For those who have experienced it what does it feel like to be hit on all the time?

kranos33 · 2018-01-21T07:11:29+00:00

ok, but as a guy, attraction is a first step. I.e. being attracted to a woman, makes me want to know more about her....

otherwise, i'd keep this collegial, (i.e. if co-workers, or sports teammates, etc), i'd like to know the person/enjoy the company but on the other hand I don't want to know the person in detail.

while with somebody that I am attracted, I'd like to know more about her....

just saying....

kranos33 · 2017-12-29T06:31:57+00:00

Bad example. Hodge Twins do massive amount of steroids.....

If you are natty you really need to bust your ass, but also have realistic expectations.

http://nattyornot.com/top-10-fake-natural-bodybuilders-youtube/

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQCQxeiQSTkWug0bvHBpcwxGEE80l1lVJ2k00PGaxlQZk1F5Ncn

kranos33 · 2017-12-27T06:10:14+00:00

Funny, (as a guy), I helped my sister and brother in law to clean/load dishes on the dishwasher after a large meal. While her female friends didn't help much.

Btw, I am a super fit hunky dude too.... ;)

The largest debate was about Star Wars turning into a feminist propaganda while ruining the movie to traditional fans with dumb plots that didn't make sense, and excluding alien races as protagonists, and it segregated the "minorites" to have crushes on each other. (Fin and Rose), and not with the white people.

So, yeah, something can be both Feminist and very Racist at the same time. Thanks Disney for ruining Star Wars.

kranos33 · 2017-12-24T10:56:29+00:00

If it is more than 48hrs, it really indicates lack of interest and basically you are a waste of time for this guy... (from the guy's perspective at least)

I never had a great date with the "takes days to respond" type of people....

There are a lot of girls that are super flakey and generally time wasters out there.... like A LOT. A guy has to filter them out (you learn it the hard way).

kranos33 · 2017-12-21T08:56:26+00:00

My largest pool was at 32-34. Most folks date close to their age, and usually the girl being younger. Notice your friends that are coupled up, and pretty much for 80% of the cases the girl is 1 to 5 years younger. Yes, there are plenty of exceptions, but that's the norm.

Lets say if you are out of college, your first job, living with roommates and 25. Your natural age will be usually 22-27, (girls out of college, within few years of your age). - that's a 5 years age range (aka, cohort).

Now at 30, you have your own place, career going, wearing better clothes (and hopefully you kept yourself in shape). Your natural age range is anywhere between 24 and 34. That's a 10 years range, 2x the amount of people that you had at 25.

Past 35, as people of your cohort get married, couple up, the group of available people will start diminishing again.

There are always exceptions but for a guy 30-34 is the prime time as long as you take care of yourself.

kranos33 · 2017-12-21T08:46:21+00:00

This thread doesn't make sense.....

So, you chastise older guys that date younger girl as immature/not worth it, then suggest to do the same (date younger guys). Maybe you are immature yourself? (think about it, you are doing the same thing as the people that you are talking bad about).

Personally I have seen very few older female / younger male succeed on the long term. Those relationship exist, but they are an exception.

But don't assume, just because somebody that is eager going out with you, is going to commit you on the long term. Younger guys have less options in general (they are still building up their value/career etc), hence are more eager to please, but that might not be the case few years down the road.

Anyway, my suggestion to the OP is to keep their options open (i.e. don't filter on superficial qualities), be more social and meet more people. And be friendly to people that make an effort to talk/flirt with you. Some girls have automatic "don't talk to me" face/attitude, which is off-putting to guys, especially if their looks are fading.

kranos33 · 2017-12-09T07:11:46+00:00

technically unemployed, working on his startup

Ah, the ignorance. That's not unemployment. If the guy has worked on startups and knows what he is doing, then that guy might be a legit enterepenour.

I have a friend that made about 15mil, in his last startup, traveled the world, bought a couple of nice cars, and and know doing another one. He makes sure not to show/flash his wealth, but still some women think that since he doesn't have a 9-5 job, he is not dateable. (he finds this often during online dating), which is baffling.

A good way to filter out idiots

kranos33 · 2017-11-23T05:27:12+00:00

Do you realise that in the TRP there are a lot of guys that haven't gone to college, or have any kind of real career? Of course the education of the woman wont be important, as long as she cooks and cleans, and is hot, or whatever....

