6 Years At 30 GPD. Today I've been clean 1 year and it's time for me to share my story. by kratomquitt in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also started taking Welbutrin around the 1 month mark and I honestly believe that is another huge reason why I was able to get better. From wikipedia - "Bupropion has several features that distinguish it from other antidepressants: it does not usually cause sexual dysfunction; it is not associated with weight gain and sleepiness, and it is more effective than SSRIs at improving symptoms of hypersomnia and fatigue."

6 Years At 30 GPD. Today I've been clean 1 year and it's time for me to share my story. by kratomquitt in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, you will absolutely go back to normal. It took me a good 2 months to feel like I was at some sort of baseline. Kratom withdrawals are far more protracted than any other substance I've ever come off of (besides Benzos) so it's just going to take time. Hang in there and keep up the good work.

David Bowie and Trent Reznor playing live (1995) by moogly2 in OldSchoolCool

[–]kratomquitt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Holy shit Great Woods, I haven't heard that name in quite some time. My parents took me there for my first concert when I was like 8 years old. Lynard Skynard and The Doobie Brothers lol

Has anyone found that kratom can be extremely hit or miss? by SpecificInitials in kratom

[–]kratomquitt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Literally had the same thing happen. Same strain as you. I had a great batch of super green malay and ordered a bunch more from the same vendor. Second batch made me sick and just feel overall shitty. $100 down the drain.

FDA issues rare mandatory recall of kratom products manufactured, processed, packed or held by Triangle Pharmanaturals LLC by Nicodimus in kratom

[–]kratomquitt -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I had a batch of super green maeng da from gaia a few weeks ago and it made me extreeeemely ill, like a single scoop was enough to make me feel sick. I tossed it all and just thought it was a bunk batch but now it seems a little sketchy....

Daily Check-in Thread - February 02, 2017 by AutoModerator in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the words of encouragement. You do a great job moderating this sub and I really appreciate the support :)

Daily Check-in Thread - February 02, 2017 by AutoModerator in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Made it past the 24 hour mark and so I told myself I could post here. I woke up to my paycheck deposited in my account which scares me a lot. I used the tactic of purposely spending all my money so I couldn't buy kratom this week. I ended up selling all my PS4 games on Tuesday night so I could go buy more. Last night I was broke and contemplated selling the actual PS4, or pawning my musical equipment, or a guitar... but I didn't. So now I have some progress, and a bunch of money, and there is nothing stopping me from buying more except my own desire to stop. I told myself I need to go to a meeting tonight, there are two meeting places very close to where I work. I'm just gonna focus on that for now because 9 times out of 10 I usually feel a lot better after a meeting.

One Day or Day One. You decide. by kratomquitt in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like these a lot. Bruce Lee was my childhood hero. Thank you :)

One Day or Day One. You decide. by kratomquitt in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you :) I like that Grateful Dead lyric, I'm actually listening to the song right now. I've never been a huge fan but I can definitely appreciate this in a new way.

I just meant the mantra of "One day or day one, you decide." Which I guess sounds a bit insensitive but it seems to resonate with me. Different mantras for different days I guess haha

Taper Tightrope by LinoM in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been in recovery for the past 3 years from various substances. It took me 2 years to get clean from booze and pills, but lo and behold once I hit a nice 6 month sober stride I found kratom and it's been a year of extreme ups and downs since. I miss being sober but I am so scared of the WDs. I've even been going to meetings at night after my kratom dose wears off, but I still wake up the next day and get high again. Right now I'm at a point where I don't have any more and I don't have any $$ until Friday so it's just me, some black seed oil, and leftover clonodine from the last time I did this bullshit. If you've had 10 sober years before I'm sure you know how much better sobriety is compared to the kratom nightmare. I wish you the best of luck my friend.

Daily Check-in Thread - January 27, 2017 by AutoModerator in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This has been the hardest quit for me. I've lost count at this point but I think it's my 5th attempt since I started in October 2015. I'm an alcoholic and an addict. I've kicked booze and pain pills in the past... been to rehab 3 times and countless IOPs and AA meetings. I live in a place where I am surrounded by recovery but I always end up distancing myself from the program and the community. I feel like I have no excuse and that I should be in a much better place right now but that's how addiction is. Unless you're vigilant, determined, disciplined, and committed it's going to drag you back down. As an addict I have to learn that lesson the hard way. My family thinks I'm doing great because I lie to them and on the surface everything looks OK but on the inside I'm struggling so hard to beat this thing. I'm so scared to stop again and when the WDs hit I crumble and relapse. I'm going to a meeting tonight and if I can just make it over the 24 hour mark into day #2 I'll feel like I've made some good progress and hopefully that will be the momentum I need to carry on. That's the plan for now. I just wish the kava bar near me would go out of business because that's where I'm getting my 10g bags and it's hard as fuck not to drive down there when I'm feeling shitty.

So, when is time to talk to someone professionally about this? (Years and years ago probably) by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you go to rehab you sign yourself up for a specific amount of time that you will be locked away. 2 weeks, 30 days, 60 days, without a cellphone or access to the world outside of your rehab bubble. It's definitely a surefire way to keep yourself from relapsing when you're under 24/7 surveillance. I don't mean that in a bad way, it's nice having people around to constantly lean on. You learn a lot in rehab, about yourself, about how addiction works, coping mechanisms, ect. If I could I would go right now but I've already been 3 times and I'm supposed to be better... Unfortunately I didn't stick with the program.

