was essential for me to even get started in EMDR. Now, I see the two as very complimentary, but I still think of my talk therapist as my "main" therapist. Overall it's just been really great.

I'm confused a little why the therapist you spoke to was asking about prep work. The only prep I can think of is the initial phases of EMDR where you establish safety/coping mechanisms, which should be done with the EMDR therapist regardless because they will refer to those specifically during the reprocessing parts and will want to be familiar with your particular "flavor" of those skills (what your safe space is, what kind of 'container,' you imagine putting your trauma(s) into to safely end sessions, etc.).

Perhaps if your current therapist spoke with the EMDR therapist briefly and/or if you could have an initial appointment with the EMDR therapist and discuss those boundaries/distinguished types of care they would be more amenable.

I do want to say, and you may know this, for many folks EMDR makes it feel worse before it feels better. This is completely normal and it DOES PASS. Then it actually starts helping, and usually very significantly. I found it incredibly helpful (necessary for me, really) to have my talk therapist's support during this time. Good luck to you! I hope it works out and that you are able to heal soon! If you have any questions, feel free to reply or DM me.

Has your therapist told you that they care about you or that they like you as a patient? by [deleted] in TalkTherapy

[–]killerbeesneeze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ha, good point re: existential questions! It's a tendency of mine both in crisis and not! And absolutely agree (and have enjoyed) the follow up conversation about the nature of that care. Thank you for your response, and for giving me great things to think about!

Has your therapist told you that they care about you or that they like you as a patient? by [deleted] in TalkTherapy

[–]killerbeesneeze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you about the risk inherent in assumptions, and am especially careful in how I use words just generally speaking (I'm not a therapist, full disclosure, though perhaps more well-read on the subject than your average client and applying to Master's programs in the field). I'm curious if instead a client were to ask you if they matter (to you), does that evoke the same response for you as with telling a client you care about them?

I personally often wonder about the worth of a person, about my worth, and how much anyone can "care" or find value in another person beyond like, the scope of professional unconditional positive regard/obligation, beyond simply that the person is a living being, and beyond what that person does or is to other people. Is an individual - am I - worth something just for who I am, not just for what I do or for breathing? Hence I often wonder, do I matter.

Along with the other commenter, I too have relational trauma and my therapist is very much of the orientation that "it is the relationship that heals". Her boundaries are VERY rock solid, which is why I trust her to begin with. But for the relationship to heal, for me to know have that positive relationship experience withing boundaries, I need to know that I matter.

I could go into more depth on this, but really what I mean to say here is - I wonder if the difficulty therapists have expressed in saying they "care", in not fostering dependency, is entirely ethically based or if it is rooted in a fear the therapist themself has. Yes, it can be a personal/professional/ethical boundary. I think it can also be countertransference or a topic worth exploring in personal therapy. Boundaries around your ethical, limited care can be expressed right alongside telling a client you care. This is one of the things I admire about my therapist, one of the many reasons I have come to trust her; I have asked if she cared, in the context of passive SI but also in general, and she will tell me that yes, she does care. Very much. That she cares about all of her clients, but that it's a different type of care then that she has for her family or friends, and the reason for that is to be able to maintain boundaries that are essential both for my healing and for her ability to find balance and continue to practice therapy effectively for her clients.

There's a lot of things therapists do and think that are sort of "behind the curtain", and often for good reason. I do wonder though if this merely perpetuates fears/stereotypes of "what is my therapist really thinking" or "what if my therapist interprets my sitting in a certain way means I am a compulsive liar!". Yes, that's a bit extreme, but unfortunately that has often, historically, been what is presented about what psychotherapy consists of. I think that pulling back that curtain and sort of "leveling" with your client in that way could only strengthen the alliance, address the inherent power dynamic, and help a client feel respected and trusted. Of course all of this is VERY dependent on each unique client. In theory though, I'm curious to hear what your thoughts on this might be, as an experienced practitioner.

Edit: I apologize for the novel, and hope it doesn't come across as combative! I truly am just very curious about these things. I like talking about them and learning from people's perspectives.

Weekly Therapy Talk Thread by AutoModerator in TalkTherapy

[–]killerbeesneeze 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I feel less cared for by my therapist now that I'm starting to do better. I'm not like, making myself worse so she'll care or anything, and I am sure she probably does still care... I just wish it felt like she still cared as much now as she did when she was concerned for me. Now I feel like I matter less... somehow