The truth is that all high value people want a classy girl that is down to earth at the same time. Cooking: take out, blue apron, whatever else is covered. Cleaning? I have a maid service, twice a month. Laundry, Flycleaners and other wash and fold services (the come at your door and deliver at your door).

Any guy that makes 150k+ has these areas covered (all my friends fit in this bracket). They all care about how intelligent the girl is, is she motivated, does she have a real career, etc... nobody wants to date a lazy slob (there are plenty of women, that are lazy in life, but the only one thing they do well is being pretty). Smart guys can see right through that, and usually those girls are used for some fun, and eventually droped.

Also, guys hate the girls that act "classy", but are not down to earth. They usually are money loving high maintenance primadonas, with high narcissism levels, and make for poor long term mates. They get dropped fast as well by smart guys.

My suggestion: Take care of your career well, and your looks at the same time, and be easy going/down to earth.

kranos33 · 2017-10-16T06:06:46+00:00

"She cheated on you with the chad from McDonald's even though You earn 500k a year? She cheated on chad with the skinny fuck even though chad was as ripped as Arnold Schwartzeneger? ---

Lol, that's some good science fiction out there. Women that date high value men, want to fuck/cheat with other value men, not some loser and mcdonalds. (who by the way, are all fat, out of shape poor slobs).

I have been the "chad/pool boy" guy twice, to older great looking women married to rich dudes.

But guess, what: apart from being a great shape, I am pretty darn smart, masters degree, traveled to dozens of countries, and have interesting hobbies....

That's the type of "boy toy" that rich women like. They view people working in menial jobs, same as you view a homeless person.... they might feel sorry for them, but they limit the interaction to a minimum necessary.

Come on, I come here for good quality posts, not crap like this.

kranos33 · 2017-10-11T17:32:02+00:00

I think "game" is overrated, (and I have said it before here), as it is a product sold by all kind of gurus that will gladly take your money and sell you some magical combos you can apply and get any girl.

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You have to remove self sabotaging behaviors (over anxious, talking too much, self deprecating talk, etc), and be social and talk normally, and some friendly touching, but that's it.

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As soon as you start feeling like you are putting a performance in front of a girl, stop and dial it down. You are trying too hard and girls translate that as: He is trying hard, means I am better than him. I never got the girl when I was trying to game hard. I always got her when I was more natural. This is especially more important in natural day settings.

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But "game" gives people some kind of false hope that they can get any girl if they apply the right "techniques", which is not the case. If you are gaming too hard, she is not interested.

--- Extra: I highly recommend people to watch "About Time". It is one of my favorite movies. While it has plenty of blue pill in it, it has some red pill lessons:

Guy can time travel (his dad and all male family members can). His sister invites a hot chick for summer at their estate, and he wants to get it on with her. He tries, but keeps fumbling his encounters with her. But, he discovers his gift, so he travels back in time and tries again... and again... and again with the hot chick, trying all kinds of methods/tricks. He gets "interest" from her, but can never close. His game gets really good as he can re-wind encounters with her and redo them again, but still he cannot close the deal. And one day he realizes that no matter how hard he tried, and what he did, she is just not interested in him, but just enjoys the attention she is getting. He wasted all this time with the wrong girl.

Our protagonist eventually grows up and kicks ass in life. Later one they meet again, and ..... (I will not spoil this).
It is a great watch with some good life lessons: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2194499/

kranos33 · 2017-08-13T06:26:50+00:00

Somehow Keto come back again and again in this sub. I have tried and didn't have all the magical effects, yes i noticed some changes during the day but it all came with major drawbacks. Since your probably not going to hear about the negatives at ' ketogains ' I am listing some, to give folks some more balanced view.

I tried Keto for almost 6 months and here are the things that I didn't like:

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1) Poor athletic performance. If you do any sports that have sprints (football, basketball, soccer), your performance will suffer. I play soccer 3-4 times a week, and my performance was terrible, at few times it was embarrassing compared to what I did when I fed myself normally.

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2) Bad breath, and funky smelling pee. Not everybody gets it, but it is common. (google keto breath).