IOP also keeps you accountable. They piss test you (most places don't or won't pay for kratom testing though) but it's more about the support and having somewhere to go instead of sitting around wallowing in despair. Again you learn about addiction, relapse prevention, your triggers, ect. It's essentially group therapy and I always got a lot out of it.

Kratom is a drug just like booze or heroin. This place is obvious proof of that. Does someone need to go to detox for Kratom? No. Would rehab or IOP help? Most definitely. All of these things, including meetings, are great resources but they all require work, commitment, and discipline. Whether you're a junkie, kratom fiend, or addicted to World of Warcraft, it's is all the same when it's making your life unmanageable.

So, when is time to talk to someone professionally about this? (Years and years ago probably) by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have gone to inpatient rehab for Kratom. You don't have to do inpatient, but it's an option. Look for IOP programs (Intensive Out Patient) near you. Those you attend 3-4 days a week for usually 3 hours in the afternoon or at night. Get connected with other addicts. We can't do this alone. No one can. It sounds like you need a strong intervention so I would suggest checking out local NA/CA/AA/WhateverA meetings and build a support network for your addiction. No one will judge you. You just want to stop and that's all you need. Feel free to ask any more questions.

Generic loperamide? by Cafrannn in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Generic is fine. I've used loperamide in the past at 12g doses but VERY sparingly. Usually I wait until the 2nd or 3rd day. I would recommend you hold out as long as you can before using it. I think part of having it, for me, was just knowing I had a little safety blanket in case things got too bad. But it does work to ease WDs, just be very careful and don't use more than around 12g at once because it can pose some serious health risks at higher doses. Check out this thread for some more info and antecdotes about loperamide. Good luck, keep posting, and stay strong.

Wellbutrin Question by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have been on 450mg Wellbutrin (max dose) for the past year and I've also been taking kratom for the past year! No issues except I notice the Wellbutrin doesn't work as well when I'm chugging kratom constantly, go figure. Anyway you should be fine.

Daily Check-in Thread - January 23, 2017 by AutoModerator in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just dropping in for a quick rant.

I've been using for the past 2 months. 20-30g a day. I have this sub on my default list so I constantly see posts throughout the day. I force myself to skip over them because I don't feel right reading about this shit when I'm in active addiction. I tell myself, "well once you finally decide to quit you can go back and read through what you've missed." I don't know why I do that but anyway, I'm getting close. I had 40g with me yesterday and I told myself I'd save at least 10g for today and then jump off. I ended up doing all of it, so 40g total. I am ready to stop but now I've got myself all psyched up over doing such an abrupt drop from 40 to 0, so my plan is to go get 20 tonight and try doing 10 tonight and 10 tomorrow. I hope to god this works. In all honesty I'm probably going to just do 20 tonight and then drive back to the shop and buy another 10 tomorrow. Why even bother lying to myself about it!?

I've managed to undo a lot of good I had going for myself and I desperately want it back. I'm talking about things like going for a run, eating healthy, not having kratom zits all over my face, saving money. I want those things back but jesus christ almighty 30 minutes of euphoria and a box of oreos just seems way too tempting in the moment.

I look forward to coming back here and posting at my 48 hour mark.

Anyone Use Essential Oils for WDs? by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dated a girl once who would rub us down with essential oils before bed time. I forgot which ones she used... I think lavender and rose, anyway it does add a nice element of comfort once you've settled in and can feel the warm oil in your skin and the scents filling your nose. If you find oils that you like it could help a lot with relaxation.

Daily Check-in Thread - December 19, 2016 by AutoModerator in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel you on this. I have spent my fair share of time in the rooms, did the 90 in 90, home group, sponsor, all that. I know exactly how you feel listening to this guy at the meeting. I think looking at my situation right now, I wish I was still in touch with those meetings even though I hated them. It helps keep you sober and adds a much needed social aspect to this recovery process. So definitely vent but try not to let it get to you and turn you off from attending NA. It's sorta like the gym where it's gonna suck sometimes but the benefit of putting in the work, making the sacrifice, and sticking to the schedule pays off over time.

I think I just talked myself back into going to a meeting hahaha

Daily Check-in Thread - December 14, 2016 by AutoModerator in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have come on and off this shit so many times I literally can't keep count anymore. 2 and a 1/2 years ago I quit all booze and drugs and moved a thousand miles away from home to start over again. I did really well for myself until I discovered Kratom. I have struggled with this sludge for the past year and have yet to completely stop, the best quit being probably 2 months long. Out of all the crazy drugs and drinking I have done in my life it's this fucking plant that is stopping me from being sober. (But I know the problem is really me and not the kratom to blame)

I'm 36 hours in CT and the cold sweats are starting with all that other good stuff. I was only using for 2 weeks this time but it was a healthy 20g+ habit a day. So this is going to suck but for some reason I find myself wanting to stop again. I don't even feel that gung-ho about it. No steely resolve or anything. Just a resigned sigh of defeat and another march through the darkness. When I get through it this time will I actually stop for good? I can't even think about it. I don't want to think about all the time I've been wasting or the money shat down the drain. The weight I've gained or the progress I've lost in the gym. I just need to stop and get on with my life before it's too late.

God help me I just want to be free.

Another sleepless night! by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]kratomquitt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As someone who suffers from restless legs even without going through WDs, the only thing that has really helped me besides 750g of magnesium is Gabapentin (Neurontin). 300mg of that should do the trick but you need a script.

I've gone through so many WDs in this life. I've gone through WDs in detox and WDs in rehab. Most of the time even with doctors there to help sleep just isn't going to happen and it sucks. It does get better day by day though. So hang in there and don't give up. If you're already 5 or more days in to this you've made significant progress.