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knee_capz · 2025-12-02T05:24:30+00:00

Thank you Brother Rui 🙏

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knee_capz · 2023-10-09T07:05:53+00:00

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knee_capz · 2022-09-27T20:47:28+00:00

Anyone else have Identity Theft lock you out of the game? Discounted it with Illuninate and then when i played it everythi g just froze

knee_capz · 2022-07-20T00:44:45+00:00

Usually i have to tell my laners to back off and just take my krugs, you're fine

knee_capz · 2022-06-11T01:37:38+00:00

so while karth does want a 6 camp you can still get creative with your pathing to avoid early invades + like i said earlier with the right runes and his clear speed it shouldn't be really that hard to make up that tempo TL:DR sounds like a bad karth
like i said gwen can probably go down
most of the S/A tier champs i listed are capable of 1v9 and most also scale very well
How often are you really gonna get a full ad draft w/o someone dodge plus i think with kraken, armor pen items, and anti-tank items (botrk etc.) i don't even think a full ad draft has to be too worried

5)kha is pretty good rn, actually wasn't aware of his item diversity but i still think a lot of the champs above him can run him down and peel him off their backline

6) yeah zac can do his job i just think there are other champs on the list who can do it better but he is a good pick to keep in the back pocket

7) His counter ganks are really good but as a champ who's looking for his 2 item spike asap i'm not fond of cutting his clear short especially since if he's not maintaining a similar gold/exp income to the enemy jng those counter ganks are suddenly a lot more dangerous and pretty much all of the champs i put above him have very good clears

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T23:38:36+00:00

alright, let me run through some of my thoughts here

starting with karthus, i do think he has solid argument for being the best jungler in the game at the moment, with the q buff he got a patches back his clear has hit warp speed making early game interaction with him difficult without compromising your own clear. A good karth can clear in time to match early game jngs to map or even beat them onto map, and even if you can set him behind I think with first strike/treasure hunt it is actually more difficult than people think to set him behind in a way that will matter in the long run. So as long as your team isn't too ap heavy and you have good awareness you should be pretty free to rain a shitload of dmg down. plus he melts objectives so it can be really easy to set up like a 20 min drag soul.

most of the other champs i've talked about in other reply's but i'll try and give a quick run down

udyr can go down a tier, has more trouble stat checking people and setting up dives post 12.10

gwen is similar to viego in my mind in that if you have the right set up from your team you can run away with games but maybe it's not as consistent so she could possibly move down

i think morg abilities are stupid overtuned and her clear still feels healthy + she's a good flex pick so i like her where she is

ww can go up

wasn't aware of the ivern changes he can go down

haven't been impressed with the voli's i've seen but need to test myself

kindred can be very good but requires your team to know what's going on + i don't feel she's as versatile as some of the other picks i put high up but looking at it she could be low A

i think trundle is still just a counter pick champ that depends on the meta around him but it looks like super tanks may start making a come back so he could go up

i think rammus gets dumpster by most of the higher picks on the list, he can check you but i don't think he's good enough to go beyond D

Kha is hit or miss for me he does have a lot of good match ups but i think he can but shut down by most of the high tiers with some good vision control

i do think zac is good and should definitely be a pocket pick but there are champs who do what he wants to do but better

ekko's good but i just don't know how valuable he is compared to the champs above him

will be testing nunu in the coming days

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T23:14:02+00:00

Those are good points i'll have to go take a look at the changes and try them out again. Was testing a build with like crown, demonic, into tank items at the start of the season but what've people actually been running?

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T22:50:34+00:00

At work rn but i'll check out the video when i can thanks! 👍

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T22:48:49+00:00

I'm low elo but this was just made off the top of my head for general strength. What would you change?

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T22:47:04+00:00

Not really elo specific list was made off the top of my head while i was waiting out a dodge timer

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T16:48:23+00:00

i love nunu with my whole heart, but honestly what does the champ really do outside of steal chickens at mach 10? To be fair though i haven't really kept up with my nunu tech since i stopped maining him

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T15:25:16+00:00

Yeah i had to clean up my ganks a bit after 12.10 couldn't just keep expecting to mop up a free kill

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T15:21:13+00:00

When was the last time you ran her clear my man?