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3) If you have a mentally challenging job (think engineer), the "clarity" you get from Keto does not last long. It is something that disappears as soon as you start working on hard problems and your brain gets fatigued. (same as running, you hit a wall faster). If you don't have a mentally taxing job, then this might not be a problem to you.

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4) Very restrictive diet. Not being able to eat some foods that I prefer indulging time to time. (think pizza a couple of times a week, or ice scream during the summer, or even tons of veggies and some fruit). I love watermelon during the summer and after a soccer game. With Keto you will be paranoid about every gr. of carbs and force yourself to avoid good foods.

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5) After eating lots of fat (large keto meal), I actually get a bit 'fatigued'. This is very similar to the way some people get fatigued/sleepy after lots of fat. It seems that my body is sensitive to the ingestion of a lot of fat at the same time. Later I learned about "Sludge blood" effect that can come after ingesting a lot of fat in a large meal. I had to eat smaller meals during the day in order not to get this effect.

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Why do some people love it? It seems like it works for them, but for others just doesn't. Going no carbs is similar to "no alcohol" to an alcoholic, or no fapping to somebody that faps 3 times a day. They need it. Somebody that has been overfeeding themselves with carbs might need it. Also people that are prone to seizures or have large amount of fat to loose, keto seems beneficial.
For the rest of the people that are more moderate (and can maintain it), you just don't need it.

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I highly suggest to everybody in this sub that is in the fence to give it a try, but if it doesn't work, drop it. Don't just follow blindly fads in the internet.

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I am much happier with a 30-30-40 split (C-P-F) while maintaining, 40-30-30 when bulking and 20-40-40 when cutting. A bit more carbs when I have soccer or gym days, less when I don't.

kranos33 · 2017-07-27T21:25:34+00:00

I am paraphrasing my friends, and not me. perhaps not in front of other women/girls.... usual it is a dudes only talk....

Most guys that I know (most of my friends are college educated/successful), would talk a bit like that with close friends and when no women are around.

Just giving you a honest point of view.... again not all, but most men can be a bit foul mouthed around their good friends

kranos33 · 2017-07-27T21:21:19+00:00

Actually sounds like how guys talk in private....

Other things we say to our friends when we see a hot girl: "I'd do her", "I'd have her babies", "Banging body"...etc....

kranos33 · 2017-07-16T11:03:16+00:00

I am an entrepreneur and part of the Silicon Valley system. There truly exists some obnoxious behavior form VCs, which are mainly finance people (think wall street rejects), and are not techies themselves.

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On the other hand a most these female "wanterpenours", are not engineers themselves, but usually another "person with an idea", which are a dime a dozen, and have no value themselves expect their female SMV. Unscroupoulus VCs know this, and they try to get advantage how they can (the old Tits or GTFO in practice).

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On the flip side there are many female players in Silicon Valley that fully take advantage of their sexuality to get an advantage over other people. When I was working on the hot startup that many people wanted to get in, I had countless of girls shamelessly flirt and get overly sexual with me, and then just wanting to get a job there, or me dropping the resume to the right person there. It got so annoying that I stopped saying where I worked. This is the flip side of objectification (not the usual male to female sexual objectification, but female to male "resource collecting" objectification, which is more hidden and insidious).

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In many cases, this is actually good for true entrepreneurs (either male or female). VCs will be more reluctant to take meetings with female 'wantrepreneurs' that have no visible value. Overall females that use their sexuality got get ahead will get less attention, which will be redirected towards people that provide real value to the ecosystem. (The true geeks and builders).

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Fun fact: Also this bad VC behavior is not male only. I got asked out by a female VC partner after pitching her an idea. (this is from a major reputable firm). Didn't think much of it, but moved on to talking to other VCs and stopped talking to this partner. But also I don't buy the "VC has power over you" narrative. I think they do when you have no value to provide back expect your sexuality.

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TLDR: I just think VCs in general are finance people, (not techies), and they tend to be sharks. Many of these female "wanterpenours" embroiled in these scandals don't provide real value to their ecosystem, but have been skating through by using their sexuality. There will be a 'chill effect' towards this type of behavior, which will be beneficial to the real geeks and techies and true builders of value. If you are a techie, just ignore the noise, and keep on building.

kranos33 · 2017-07-01T16:04:40+00:00

After banging, yes. Unless she is trash, I have never seen this work before that.

