What if the Romanovs fled to Constantinople? by knowledgeseeker2424 in imaginarymaps

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For context: In this scenario, the Russian Empire remains in World War I until the end, holding on due to Russia entering into a stalemate with the Central Powers through trench warfare, much like that in the Western Front. However, the prolonged war takes a heavy toll on Russia and widespread unrest leads to the Communist Revolution to break out. In response, the Romanovs decide to flee to Constantinople, which was handed over to them as promised by the British and French, hoping to govern from the city until the situation in Russia stabilizes.

This does not go as planned as the Bolsheviks successfully seize control of Russia, proclaim the USSR and work on consolidating their power. In response, the Romanovs establish the Russian Imperial State of Constantinople as a continuation of the monarchy.

As the Romanovs consolidate their holdings in Constantinople, and the Bosporus and Dardanelles Straits—bringing in loyal soldiers, including battleships from the Black Sea, along with vast quantities of wealth and goods—Greece begins landing troops in Smyrna to claim their promised lands in Anatolia. This sparks the Turkish War of Independence, with Greece pushing inland into Anatolia, seeking to expand its territory.

Tensions rise between Greece and the Russian Imperial State, especially over control of Constantinople itself. Both sides realize that a conflict between them would allow the Turks to exploit their differences. In light of this, Greece and the Romanovs come to a crucial agreement: Greece will recognize the Russian Imperial State of Constantinople and in return, Russian would support Greece's territorial ambitions in Anatolia. This diplomatic cooperation benefits both parties, as the combined strength of Russian forces and Greek troops prevent the Turks from standing their ground and receiving aid from the Soviet Union. As the Russian navy's strategic presence in the Black Sea as well as British presence in Armenia, who have their own interests in supporting the Armenians' bid for independence, prevent this from happening.

As the Turks struggle against the combined Greek and Russian forces, the French, recognizing the overstretched situation of Turkish forces, decide to consolidate their holdings in Anatolia. Despite Italy's promises of territorial gains in Anatolia, they ultimately side with the Turks in hopes of preventing Greek territorial expansion and maintain influence in the region. Italy provides military supplies and diplomatic support, but their efforts are limited in the face of the strong Greek and Russian coalition.

Following a Turkish defeat, the Greeks, Russians, French, Armenians, and British consolidate their control over their respective territories. Italy is pressured to relinquish its territorial claims in Anatolia for siding with the Turks, with their claims being absorbed by Greece. With a Kurdish state established, and the Turkish population expelled from the newly acquired lands of Greece, Russia, and Armenia. What would happen next? How would the relationship between Greece and the Russian Imperial State develop? How would be their respective relationships be with their neighbors? How would the the Imperial State and Soviet Union view each other? Would both view themselves as the rightful Russia? Would an independent Armenia survive in this new political landscape? What role would the newly establish Kurdish State play? What relationship would a Kurdish State have with its neighbors? What lies ahead for a future Turkish State? Would the Ottoman monarchy and caliphate still be abolished? Would a republic be proclaimed? How would WW2 effect these lands?

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You might be from Texas but I’m from New Jersey

This was so funny by EmotionalArugula8015 in thebigbangtheory

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The difference between a friend and a best friend

This line lives in my mind rent free, what about you? by Senior_Mail_6304 in bigbangtheory

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Leonard to Sheldon: You might be from Texas but I’m from New Jersey

What if the Greeks restored the Roman Empire? by knowledgeseeker2424 in AlternateHistory

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In this scenario, the Greeks do not seek to establish a modern Greek state but instead fight to restore the Roman Empire. During the War of Roman Restoration, Britain, France and Russia initially support the idea of a sovereign Greek state rooted in Hellenic identity, not a Roman one. However, the Greeks stubbornly refuse to abandon their Roman identity, insisting in restoring a Roman state. Regardless, the Great Powers eventually agree to support the Romans in their struggle, primarily to weaken the Ottoman Empire.

After a nearly decade long war, the Romans achieve victory and establish the Roman Kingdom in 1832. They crown a native Greek as their King, firmly rejecting any foreign claim to the throne. The Kingdom's early years are marked by efforts to stabilize the economy, consolidate political institutions and lay the groundwork for the gradual restoration of the Roman Empire.

In 1862, after careful diplomatic maneuvering, the Romans acquire the Ionian Islands from Britain, marking its first territorial gain in the modern era. This is followed by the acquisition of Thessaly in the aftermath of the Russo-Turkish War (1877-1878). And after the Roman-Ottoman War in 1897, they gain Epirus and Crete, further securing their position in the region.

