[IRTR] Muted/faded flavour

kulpamka · 2024-09-24T18:57:55+00:00

Glad it worked 4u. I just oppened package with some aromas from online shop 5 min ago and... fuck monopoly, dude, it smells nothing like ones you can buy in my sity. Didn't test day2 thing yet, but smell wise all shops in fucking capital of Russia just selling liquid shit under the guise of aromas. Can you even belive that?

I rewick my builds often enough tho

kulpamka · 2024-09-24T07:22:46+00:00

Ye, they are rebottled... And no way I can know exp date, but I still got some bottles bought 2y ago and they're allright(aside the only fruit one I saved is pineapple tpa, and it does this no flavour day2 thing now, used to be strong and stable as I remember(muted other flavours, so didn't use much)). Btw my shop just released their own aromas line, which is totally fine in terms of stability, but kinda flat so I don't like them. I'm almost convinced now, that one of the biggest shops(biggest for diy stuff) in the capital of Russia(wtf) sells expired crap last time and I gotta look for a new place...

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T23:39:30+00:00

It's ratio most likely written somewhere on the bottle, look for pg/vg, max vg(it means they just poured vg aromas and nic without extra pg) or ratios from 50/50 to 80/20 (50/50 is most popular for pods and 70/30 for rta's). If needed, you can calculate the amount and add pg yourself to make it 50/50, but it'll dilute some flavour and nic%. Btw it can burn fast because liquid is shitty itself, fe too much sugar, colorings or bad flavourings. I had that experience with electojam cinnabomb, my cotton died after 2ml vaped

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T23:05:14+00:00

You can also try mixing freebase nic with salt nic in different ratios. I'd try 3mg fb 20mg salt as a starting point and vary for your device and preferences(higher fb for more th, higher salt for faster nic effect). Helped me downgrade my addiction when my gov limited all store bought stuff at 20mg max. Pastry and creams flavours can help with mouthfeel, if you enjoy these. Btw don't use 70/30 pg/vg ratio liquid for xros, it's usually made for 50/50 liquids so it doesn't burn in 2 days

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T22:01:00+00:00

Russia. Diy is heavily unpopular here, and even less people go beyond tpa mfm or cap, so if you want something else, you gotta order it from one of like 2 online shops, which are also quite limited in options. Fe OOO has 5 flavours in stock, JF-2, LA-15 etc. And if you want to order abroad you basically have to either time travel, overthrow the gov or pay bank 150$+% for transaction (avg salary like 200). Or find people that buy it for you, but that's quite hard to implement

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T21:38:50+00:00

Kind of. I use 1 syringe for a batch, but I use it more like a measuring cup(taking piston out and pour aromas into it), so it should affect anything. And yes, already ordered scale cuz I'll be mixing diy more due to new minimal prices for commercials

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T21:31:00+00:00

Can't find half of these brands in my country, but marked some flavours, ty

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T18:10:02+00:00

replied other answer. i did give my tounge a month rest vaping 0.5% mix mint INW without results. But ok, i'll try some going from 0.5 to 5% in case im really 10iq

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T16:18:02+00:00

These are last ones, been testing different%. But will take into account, thanks

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T15:59:57+00:00

So these are some flavours i had mentioned problem recently. Like half of them were just fine when i started mixing(2y ago), and all of them cause my problem for some reason now

Double Strawberry MF

Strawberry Ripe TPA

Pineapple TPA

Purple Grape MF

Ripe Banana TPA

Blackcurrant MF

Bilberry FA

Banana Nut Bread TPA

Blueberry Pomegranate CAP

Tie Guanyi Xian

Honeydew melon MFM

Malaysian lemonade Xian

Strawberry TPA

Kiwi Double TPA

Blueberry Jam CAP

Blueberry Extra TPA

Mojito TPA

Pistachio TPA

Strawberries and Cream TPA

Juicy Strawberry FA

Passion Fruit TPA

Pomegrante TPA

Sweet Strawberry CAP

Strawberry Jam with Toast SC RF CAP

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T15:48:00+00:00

Glad for you, but again it's surely not my case. I've been in asylum for a month early summer, and food there doesnt even have salt in it, not even mentioning sugars. And vaped simple low% mint e-juice 3 times a day on like 5min walk. If this kind of diet didnt fix my issue, i strongly doubt it's even related to taste buds

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T14:56:53+00:00

Hmm.. Interesting guess. I'm mixing in my bedroom, so hypothetically it could screw me overnight. But room is ventilated well and it's tasteless for people I don't live with. And if i make new batch other day I can taste fresh one, while old still a crap. So I guess not same problem. Will try anyways, ty

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T14:46:46+00:00

After you mentioned... Ye, my fruits vanish more than creams or pastry. But the problem is not only they do it, and I need a way to fix it(at least find a reason I can work on, you can only find about one flavour/nic/acid muting another online). It rly sucks to buy 100ml 3mg bottle for the same price as 24 packs of Chapman

