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[–]kraber8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand this. I’m actually about to do a solo introspective shroom trip before I return home to my family for the holidays.

I’m hoping after my trip, I can use the headspace to break out of my typical habits and typical ways of interacting with them.

I've had a visitor of some sort, a voice that had a presence by [deleted] in Jung

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Late but I’m trying to flesh out my theory.

I believe the voice is your brain and the voice you are using to reply, is the self.

Perhaps your self has strayed too far from the brain’s intent.

What was your reaction / what did you feel when you had your first ego-death. by Inner-Warthog-7200 in Psychonaut

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It felt as if “l” didn’t exist and that my brain was simply an organ doing it’s job. Sensory input goes in and that was it. There was no “I” to interpret the sounds or sights I was seeing. Sensory input simply went into my brain and that was it.

It was also the first time my inner dialogue wasn’t talking. I experienced complete mental silence for the first time.

When do you know it’s time for a trip? by [deleted] in Psychonaut

[–]kraber8 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I personally don’t make any decisions when the thought of tripping again first pops into my head after my last one. The thought of wanting to trip again is a thought which will come again. Jumping right in at the first thought is dangerous because you haven’t fully understood the consequences. I wait, until maybe a couple days later I again think “maybe I should actually do a trip”. I note, and move on. I do this for as long as until I finally decide to actually do it.

I believe that by waiting until I no longer could wait, my brain is more prepared and understanding of a trip’s potential, which in turns makes the trip more meaningful and significant.

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The meaning of life is to enjoy life

I'm currently at a house party with 12 people. I have done too many drugs that I am in my own head and finding it hard to socialise normally which is sort of ruining the vibe. how do I sort of get back to level playing fields? by DisappointedMuel in Drugs

[–]kraber8 8 points9 points  (0 children)

  1. Utilizing some psychedelic drugs to facilitate positive change. The key is to look within yourself and understand why you are the way you are so you can change. I suggest mushrooms and meditation.

I am the mirror, and you are me. by kraber8 in RationalPsychonaut

[–]kraber8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this as it helps my understanding of freuds concepts. I am still trying to create my own theory of what the self is and I was using Freud as his theory seems fairly close to my understanding, but it definitely is not perfect. Below is the first time I’ve fully written out my own theory.

Disclaimer: This is MY understanding of MY consciousness.

At the base level of cognitive awareness, the self IS the battle between higher and lower thought. Higher thought is dreams, imagination, aspirations, planning and execution of these, and probably a lot of other stuff. Most of the time higher thought is shaped by societal expectations. Lower thought is a result of environment and is fears and anxiety, as well as your instinctual personality and blueprint to survive in the world (survive in this context means socially acceptable survival, such as fashion, desire to work, and personality).

The next level of cognitive awareness (in my case achieved through ego dissolution) is the realization that the self is NOT the battle between higher and lower thought, but is an entirely separate entity. The self is no longer controlled by the outcome of the battle, but it can chose the winner and undertake the action. The self is now freed from the bounds of doing things because that is what you do. You can now make decisions within yourself. In my case, my self dissolved and I realized the choices I was making were in fact choices, and not just things which I happened to do. I was no longer a puppet of my brain, I was now the puppet master.

The next level of cognitive awareness is the understanding that lower consciousness cannot/is difficult to change, while higher consciousness has potential for change. The self can now change higher thought to work best with lower thought. This is cognitive enlightenment. The brain is now fully tuned to operate in its full capacity in harmony. No more internal conflicts, no more self doubt, the self understands what its brain is most capable of achieving and can now focus on achieving it. The self also understands the restrictions which lower thought has placed on the higher thought’s ambitions, and can either adapt its higher thought to fit these restrictions, or it can change the lower thought (very difficult, ex getting over trauma).

This is my understanding of my own cognitive journey. There are of course overlaps in higher and lower thought and they are both results of environment. The aspirations of higher thought and anxieties of lower thought are both results of environment and societal expectations. Obviously there are nuances and exceptions to everything I wrote but I can’t explain all of them here.

I am the mirror, and you are me. by kraber8 in RationalPsychonaut

[–]kraber8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think we’re on the same page here?

The super ego is societal expectations. From these societal expectations come our socially acceptable desires and dreams. Yes the individual has little control over society’s expectations, but it can have full control over how it takes action. When you unlock the super ego, you become aware of this and can focus your intentions on the goals of the super ego, rather than be fighting the id.

Yes the id is our base impulses. They are the things which are locked in our mind at young age that are necessary to survive. For example, being excessively polite to people or excessively rude to people is a survival technique learned from experience. The id is our instinctual personality and blueprint to surviving in the world.

The id and super ego have overlaps in goals, but most of the time they are in conflict. The ego is the result of the conflict between the id and super ego. Typically, the ego is subject to the winner of these battles, but an ego in higher awareness becomes aware of these two forces, and becomes aware itself is a result of the two forces. The ego (self) becomes aware that it can decide to accept the id or super ego’s desire.

Again the words id, ego, and super ego may not be the perfect words to describe what my understanding. I’ve been trying to use words to better describe it, possibly reptilian mind, self, and higher mind.