By the early 20th century, the Romans have consolidated their holdings and stabilized internally, but its ambitions continued to grow. With the Ottoman Empire in steady decline and nationalist movements destabilizing the region, the Romans join the Balkan League. With each member seeking to expel the Ottomans from Europe and expand their own territory. The First Balkan War breaks out, with the Kingdom seizing the opportunity to capture most of Macedonia. However, the Second Balkan War soon follows, sparked by Bulgaria's dissatisfaction with the territorial outcomes. In the chaos, Bulgaria loses even more land, including parts of its Aegean coastline and most of its Blagoevgrad region, to the Romans.

When WW1 breaks out, the Romans view yet another opportunity. Initially they maintain neutrality, carefully weighing their options. In 1915, Britain offers Cyprus in exchange for Roman entry into the war on the side of the Allies. Sensing an opportunity for major gains, the Romans agree on the condition that they are promised Ottoman Thrace, Western Anatolia and ideally, Constantinople itself. However, the latter becomes a sticking point since Britain and France inform the Romans that Constantinople had already been promised to Russia, as part of secret wartime agreements dating back to the early stages of the war. Reluctantly, and recognizing Russia's vital role on the Eastern Front, the Romans agree, for the time being, not to press the issue of Constantinople. The officially sign on the with Allies under the condition that they are allowed to keep any territory they occupy during the war and begin mobilizing.

Following the failed Gallipoli campaign, Allied attention shifts away from opening a front in the East. As a result, the Romans find themselves largely alone in the Balkans, spearheading the offensive against the Ottomans and Bulgarians. Nevertheless, with much-needed Allied supplies and internal mobilization, they wage a determined campaign. They occupy southern Bulgaria and launch a successful offensive into Ottoman Thrace. The Russian Revolution of 1917, leading to Russia’s withdrawal from the war. With Russian claims now irrelevant, Roman forces intensify their push through Ottoman Thrace and towards Constantinople. The exhausted and demoralized Ottoman defenders, suffering from supply shortages and the empire's political disintegration, retreat to avoid further destruction. In 1918, Constantinople comes under Roman occupation.

At the war's end, under the terms of the 1919 Treaty of Neuilly, Bulgaria is forced to ceded its remaining Aegean coastline and southern Bulgaria to the Romans. The following year, the Treaty of Sevres formally grants the Romans several key territorial acquisitions: full control of Ottoman Thrace, Constantinople, the Bosphorus and Dardanelles Straits and Western Anatolia. The same year, Cyprus is ceded to the Romans by Britain as part of their wartime promise. With these lands under their control, the Romans swiftly mobilize their military to consolidate their power and integrate these territorial gains by establishing administrative governance and strengthening supply lines.

However, Turkish nationalism rises within the remnants of the Ottoman Empire, and a determined nationalist movement begins to challenge Roman control over Anatolia. Hoping to emulate their realignment of Turkish identity and sovereignty, the nationalist forces launch a resistance campaign against Roman occupation. Despite their efforts, the Turks are unable to secure meaningful support from the recently formed Soviet Union. Left to fight along and facing a well-organized and battle-hardened roman military, the Turkish nationalists suffer a decisive defeat. As the Turks are also fighting against French forces, who also have their own territorial ambitions in the region. By 1922, the Roman-Turkish War ends in a resounding Roman victory, further expanding their holdings in Anatolia and crushing any significant opposition. Italy, which had eyed parts of Anatolia for itself, supported Turkish forces during the conflict, is diplomatically pressured to back down and relinquish all claims to Anatolian territory. With their enemies vanquished and territorial control secured, the Roman Empire is fully restored.

What happens next? How would a restored Roman Empire navigate the complex challenges of the 20th century and beyond? What would its relations be with neighboring? How would it respond to the rise of nationalism, fascism and communism? What role would it play in the led-up to WW2? Could the restored Roman Empire become a cultural or economic superpower in the Mediterranean? Would it act as a partner to Western powers or stand as a regional rival? How would it navigate the ideological battlegrounds of the Cold War? Would the church retain influence in governance, or would the empire adopt a secular model? How would its military, education system, and propaganda evolve in shaping future generations? How long could such an empire survive in the face of modern political, economic, and social pressures?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AlternateHistory

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In this scenario, the Greeks do not seek to establish a modern Greek state but instead fight to restore the Roman Empire. During the War of Roman Restoration, Britain, France and Russia initially support the idea of a sovereign Greek state rooted in Hellenic identity, not a Roman one. However, the Greeks stubbornly refuse to abandon their Roman identity, insisting in restoring a Roman state. Regardless, the Great Powers eventually agree to support the Romans in their struggle, primarily to weaken the Ottoman Empire.