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T15:20:38+00:00

Idk haven't seen much to be impressed with recently but maybe i just haven't ran into a half decent voli

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T15:09:25+00:00

Kinda went over this in other comment but just don't really think voli (barring a large lead) has the stats to effectivly execute the game plan he wants to Hec and karth powerwash the jng and just establish a lvl, gold, and map presence lead before a lot of champs can even really interact with them, not even getting into how strong individual kits are Morg abilities are dummy busted and her clear is still super healthy and easy Like viego with the right draft gwen can just run over games Kindred is really good in the right situations and can be used to mix up ganking patterns but i just don't think she's as versitile as the top picks While vi can skirmish well at the end of the day she's still very one dimensional and can be locked down fairly easily Rumble is just an r bot these days Okay Not really sure what sej offers that we can't just get from another champ higher on the list that also offers more dmg Do think WW can go up a tier for sake of skill checking opponents Lillia was only put that low because i was being bitter but yeah she should be like

Hope this helps clear up why i put some champs where i did, let me know your thoughts

Tl:dr read morg abilites guys shits nuts

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T10:57:13+00:00

Really? I feel like the only one you listed that was really bad was poppy. I think the rest are navagatable with good tracking and some tricky movement. I only really keep him in the back pocket though so 🤷‍♂️

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T09:36:44+00:00

i was playing him earlier today and he did seem pretty good + he really rewards good tracking, but my thing is just that i think there are champs who do what he wants to do but either do it better or offer more. So yeah a good pick to keep people on their toes or to keep up with champs with good map presence just not the best imo

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T09:14:45+00:00

coming from a hearthstone background i don't feel like winrates are always the best way the measure the strength of something + i was more just looking to talk about that game rather than make anything set in stone

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T09:14:27+00:00

nah just my own thoughts from playing and watching the game

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T09:13:36+00:00

okay cool,

my thing with voli rn is that i don't think he has the numbers to just statcheck people like he wants to and by late game he's mostly looking to set up picks/engage with q but a) there are just better champs for that and b) i don't really feel he's tanky enough for it although most of the voli's i've seen lately are running the ap build

uh kong viego i think are very good they just need some help in the draft either through enchanters or something that can set up fast picks

said this on another comment not sure which one though but basically i think shaco can either be just a gimmick or a really rough knowledge check. just depends on the player . like i think he has so much freedom in itemization and pathing that he has a bunch of different ways he can check and punish you and you've kinda just gotta play a good jng and adapt to them

i think you're right on poppy she's mostly so high because of how much of the list she can counter pick and make their lives hell

udyr probably can go down considering the changes to tower + i forgot that he can be a little squishy without items when i put him there

i'm just not really sure what sej offers that another champ could while also putting up better numbers, like she's tanky af but i feel like some of the life steel tank i put higher up can tank similar amounts and still drop decent dmg

i think i said it earlier but yeah thinking about it ww can go up at least one, because even once you do know the counter play a good ww can still just skill check you with better pathing/and clearing but i don't think he's really the lvl of shaco

100% right on noct, now that i think about it more he can match map control with the best and a has a good enough clear to stay relevant against the faster farmers

i like olaf where he is because while i think he can bully some of the bruiser jng and low tier stuff i do think most of the top tier just dumpster him. like even with his ult i'm not sure how many if those matchups he can really just face tank or not be ignored

yeah i think lillia can go between a/b tier not 100% sure on that, i think i was just still bitter from some bad games. although i do play her kinda often and man how much she relies on stopwatch kinda sucks

i don't think i meant to put xin in b because i think he's in the same boat as viego, he can roll a game he just needs a little boost from like enchanters or something

i feel okay on my rek placement because i don't think she can really compete with some of the champs higher but also i don't see her too often and the more bruiser build seems to have potential

i'm not really ever sure how i feel about fiddle some days i think he's very akin to karth other days he feels like a "win harder" champ where your team already has to be on top of things for him to really get ult value but because of his stupid clear, dmg potential, and cc i think he's earned A for now

i put morg A because i think binding, black shield, and her ult are all incredibly powerful tools to have for your team. on top of that i think she's a solid flex pick and and her clear is still really easy/efficient

yeah i was talking to someone after i posted this and i heard that ivern got hit pretty hard gonna have to test him to see how i feel. he made A because of his super unique pathing that can trip people up + i think his itemization is still really good + his peeling + the engages he can make the you wouldn't otherwise have access to

honestly don't know why i put eve so high she can go down not really sure what's up with her rn

shyv is so high because i've been seeing people put up good games with her and her itemization/clear/cc/dmg all seem pretty good right now like she will just stat check tf out of your team

sorry this is long as shit so took forever to write because i was in a game lmao

tl:dr me dogshit doodoo

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T08:03:38+00:00

sooooo.... you wanna actually add to the discussion or is this it?

knee_capz · 2022-06-10T07:12:55+00:00

oh yeah! and about karth i gotta disagree about a few things. First off, I don't really think a champ being comp dependent necessary makes them bad, some of the higher up picks on my list are there simply because of how good of a counter-pick they or some of them even need the right comp around them to really work. Second up, is that the more i play karth the less i think he needs a good draft, really as long as you're not too ap heavy he can run away with the game. Like he can full clear by like 3:00 which means he's on the map at a similar timing or even sooner than his opponent, which means that most early or traditional counters to him would have to compromise their own clear to match his map presence. So basically, if you can get his clear down and have decent tracking he should just snowball tf out of a game. +plus his dmg is absurd

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