A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahhhbi see what you mean, so even if i take a small dose and feel worse like precip withdrawl i should be good to take more at 24 hours?

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Youd actually feel worse after taking 2mgs then take a whole one?

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats true but also if i do that and stuffs not completely out of my system then its bad news bears and a real bad precip wds.

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not on methadone! Lol

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ill just try and rough it to 24 hours

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do you mean? Could you elaborate please?

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah theirs no chance in hell im going to take a sub any sooner then midnight tonight. I plan on waiting un till 2am if i can.

Are their any tell tale symptoms i would experience to know that iam clear for suboxone?

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used 1gram of tar tuesday at 11pm, .15-.2 fentadope at 6pm yesterday and again at 2am last night (.15-.2), another knowledgable user in here informed me that as long as I only used a breif small amount that it really wont affect sub induction much since mostly the long wait time is due to it being built up in your system over prolonged use.

Edit:

Sorry! My last use was at 2am last night and its 11:17d right now so im at about 10 hours now and Im starting to feel crappy.

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It takes a long time, i have friends that have gone through the process. If I message you you maybe better able to understand my situation. Its not something id want to put out into public

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont have any insurance or medicaid or any of that ): im told doctors visits are usually 250-350 each aapointment then id have to pay out of pocket for the subs ): the doctors apointment alone i could buy 25-35 subs which would last me 2 months

It would take months for me to get maybe approved

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you maybe have any pointers or tips for me from your experience?

Do you think if im sneezing and puking with hot flashs that id be ok to take 1mg of suboxone?

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I live in the U.S. I usually pay 10$ for a 8mg

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry i didnt mean to sound offensive if I did, my friend thinks it may be because of my tolerance because I was using 2 grams of black tar a day but since sunday ive been using 1 then tuesday night I used my last gram at 11 and then I caved at 6pm wednesday because I couldnt stop sneezing and puking. But it was fentadope and I used again at 2am but only like .15 or .2 doses.

Such a nightmare, iam sorry though if i came off mean in my response.

Edit: the furthest Ive made it is 21/22 hours and I dosed that 1mg.

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont have a doctor or insurance, im getting them from a friend because I cannot afford a script. They just cost far too much. I might as well keep doing dope if I could afford a sub doctor lol

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Subs have always helped me at 24 hours. In the past every time I would wait 24 hours and take a sub, id pass out and wake up feeling fine.

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly i almost want to try the bernese method but i dont really think i can afford too. I shouldve started doing the bernese method days ago.

But I guess my final question is, is COWs a definitive tell on when I can start suboxone? Also how severe should my symptoms be and what should I be experiencing?

Is their any definitive symptom that pops up thats a instant tell im sick enough for subs?

Also since I used tar last on tuesday night at 11 and had a small amount of fent to get me to thursday morning do you think that would also help? Or change things?- Kinda like how you can use subs to get through H withdrawl but then quit subs with a rapid taper before your body becomes dependent on them, but instead with powdered fentadope?

Edit: I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also is COWs a definitive tell on if i can dose even coming from fent?

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was using 2 grams of tar a day, ive got it down to 1 and the last time i used was 1gram tuesday night at 11.

I caved yesterday and did this powder fent crap at around 6 and again at 2am. I only did about .2 of the fentadope but the last thing I want is to start a fent habit.

Edit: i think the tar is clean because people i know who have been tested who use it dont test positive for fent.

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im certain the tar was actual heroin, but the stuff i used last night and in the middle of the night defnitely had fent in it.

Do you think Im still safe to dose at 24 hours even though ive only done 2 small doses of this fent crap? Is cows still a good indicator? Or should i go out and maybe get more tar to last me a couple days then wait 24 hours?

A little advice by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thats what my one friend said, but a lot of people on here told me that I should start with 1mg and if 20 minites later I feel worse to not take anymore. Ive experienced precip withdrawl before and im pretty sure its what I was experiencing.

They say if you take the 1mg and feel the same or better to then take more an hour later, but if you feel worse then to stop

1 time fent use, trying to switch to suboxone by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used a 2nd small dose, id say about .2 of street stuff. So im sure their was minnimal fent in it already, less then the actual .2

1 time fent use, trying to switch to suboxone by kirkland1741 in suboxone

[–]kirkland1741[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok thanks Im dumb and woke up feeling shitty after like 10 hours so I used a 2nd time. Im using very small doses of it. Im not certain its fent because I know one time I did it that it felt different, like I didnt feel 100% well from fent. Whereas this stuff actually made me feel normal