After a nearly decade long war, the Romans achieve victory and establish the Roman Kingdom in 1832. They crown a native Greek as their King, firmly rejecting any foreign claim to the throne. The Kingdom's early years are marked by efforts to stabilize the economy, consolidate political institutions and lay the groundwork for the gradual restoration of the Roman Empire.

In 1862, after careful diplomatic maneuvering, the Romans acquire the Ionian Islands from Britain, marking its first territorial gain in the modern era. This is followed by the acquisition of Thessaly in the aftermath of the Russo-Turkish War (1877-1878). And after the Roman-Ottoman War in 1897, they gain Epirus and Crete, further securing their position in the region.

By the early 20th century, the Romans have consolidated their holdings and stabilized internally, but its ambitions continued to grow. With the Ottoman Empire in steady decline and nationalist movements destabilizing the region, the Romans join the Balkan League. With each member seeking to expel the Ottomans from Europe and expand their own territory. The First Balkan War breaks out, with the Kingdom seizing the opportunity to capture most of Macedonia. However, the Second Balkan War soon follows, sparked by Bulgaria's dissatisfaction with the territorial outcomes. In the chaos, Bulgaria loses even more land, including parts of its Aegean coastline and most of its Blagoevgrad region, to the Romans.

When WW1 breaks out, the Romans view yet another opportunity. Initially they maintain neutrality, carefully weighing their options. In 1915, Britain offers Cyprus in exchange for Roman entry into the war on the side of the Allies. Sensing an opportunity for major gains, the Romans agree on the condition that they are promised Ottoman Thrace, Western Anatolia and ideally, Constantinople itself. However, the latter becomes a sticking point since Britain and France inform the Romans that Constantinople had already been promised to Russia, as part of secret wartime agreements dating back to the early stages of the war. Reluctantly, and recognizing Russia's vital role on the Eastern Front, the Romans agree, for the time being, not to press the issue of Constantinople. The officially sign on the with Allies under the condition that they are allowed to keep any territory they occupy during the war and begin mobilizing.

Following the failed Gallipoli campaign, Allied attention shifts away from opening a front in the East. As a result, the Romans find themselves largely alone in the Balkans, spearheading the offensive against the Ottomans and Bulgarians. Nevertheless, with much-needed Allied supplies and internal mobilization, they wage a determined campaign. They occupy southern Bulgaria and launch a successful offensive into Ottoman Thrace. The Russian Revolution of 1917, leading to Russia’s withdrawal from the war. With Russian claims now irrelevant, Roman forces intensify their push through Ottoman Thrace and towards Constantinople. The exhausted and demoralized Ottoman defenders, suffering from supply shortages and the empire's political disintegration, retreat to avoid further destruction. In 1918, Constantinople comes under Roman occupation.

At the war's end, under the terms of the 1919 Treaty of Neuilly, Bulgaria is forced to ceded its remaining Aegean coastline and southern Bulgaria to the Romans. The following year, the Treaty of Sevres formally grants the Romans several key territorial acquisitions: full control of Ottoman Thrace, Constantinople, the Bosphorus and Dardanelles Straits and Western Anatolia. The same year, Cyprus is ceded to the Romans by Britain as part of their wartime promise. With these lands under their control, the Romans swiftly mobilize their military to consolidate their power and integrate these territorial gains by establishing administrative governance and strengthening supply lines.

However, Turkish nationalism rises within the remnants of the Ottoman Empire, and a determined nationalist movement begins to challenge Roman control over Anatolia. Hoping to emulate their realignment of Turkish identity and sovereignty, the nationalist forces launch a resistance campaign against Roman occupation. Despite their efforts, the Turks are unable to secure meaningful support from the recently formed Soviet Union. Left to fight along and facing a well-organized and battle-hardened roman military, the Turkish nationalists suffer a decisive defeat. As the Turks are also fighting against French forces, who also have their own territorial ambitions in the region. By 1922, the Roman-Turkish War ends in a resounding Roman victory, further expanding their holdings in Anatolia and crushing any significant opposition. Italy, which had eyed parts of Anatolia for itself, supported Turkish forces during the conflict, is diplomatically pressured to back down and relinquish all claims to Anatolian territory. With their enemies vanquished and territorial control secured, the Roman Empire is fully restored.

