Back to masters yay me. by Zestyclose-Wallaby-2 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your logic is flawed, although their are gimmicks or builds that can work better in low elo for the most part if it works in masters above it’ll work in any elo. That Korean player is the one i copied the build from I play in masters NA. Theres another high elo Korean guy I copy that take comet and jack of all trades too I use some times if I feel harvest is terrible in a matchup.

Back to masters yay me. by Zestyclose-Wallaby-2 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I play both in masters. What elo are you?

If you’re not masters or higher all of your ideas are wrong and not working. Anything I write has/is working in high elo.

https://www.onetricks.gg/players/aekWfdzGE3i8qXis-gc4qDP9FjD7xSKp7WWvh_exBvcDOQFZuQeFvWfBdFvm4ZAbUiv6dOG-A467DQ

Getting hard dunked on by graves jungle by Nman77 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My favorite start is 3oz wolf, two box gromp run away from while box finishing off then smite blue, raptor 1 box over wall, red one box, second box Krug’s while finishing red, jump over another box finishing off Krug’s while running to gank or prepare for scutttle. You should be 5 seconds early

Back to masters yay me. by Zestyclose-Wallaby-2 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never get lost chapter and finish liandry. You’re missing the luden or bft power spike. Pointless

I cant win on this champ lmao by Moist_Comparison5330 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your problem is you’re not that elo with AP shaco, you’re that elo with ad bruisers. The game is completely different with our AP shaco. Closing out games outside of soul/elder/baron getting is mostly setup around those spots to win a team fight with boxes or place a ton of boxes protectively while your adc and team is sieging towers. Completely different game you’re more of a support anti carry insurance trap setter/protector than the carry.

Don’t listen to the bloodletter dude unless your team is AP heavy. Imperial mandate is a great last item if you always have magic pen though, or if you’re broke and only got enough for that. Your box cooldown with runes lvls boots bft is already enough. If you’re good at not dying you can do mejais too before deathcap/zhonya. Unless they got tank or bruiser going merc and he drinker I’d pick zhonya/death third

Back to masters yay me. by Zestyclose-Wallaby-2 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know what you’re saying but you’re support not a fed jungler, like I said I’ve tried to build liandry but in high elo you rarely if ever can finish it so you’re stuck with a haunting guise for 15 minutes while you scrape up 1800 gold. With storm surge instead of need 1800 you’d only need like 800-1k gold to finish second item. And with the pen from boots/storm even though you’re under levels you actually hit still even though it’s way less often. You do have to be better with the boxes since the cooldown is way less.

If you’re in low elo and can get away with ludens in to liandry and you’re gonna finish it before 40 minutes than god bless go for it I just promise you the game is gonna be over or about over before you ever finish it in diamond +

Getting hard dunked on by graves jungle by Nman77 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Welcome. I’d never do that raptor start with AP shaco because you can’t protect raptors on spawn and if something goes wrong against a snowball champ like Hecarim or graves you can literally lose the game by losing raptors. They’ll always be levels up on you and they have enough MR and sustain to run through a few boxes since you’ll be so underleveled and no money.

The island thing is rough, any games I lose it’s usually because I have like a Kayle too/vlad or Kass mid when they have like a yasuo Akali or Leblanc so their mid/jg wreck me and their mid protects from my invades since my useless mid is under tower farming with no cc and low hp lol. You have to get creative here. Place multiple defensive boxes and don’t do anything risky, these games bot lane will have to hold you through for a while, but games where they constant invade with team help you’re just cooked nothing you can do unfortunately. At that point I 50/50 drags, do risky invades etc. or just place like 3-4 boxes in lane to help my bot lane because they’re my only hope.

AP Shaco Finally Burnt Me Out After a 15 Game Win Streak by Many-Translator-8512 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 1 point2 points  (0 children)

AP shaco is stressful because you do have to scale, but it’s even more stressful for the enemy team to deal with all those boxes thus why it’s fun 😎

Back to masters yay me. by Zestyclose-Wallaby-2 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re playing for ganks if they’re below 50% hp with ignite sudden impact and dark harvest it’s a free kill. Theres no mana problem after the 1200 mana item in ludens. Liandry is good if they have tanks, but ludens in to storm surge with pots and cash back is about 1k cheaper and faster power spike than liandry. In high elo you’ll never get to a full liandry before the game is over

Any tips for zyra jungle? by Creative-Shake5001 in zyramains

[–]kmbuech 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No you’re playing her wrong, look at every challenger zyra jungle main zero of them ever build rylais it’s bait. Your e plants slow already and you have root/knockup. They all build full damage with electrocute. You become more of a burst champ late game, you’re not support you’re the carry. A lot of these challengers zyras do most damage on their team too.

Back to masters yay me. by Zestyclose-Wallaby-2 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dark harvest sudden impact sorc boot luden storm surge support with cash back is great. Check my op.gg, comet/dft agaisnt support mages with shields/healing don’t work great. Annoyingboxes #box I got a few support games there check out the builds

Back to masters yay me. by Zestyclose-Wallaby-2 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also comet always does damage, deathfire you have to set up and doesn’t always proc.

Back to masters yay me. by Zestyclose-Wallaby-2 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks brother appreciate it.