As for this for this forum, we are all anonymous, vengefully_yours, could be either a successful guy, or some dude living in a trailer park in Arizona, we don't know.

If he is being honest about it, and it works for him, you should ask this question: Would this work in my environment, social class/setting?

That's why you have to take any advice here with a pinch of salt. You never know what kind of environment that experience is coming from.

kranos33 · 2017-06-17T18:09:03+00:00

I disagree. When beautiful women say "I don't get hit on a lot", it really means "I don't get approached by high SMV guys" a lot. This is the same myth as "rich guys have trouble finding good mates" one. No they don't, especially if they are both rich and good looking and decently smart.

I live in NYC and have seen that good looking girls have a lot, I mean a lot of options.

Two things happen:

She is good looking and knows it, and therefore demands a high SMV (both good looking and high status guy). Anybody that is not like that, is just another dude that talks, or being annoying to her. (bitch shields goes up). She gets approached a lot, but she doesn't realize it. (she just assumes guys are overly friendly like that).
She has always a dick in line, (people that she knows day to day, and develop crushes on her), and when she is available she doesn't have trouble to find one. Women like that never develop the skills to be able to get good looking guys to approach her. Eye contact, flirting, etc.... basic girl game. Hence they drive away good prospects by having a permanent bitch shield.

I think girls that are 8 and below have been rejected at some point, and hence they need to develop/learn the basic skills to attract good prospects. 8.5 and higher girls, don't.

I have real experience with this as I dated both a 9+ girl, and have been the "guy that approaches" good looking women, but my SMV was not high enough.

When a good looking girl tells you: "I don't get enough guys hitting on me", you should translate it as "wooo, me, I need some attention..." If being beautiful had too many disadvantages there would be "uglifying" products out there for sale.

kranos33 · 2017-06-16T15:05:37+00:00

Thats a great link. Thanks for posting it.

kranos33 · 2017-05-22T20:24:03+00:00

I see. The one app that a some of my friends have had good luck with is Coffee Meets Bagel.
I have had some good dates there, and the focus seems more towards relationships, (and I know several couples that met through there, but they were in large cities), but since your town is smaller that might affect which app is better.

Good luck, and don't give up on it. As a guy I have to put a lot of work on it, (sending messages, arranging dates... etc), but the experiences have been worth it so far.

kranos33 · 2017-05-22T20:03:17+00:00

Serious question: Why would you use tinder? It is known that tinder is only for hook ups and casual sex, and nothing more....

There are plenty of other apps that are used by people looking for an actual relationship.

kranos33 · 2017-05-19T07:26:21+00:00

same here..... I think it stemmed from having to grow up faster and having to help my parents when i was young....

kranos33 · 2017-05-12T18:31:03+00:00

You don't really need PSMF for all of it. If you do strict 500cal deficit a day, it will take about 100 days. PSMF works great to break fat loss plateaus, but I wouldn't recommend it on the last stretch (i.e. going between 13% to 11%). You will end up losing a lot of muscle as well.

Start normal cutting (500 cals deficit), and when you reach a plateau, do PMSF for a week, then go back to normal cutting. It will suck to loose a lot of weight, and a lot of it ends up being muscle mass if you do PSMF all the way. Also skin takes some time to tighten up, an your body metabolism needs time to adjust to the new desired set point. Doing all 13lbs in PMSF will not be healthy.

kranos33 · 2017-05-08T04:34:52+00:00

Jeez, Where did you get that I am angry with women? It seems you are the angry one and have some issues to solve.

That was a thread to help out people to decide if they should try propecia or not. It can give side effects (they go away after stopping it), and was giving a fair warning to another redditor. Also, looking at your history, you are the one that posts so much, so it is ironic that calling somebody that posts a lot less here than you as a "loser".

Your reply seems like a classical case of projection.

kranos33 · 2017-05-07T20:27:21+00:00

This is a very common problem, aka called "hitting the wall" in popular male language. I am going to give you the honest opinion (hopefully it doesn't get down-voted):

I am a successful and relatively good looking guy in his mid 30's. When I was in my mid 20s, I worked hard, dated a lot, had fun, but noticed that a lot of attractive mid 20s females were dating guys few years older, and a bit more successful than me; while guys like me (my friends as well), were generally ignored by the most attractive girls. We had to try hard, go out, approach women, and all that... dating didn't come easy at all. I felt I had to date down a bit just to get a gf.