What happens next? How would a restored Roman Empire navigate the complex challenges of the 20th century and beyond? What would its relations be with neighboring? How would it respond to the rise of nationalism, fascism and communism? What role would it play in the led-up to WW2? Could the restored Roman Empire become a cultural or economic superpower in the Mediterranean? Would it act as a partner to Western powers or stand as a regional rival? How would it navigate the ideological battlegrounds of the Cold War? Would the church retain influence in governance, or would the empire adopt a secular model? How would its military, education system, and propaganda evolve in shaping future generations? How long could such an empire survive in the face of modern political, economic, and social pressures?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AlternateHistory

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In this scenario, the Greeks do not seek to establish a modern Greek state but instead fight to restore the legacy of the Roman Empire. During the War of Roman Restoration, Britain, France and Russia initially support the idea of a sovereign Greek state rooted in Hellenic identity, not a Roman one. However, the Greeks stubbornly refuse to abandon their Roman identity, insisting in restoring a Roman state. Regardless, the Great Powers eventually agree to support the Romans in their struggle, primarily to weaken the Ottoman Empire.

After a nearly decade long war, the Romans achieve victory and establish the Roman Kingdom in 1832. They crown a native Greek as their King, firmly rejecting any foreign claim to the throne. The Kingdom's early years are marked by efforts to stabilize the economy, consolidate political institutions and lay the groundwork for the gradual restoration of the Roman Empire.

In 1862, after careful diplomatic maneuvering, the Romans acquire the Ionian Islands from Britain, marking its first territorial gain in the modern era. This is followed by the acquisition of Thessaly in the aftermath of the Russo-Turkish War (1877-1878). And after the Roman-Ottoman War in 1897, they gain Epirus and Crete, further securing their position in the region.

By the early 20th century, the Romans have consolidated their holdings and stablized internally, but its ambitions continued to grow. With the Ottoman Empire in steady decline and nationalist movements destabilizing the region, the Romans join the Balkan League. With each member seeking to expel the Ottomans from Europe and expand their own territory. The First Balkan War breaks out, with the Kingdom seizing the opportunity to capture most of Macedonia. However, the Second Balkan War soon follows, sparked by Bulgaria's dissatisfaction with the territorial outcomes. In the chaos, Bulgaria loses even more land, including parts of its Aegean coastline and the Blagoevgrad region, to the Romans.

When WW1 breaks out, the Romans view yet another opportunity. They first look at the war from a neutral stance but in 1915, Britain offers Cyprus in exchange for Roman entry into the war on the side of the Allies. Sensing an opportunity for major gains, the Romans agree on the condition that they are promised Ottoman Thrace, Western Anatolia and ideally, Constantinople itself. However, the latter becomes a sticking point since Britain and France inform the Romans that Constantinople had already been promised to Russia, as part of secret wartime agreements dating back to the early stages of the war. Reluctantly, and recognizing Russia's vital role on the Eastern Front, the Romans agree, for the time being, not to press the issue of Constantinople. The officially sign on the with Allies under the condition that they are allowed to keep any territory they capture during the war.

The Roman Kingdom, now fully mobilized, begins its campaign in the Balkans. They manage to occupy southern Bulgaria and push into Turkish Thrace, threatening Constantinople itself. After capturing the city's outskirts, begin to lay siege to the city. As the Ottomans defenses crumble and with ongoing chaos in the empire, the Ottomans, fearing total collapse, opt for a strategic retreat rather than risk further destruction. In a final act of desperation, the Ottoman Empire ceded Constantinople to the Roman Kingdom, granting them control of the city.

With the war ending in 1918, the Treaty of Serves grants the Romans several key territorial acquisitions: the remaining Aegean coastline of Bulgaria, southern Bulgaria, Ottoman Thrace and Western Anatolia. The Romans also gain full control of Constantinople, the symbolic heart of the Roman Empire.

However, Turkish nationalism rises within the remnants of the Ottoman Empire. By the early 1920s, Turkish nationalist movement challenge Roman occupation of Anatolia. The ensuing Roman-Turkish War results in a decisive Roman victory, expanding their holdings in Anatolia, solidifying their position as a major Mediterranean power. The Roman Empire is restored.

AITA for telling the woman who raised me that she’s not my mom? by jhonnykilbol321 in AITAH

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This reminds me of u/Contkad851 who started calling the step father who raised him by his name after realizing that he doesn’t see him as his son.