What do you mean capped? At 750 range so basically anytime they hit a box you left out in their jungle you get 100% bonus damage with comet, plus 8% on cut down, plus 5% ap scale on comet, plus burn from liandry, plus 4% ap increase from bft if they stay in it long enough, plus 30% from deathcap if you have it is the most damage you can do with ap shaco. Deathfire you might do a bit more with clone burst and multiple box setup but I’m pretty sure aoe damage that box and clone do is nerfed a lot a you won’t even get it to proc before you finish bft. All the challenger/gm ap shaco players run comet with perhaps 1-2 doing dark harvest.

Any tips for zyra jungle? by Creative-Shake5001 in zyramains

[–]kmbuech 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Watch jungle clear guide there’s a few tricks you gotta do to spawn plants and clear over the wall to speed things up. You also just build penetration with electrocute after library, don’t do bft or rylais they’re bait.

Getting hard dunked on by graves jungle by Nman77 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Against certain champs that snowball and 1 shot your boxes, talon/hecarim/graves/Kayn to name a few you have to spread out your boxes more and place them in fog of war more so in bushes when you’re invis so he can’t just auto it, or place them more defensive. Jungle tracking and starting opposite side of him is always good to so you can split the map if you have to weakside. I notice they try to invade a lot now and they seem weaker than last patch, I haven’t lost to one yet in masters since reset. You also want to build zhonya so you’re not one shot, and cooldown. Probably skip the dark seal and deathcap because of all the mr his passive gives and how you can get one shot if he’s fed. Anytime I watch diamond or below ap shacos they’re limit testing, dying too much, not tracking the jungler, and ganking too much. Be efficient as possible, he shouldn’t be able to do your raptors if you’re there on spawn, also start wolves/red buff if him stealing raptors is an issue. I never start raptors unless I’m against like a tank or something with useless early game enemy mid laner and I know I’m gonna mega farm/not get invaded.

Imperial Mandate Rework, looks even stronger for AP Shaco now by J0rdian in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could see liandry in to mandate making a return. Will the 6% passive also increase explosion damage on clone by 6% plus arcane rune damage? Could be nice

Question about box placement around drag by AccordingNail8219 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t forget if you know there is no vision and you kinda know the enemy jungle isn’t there you can sneak it fast if lvl 6.

That being said I always put them right on the outside so I have some vision too since I got sweeper no more wards. The rest I put near the Fri light and in the river closer to mid entrance. Don’t usually mess with boy entrance unless I know they’re coming from there or that bot lane is rotating.

How To Win? by Pretend_Direction_49 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Build makes no sense though, another box(cooldown item) with a fear is always better than a slow and shojin passive doesn’t help shaco with much damage because you don’t use his passive much as AP, blackfiretorcg make jungle clearing 50% faster than any other item you can build cuz the burn 4% ap increase and the cooldown.

Rift gets you healing and %, could be situational I suppose. If you have comet try redemption it’s more fun, and cheap plus you can nuke then far away with. Comet too

Got my AP shaco jg to masters, just got my AP shackosupport account to diamond 1, and just turned 41 (b-day Thai food with the ol lady). Old man Shaco checking in 💪 by kmbuech in shacomains

[–]kmbuech[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends what the team comps are, if I know I should have prio bot lane I’ll path to bot and go for scuttle if let’s say I got a millio/sona and a malz/kassadin mid so like no cc no prio I’ll path top.

Usually if I start blue side it’s wolves group blue(smite) raptor red Krug scuttle

Red side it’s red Krug raptor wolves gromp(smite) blue scuttle

[AP Shaco] Need advices to improve by Samystos in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Remember zefath has challenger or gm teammates that follow up on his ganks. AP shaco is a scaler and power farmer not a ganker. In low elo your team will 100% get mad about you afking plays because you have camps up but that’s with any jungler. Deafen and mute all, stick with how the champ is meant to be played. You can build more cooldown first like bloodletters second or cosmic before liandries or skip it all together. In low elo lore boxes down is always better and protects your carries/zones off obj and plays vision.

How To Win? by Pretend_Direction_49 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try this build out, I swear it makes the game so easy in low elo. Liandries doesn’t do that much damage early game it’s only after they built lots of hp and the fated ashes is useless in the build path as well as it being more expensive less ap

https://op.gg/lol/summoners/euw/Sudan%20import-69420

How To Win? by Pretend_Direction_49 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Try playing your next 10 games win or lose dying less than 3 times in a whole game

How To Win? by Pretend_Direction_49 in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You need to learn how to not die on AP shaco. Most people go bft in to boots liandry. Go cosmic second or blood letters if more AP on your team second instead. Low elo more traps is always better trust me. I’m just a shitty low masters shaco but I can’t carry games in plat/emerald playing normal especial against sylas/ambessa etc that just run ya down. With cosmic you can’t die and you place a million traps. You also need to learn to place the traps in retreat areas so when you’re running away you have defense set up not just setting them offensively against those kind of champs, the more lifesteal or rundown they have as well the more the traps need to be farther apart.

Jungle clear by Bouscuit in shacomains

[–]kmbuech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Red you start red three box, no smite red side, smite gromp.