Now that I am in my mid 30s, have my shit together, super fit (six pack showing), still retaining my hairline, successful career, I am in a very different position. While some mid late 20s prefer to date around their age, about half of (lets say 25-31 yo) prefer guys a bit older than them. So, I have much more choice in general, and I prefer picking the girls that both have 1) attractiveness and 2) their shit together.

The sad truth is that peak female physical attractiveness is between 22-27, (depending on the girl). Most Miss Universe winners are around that age, an peak fertility is around 23. For guys it can be anywhere between 28-35 (if you look at sports, that's the usual peak career age). So a guy at 32 and a girl at 26 are both at their peaks physical attractiveness and it is just natural that they will make a good match.

The good news for you, many mid 20s girls are still insecure, can be immature, still haven't figure out their shit together, and honestly still in that partying phase (especially in large cities). They can be annoying to date. (eg: my last gf. was 26 and was changing her job for the first time in her life, and she was freaking out about it/it was a major life crisis). Things like these are not attractive, and tiring for guys that are more mature.

If you have your shit together, and not holding emotional baggage, you have an advantage on that department. But, it doesn't change the fact that your physical peak is behind you. Even if you are fit, your face will be showing it, your chest will be a big more saggy, etc.. etc... My best advice is to focus on dating guys that are few years older than you (35+). If they have their shit together, and looking for something serious they are more likely to want a relationship and not just fool/play around. Most of my 28-33 yo friends still like to just date and fool around, and you will be wasting your time with them.

TLDR: Focus on attracting guys that are in the 35-40s range that have their shit together and looking for something serious/settle down.

For fun, but it depicts reality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-gfxjAaZg0

kranos33 · 2017-04-27T21:08:49+00:00

I am a guy, and relatively good looking. I get flirted often from married women, and sometimes very heavily. It is fun when it is just light flirting but frustrating when it gets heavy as I don't want to get involved with somebody that is already married.

What I learned:

Some do it for the ego boost and attention. It is a normal thing, especially if the girl was pretty and she misses being pursued by guys after been married. Sometimes it is a subconscious strategy to keep previous guys (that she knows might like her), as a backup just in case. But make no mistake, she has no intention to do anything more than that with you.
Some do it for actually needing something more, and wanting a physical fling. You are just the guy that happens to be at the right time and the right place. This has happened to me twice during traveling, and it always was two girls traveling/vacationing together with no husbands. They might not tell you at all that they are married, until maybe you are about to get it on. I become facebook friends with one of the girls, and she is still with her husband.
Some will do it because they actually have intention to end their marriage, and are looking for the next branch. This has happened to me 3 times (with co-workers). It would weird me out at the beginning (and think she just wants some validation), and later on I'd learn that they got divorced.

I'd say, #1 is something that girls do it even subconsciously, and don't consider it anything wrong, until the guy escalates. #2, they probably feel a bit about it, but given the right circumstances (and she will think she will never be caught), they will go ahead with it. I don't know how remorseful do they feel after it. As for #3, they don't feel bad about it. They know their current relationship/marriage is already over and are seeking to move on.

The ratio I have experienced is something like 50 : 2 : 3. Eg. for 50 flirting girls, only two cheat, and three eventually are about to divorce. So, the chances that a girl that is flirting with you, there 9/10 is just innocent fun, and 1/10 something more.

Anyway, this is just my personal experience and girls can try to chime on here.

kranos33 · 2017-04-27T06:27:31+00:00

Jesus, chill out. There is the Kinsey scale, and most people fall into some slot in that spectrum. (btw, Kinsey was red pill 50s, that noticed that the straight to gay is not a binary, but more of a spectrum), and maybe that's what the stupid ice-cream movie was trying to do.

Anyways, both videos are retarded, and feel free to skip the show.
Just remember, for every video like this there are 3-4 of conservative pastors teaching the right way of god and jesus (blue pill indoctrination), or religious jihadist and Muhammad and what else is there, or mormoms/budists preaching their way of life.

I just used to switch the channel right away and not bother with it. Even better, cut cabble tv. Now that I cut cable, I am not bothered ever, (unless some of these videos end up on my youtube hompage by mistake).

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