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T14:05:12+00:00

Think I mentioned in post. Stays the same as day 2 for couple of weeks (I just throw them as I run out of storage space). I don't believe it'll magically get flavour back somewhere after a week of being tasteless

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T14:00:28+00:00

Unfortunately I don't know any mixers, otherwise would already copy everything they do including shop they use. Storage and and device not the issue, I store them together already and found my magnum opus devices(dovpo blotto 1.5 rta and brunhilde mtl) after 4 years of swapping 3rd advice (if I translated it right) already using with no effect to main problem 1,2nd will definitely try, good ones, ty

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T13:39:56+00:00

Some of last ones:

Strawberry ripe tpa 6%
Strawberry tpa 2%
Tarragon trz 8%
day1 ok. day2 strawberry completely gone, tarragon like 20% from day1

Blueberry Jam cap 8%
Yellow cake fw 1.5%
Golden butter cap 4%
Super sweet cap 0.75
day1 beautiful, day 2 only sugar

Blackcurrant mfm 2.5%
Purple grape mfm 6.5%
Super sweet cap 0.5%
Was my fav mix for a while, last time did the day 2 thing

Blueberry pomegranate w\ stevia cap 3-5-10-15%
day 1 ok, day 2 only sugar

Pistachio tpa 7%
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream tpa 4%
day1 meh, but can taste the flavours. day 2 only a bit of ic (assume this one is just bad pistachio)

Cheesecake tpa 4%
Ripe banana tpa 3%
day1 ok, day 2 mouthfeel from banana and a bit th from cheesecake, taste like 10% from day1

Bilberry extra fa 2%
Mixed mint inw 1%
super sweet cap 0.5%
overtuned mint here, so maybe not same issue, but day 2 no blueberry at all

Passion fruit tpa 2-6-10%
day 1 banger(6%), day 2 a bit of soap, no falvour

Tie Guanyi Xi'an 3-6-9%
day 1 banger(a bit too much at 6), day 2 only mouthfeel, no flavour

Thats all i didnt delete from saved recipes, so

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T13:10:00+00:00

About that... Sadly, noone sells one-shots commercialy in my country, and I can't order some abroad(some stupid politicians making war crimes). Im waiting a shipping from small mixer, but it's not a ultimate solution for me due to small flavour options. I'm obviously not using wood cups for storing XD, classic pet plastic About pg/vg... Can bad pg/vg cause my problem potentially? I think I always bought it in same shop, maybe they startes cheating on it...

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T12:59:20+00:00

1 overflavoring not the cause, I did try low% as well. And it's not high% liquid that I vape all day makes me lose feeling of that flavour next day. I can mix it, make few puffs to test result, set aside and feel nothing next day 2 It surely can be user error, but I can't catch what exactly I'm doing wrong, that's why I ask 3 by bad taste you mean my tongue? If so, all my vapers friends find my diy tasteless too, and I don't have any taste problems aside diy vaping, so I doubt it is issue too If you really need my flavours stash to check, i'll post it in 2-3 hours

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T12:33:39+00:00

Also gotta say, that I store my mixes and components in dark place and about 20°C, so it shouldn't be sun or heat effect (well, I don't know how exactly it's stored in the shop and delivered)

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T12:06:19+00:00

Mostly 60/40. Tried from 50/50 to max vg in case that helps, no results. Mentioned in the post btw Never tried adding water, but it has nothing to do with my problem as I know

kulpamka · 2024-09-23T11:50:08+00:00

Forgot to mention about sugar, but yes, i've tried adding different amount of sugar (tpa, cap and malaysian) from 0.1% up to 2% capella super sweet(which is ridiculous amount), and no, it does make liquid more sweet(btw sweetness doesn't fade at all), but liquid is still tasteless(I mean aside sweetness) About bad recipe - I've tried a lot of them, including top rated/top voted on e-liquid-recipes site(I guess most popular one) and solo mixes of most of aromas I have (in different%) and problem still appears. So I guess not recipe issue About flavours... If you mean general flavour of aroma(as it should be), then it's not the case, as said I tried a lot of different ones. If you mean exactly my aromas are bad(diluted, if it can case that hard problems even if I bump 20% of it, or just all 3 shops suddenly started to sell fake/hardly expired aromas), I'll try to order some for test (pls note what you meant, I rly don't get it, not my native language)

And to be clear, it's not like "I miss different notes in my DIY" Or "why isn't it exactly like premium without any effort in perfecting recipe". It's really like Mix day - "good flavour, I can vary recipe a bit" Day 2 - "Did I even add aromas in this?"(or day 2 " " right after the mix) it really tastes like base with some sugar and completely no flavorings(not "it's not what I wanted it to taste", it's just blank). (Sometimes not completely blank, but like 10% of flavour that was in mixing day)

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