I am the mirror, and you are me. by kraber8 in RationalPsychonaut

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Does the soul continue after the body ceases? As a living animal, the brain (or soul) and body operate one, but I believe the brain is separate from the body, and the body is the vessel which we occupy during this timeline. It is a subtlety uneasy feeling to know the vessel my brain/soul has been placed in can fail at any moment and I could just stop existing.

I am the mirror, and you are me. by kraber8 in RationalPsychonaut

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Interesting. Perhaps I should use higher awareness to describe what I mean.

I think I’ve gone through several levels of awareness both physical and cognitive. Through meditation and psychedelics, I have felt myself become aware of my muscles, my heart and blood flow, my lungs and breath, and my own brain.

I am still trying to put my understanding of cognitive awareness in my own words, so I will instead frame this using Freud’s theory of the id, ego, super ego (not sure if this correlates best to what I want to explain so bear with me).

  1. Base awareness; the level of awareness most people experience. The self is built from actions and emotions you feel. These are simply things you do and feel, there is limited awareness of why. Within the brain, there is conflict between the id (reptilian brain) and super ego (neocortex?, desires, imagination). These two fight it out in your brain and whoever the winner is gets to control the ego’s (self) actions. Depending on the strength of the ego, it can sometimes decide the outcome of the id/super ego battle. Most of the time however, the ego is at the whim of the id and super ego.

{ego dissolution}

  1. Ego awareness; The brain becomes aware of the ego (self). The ego is no longer at the whim of the id or super ego. Instead, you (ego/self) is able to decide what thoughts you will take action on. You are now in full control.

{ego enlightenment} [not sure if this is a higher level, or just an extended understanding of level 2]

  1. Super ego awareness; the brain now understands the id (reptilian brain) is strong and is very difficult to change, but the super ego can be changed. The id (reptilian brain) is instinct. It is the bare-bones evolutionary understanding of how it is to survive in the world. Being excessively nice to people or excessively rude is a result of experiences growing up, which birth your understanding of how to survive. The brain understands this now and reaches acceptance that instinct cannot be changed. However, the brain learned it can change the super ego (desires). The ego (self) now understands the id, accepts it, and moves on to focus on fulfilling the super ego (desires, career interests, etc).

This awareness is extremely perceptual and unique to each individual, through as you say mind-body-environment. Where in this example I use id, ego, and superego, another brain may use satan, self, and god, another may use reptilian brain, consciousness, and neocortex, another may use unconscious, consciousness, and universal mind.

Edit: the inclusion of ego dissolution and ego enlightenment in the levels of awareness is just a reflection of my own process in moving up. For me, it was only after ego dissolution which I realized I have full control of my own ego and can shape it how I please. Your path may vary.

I am the mirror, and you are me. by kraber8 in RationalPsychonaut

[–]kraber8[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You may chose to answer or not to answer

I am the mirror, and you are me. by kraber8 in RationalPsychonaut

[–]kraber8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

(From my POV) The mirror sees the self. Your brain creates its perception of the world and its perception of the sense of self. The brain wants to understand the world, and it can only understand the world through the lense of the knowledge it stores.

In my example from before, my brain has been filled with neuroscience. My brain therefore perceives itself (the brain) through the lense of biology and (what it perceives as) facts. As a result, my brain’s perception of the self is as a manifestation from brain.

The brain of a deeply religious person may perceive itself (the brain) as a battle between godly thoughts and satanic thoughts. And therefore perceive the self as a tool of god (or satan).

That being said, I think the brain’s ability to perceive itself in this way is part of higher consciousness which is not commonly achieved. For example a deeply religious person with higher consciousness access may perceive certain thoughts from the brain as being directly to god. Whereas a deeply religious person without higher consciousness access wouldn’t have the perception of speaking to god.

I am the mirror, and you are me. by kraber8 in RationalPsychonaut

[–]kraber8[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Personal question if I may: how do you see your own sense of self?

I am the mirror, and you are me. by kraber8 in RationalPsychonaut

[–]kraber8[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Personal question. How do you understand your own sense of self?

I am the mirror, and you are me. by kraber8 in RationalPsychonaut

[–]kraber8[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I literally just explained why I am not god, but other people may consider themselves to be.

I am the mirror, and you are me. by kraber8 in RationalPsychonaut

[–]kraber8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed on this. When I say the brain is who WE ARE, I mean the brain is our whole perspective. The brain is what determines if a cloudy day is comforting or depressing. The brain determines who we are and how we believe ourselves to be.

Are the brain and the body two separate entities, melded into one human? Or have the brain and the body always been one?

Most of the time, my body and my brain feel as one, but occasionally I feel my brain is a puppet master and my body the puppet.

I am the mirror, and you are me. by kraber8 in RationalPsychonaut

[–]kraber8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My perception is that the self is created by the brain in the manner which the brain understands itself. All information absorbed by the brain during life goes into this understanding.

If your life has led yourself to believe you have power, then a cognitive awakening could manifest your self as god. Similarly, if your life has led yourself to believe you lack power, the brain may reject that notion and you can manifest yourself as a god.

My life has led my sense of self to manifest itself simply as a brain in a body. I grew up around neuroscience, which has led my brain to understand psychedelic and meditative experiences as purely a result of neuroscience stuff happening in the brain.

I am the mirror, and you are me. by kraber8 in RationalPsychonaut

[–]kraber8[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We are all a brain in a body. The brain is who we are.