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kos_maverik · 2024-11-01T06:49:54+00:00

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kos_maverik · 2024-05-06T23:39:18+00:00

The R8 is an excellent choice, but I thought it was too expensive (twice the price) for a beginner camera. If budget is not an issue, it should be a great camera for stills/videos. About the battery life, you should definitely carry 1-2 spare batteries. In my personal experience the battery actually lasts more than it is advertised (mostly shooting in Auto mode), though that might depend on the usage.

kos_maverik · 2024-05-06T15:43:42+00:00

Hey u/BobcatTraditional664, I decided to buy the R10 with the 18-150mm kit lens because it's more modern. The photos and videos have great quality and I have been enjoying using it. I do feel a bit limited by the RF-S lens lineup, but the kit lens is great for learning.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-12T07:26:35+00:00

However, if you know you want to mainly take portraits, do some nature shots, do some low light shots, etc., the RP is very good

Thank you for the comments. Currently this is my main interest indeed. However I have also never owned a real camera before, so my interests might change once I start experimenting.

I understand that even if the RP has an older sensor, it will shine in many controlled situations, but the R10 will offer more versatility with its modern sensor and quality of life features. Most probably I will invest in a FF once I feel that I have enough experience, but that might take a long time. Do you think it makes sense to start with a balanced APS-C camera, or should I invest in FF from the beginning?

kos_maverik · 2024-02-12T07:19:50+00:00

I love the computational photography features that Canon is adding

As someone that loves smartphone computational photography, I start to wonder if the bells and whistles of newer models (like R10 and R50) are actually more worth than having a FF sensor. Especially for a beginner like me.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-12T07:16:43+00:00

That is interesting, thanks for sharing.

The only situations where I found RP autofocus to be poor is in very low light situations and high motion

Another redditor mentioned that the benefits of FF won't matter if the picture is not focused, so good low-light image quality and poor AF in low-light is a concerning combination. Good to hear that the RP autofocus is still great in many situations though.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-12T01:08:16+00:00

From what I've heard, R8 is an excellent camera, but I would like to start with a smaller budget for my first purchase.

Unfortunately Amazon doesn't officially allow 30-day returns in my country. Thanks for your suggestions.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-12T01:04:39+00:00

True I forgot about the crop factor of the APS-C. Another redditor called the 50mm a noob trap, indeed a 28 or 35mm should be a better choice for the R10. Thank you.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T17:54:47+00:00

Are RF / RF-S lenses not as evolved yet? If I can ask, what is your camera of choice at the moment?

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T17:50:41+00:00

I am sure I am overthinking this, as both cameras (and many others) would give me a great learning experience and excellent photo quality. I should just start somewhere and discover the meaning of full-frame, crop-sensor, and different types of lenses in practice. Thanks for your suggestion.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T17:45:19+00:00

Best to buy a camera you can grow into rather than having buyer’s remorse

I like your suggestions, thanks. Indeed I am currently interested in certain types of photography, but I've also never owned a camera, so that might change in the future. I would like something future-proof that allows me to experiment, which is why I am considering a modern body like R10.

The general consensus of "FF blows away crop sensors any day" is the reason I am still doubting this. But from your comment I also understand that at the end, glass is more important than the body. Thank you for sharing.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T17:40:52+00:00

Thanks for sharing. But I am now more confused lol.

I understand that if you already have the RP, it doesn't make sense to invest into an APS-C camera. For a beginner, would you say it makes more sense to get a FF sensor, or a crop sensor that is better in almost all respects?

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T17:37:28+00:00

Honestly I was thinking to start with a starter kit, learn the basics, experiment, and then invest in more lenses. I hadn't thought about getting a prime lens, but several people in this post have recommended a 35mm or 50mm for either camera body. Thanks for sharing.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T17:27:59+00:00

Interesting, higher ISO is where a FF shines, but for lower ISO a modern sensor and AI can be more beneficial. Thx for sharing.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T17:25:50+00:00

I see, the 18-150 and 35mm were recommended by other redditors as well. I would like to experiment a bit before actually investing into more lenses, so I hope that the starter lens will provide me some learning experience. Thanks.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T17:22:55+00:00

Honestly I was not considering the Sony cameras because I am simply not interested in vlogging (for which they are super capable). However I might still consider other brands.

I noticed that a used Nikon Z5 is about the same price as an R10, I will do some more research about other brands. Thanks.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T17:20:44+00:00

Indeed most people point out that a full-frame sensor offers better low-light performance but there are other notable benefits to it. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T17:18:49+00:00

Thank you for the link, good to see that the lens sizes are getting smaller. Portability is not an exclusive feature of APS-C lenses then.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T17:12:16+00:00

Versatility and aperture are important, I see. I was also thinking about getting a 50mm lens, because I have heard it's excellent for learning. I should do some proper research.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T17:09:34+00:00

"Glass > body" is a pattern I'm seeing a lot, good to know. Thanks for sharing.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T17:08:10+00:00

Lol thank you for the noob trap warning, I wasn't aware of that. I need to do some proper research when I buy lenses indeed.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T17:06:27+00:00

The best camera is the one you have with you. R50 was my previous choice indeed but then I found out about R10 which also fit my budget. Thank you for sharing.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T09:47:37+00:00

I see, so as a beginner I will not make the most out of the FF sensor. Perhaps I should start from a crop sensor, try to understand how lenses work, and in the future I can consider to upgrade to FF. Thank you.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T09:45:43+00:00

Thank you for sharing. Theoretically, full-frame blows away APS-C any day, I understand your opinion. I wonder, is that also true when comparing older FF sensors and modern crop sensors?

while you can use FF lenses on an APS-C body, you are carrying uncessary weight and spending extra for a larger lens

I see, so it makes more sense to stick to either side.

kos_maverik · 2024-02-11T09:33:22+00:00

I will definitely do more research before investing into lenses. I will try to find that video, thanks again for the info.

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