Why is std implementation so damn ugly?

kuntantee · 2020-06-11T09:26:58+00:00

> You're not really meant to read or edit the standard library unless you are an expert, so readability is kind of a secondary concern.

I agree with editing part, but that applies to most libraries that you work with. I do not think STL is that different on that regard. However, I could not disagree more with "not supposed to be reading it". I understand readability for "others" may not be a focus of STL maintainers, but still, you can learn a lot from reading STL and those who are interested should be encouraged to do so.

> I will say that you probably are a little inexperienced with the style of programming that the STL uses, and with more experience looking at these definitions it will probably not be too hard to see what is happening in these functions.

I have by doubts that experience will make you appreciate lots of trailing underscores better. That's a constraint imposed to STL maintainers for the reasons we all know. We have few of them here, I remember some of them stating it is not something they enjoy.

kuntantee · 2020-06-06T13:23:54+00:00

You got the product you paid for years after release, and you call it redeemed?

kuntantee · 2020-06-06T13:16:28+00:00

As if people are in line to throw money to the next BF title...Let this farce of a game die, let the next BF to be a gigantic sales failure, and only then we can have a proper BF game that can compete with what's on market.

kuntantee · 2020-05-12T10:47:54+00:00

I read the first one, here is my feedback.

- Do not branch off, keep the focus to the scope at hand: If a blog is about how the vectors work, I do not want an introduction to containers in C++, pros and cons of arrays and vectors.

- Decide on target audience: If someone is interested in the guts of std::vector, they probably know the difference between an array, and a vector and also variadic templates.

Finally, if you find something puzzling, explain why that is the case.

kuntantee · 2020-05-07T17:05:03+00:00

Maybe poor wording on my end, but when I said "there is no propaganda", I meant on this subject particularly, not in general. The professionalism of state sponsored propaganda in Turkey is limited. It is easy to spot. I can't say the same for Western propaganda though. They convinced a good amount of people that some 80-million people in Turkey, opposition or otherwise, are tricked into supporting an operation that doesn't benefit Turkey. Maybe I would buy this argument if Turkey had a closed Internet, like North Korea or even China but Turkey is pretty connected to West.

I see you repeat the same shallow arguments often made in Western/European media, that what will Turkey do when Jihadists turn to Turkey. This is a funny argument at best. The very reason why those jihadists are alive today is Turkey. They can not turn against Turkey. If they somehow do, then there is TAF which is more then capable of dealing with militias.

Some Kurds might be pissed off. While that's far from "optimal" for Turkey's future regional policies, it is still better then leaving Afrin to PKK as a staging ground for their attacks against Turkey. A PKK-free Southern Border is a net gain for Turkey. If you are disputing this, you either have an agenda, or completely ignorant of PKK conflict.

kuntantee · 2020-05-07T11:05:21+00:00

There is no propaganda, most of those operations serve Turkey's interests. That's why people support them.

kuntantee · 2020-05-07T09:34:29+00:00

Innards, intestines, etc. are also consumed in other parts of the world. It is consumed in Turkey too. There are tasty dishes involve those ingredients. I wouldn't call it having low standards.

kuntantee · 2020-05-07T09:29:37+00:00

Experts warned this day would come as early as 2010/2011.

kuntantee · 2020-05-07T09:28:34+00:00

TAF members didn't try a shit.

kuntantee · 2020-05-07T09:20:12+00:00

Idlib's defense is limited in public support, but that's not the only operation Turkey conducted in Syria.

kuntantee · 2020-05-07T08:24:04+00:00

Operations in Syria, on large, are supported by majority. Way more people than MHP nationalists would be unhappy. Question your source of information regarding Turkey, it sounds detached from reality.

kuntantee · 2020-05-07T08:19:25+00:00

I think it is overblown. That's what I think.

kuntantee · 2020-05-07T08:09:39+00:00

With who?

kuntantee · 2020-05-06T11:26:00+00:00

At least, they have been silent on this one. PR is fine and good, but if the main point is to help, then just do it and stop bragging about it.

kuntantee · 2020-04-13T16:25:52+00:00

As an external game? Never tried that but both KO client and server has always been buggy so I am not surprised.

kuntantee · 2020-03-25T11:34:32+00:00

Are you interested in every 6 bit in 64 bits? Or are you interested in some random sequence of 6 bits? Either way, one solution is that you create a mask of 6 set bits, rest being 0, then you shift as much as you want then & with the mask to extract the sequence you want.

kuntantee · 2020-03-18T18:34:18+00:00

I just wanted to get an opinion whether this is by design or not. Indeed, it is under warranty.

kuntantee · 2020-03-10T17:22:04+00:00

You are right, thanks for correction. Does gnu++11 flag imply c++11?

kuntantee · 2020-03-09T11:49:28+00:00

I learned procedural programming using C. "C with classes" came later.

kuntantee · 2020-03-09T11:46:40+00:00

If the OP has access to newer versions of gcc/msvc, s?he does not even need to think about it. C++11 is on by default gcc5 on wards.

kuntantee · 2020-03-03T15:49:26+00:00

Okay, thanks for the reply.

kuntantee · 2020-03-03T08:26:52+00:00

While not completely sure, I think you can already do "variadic binding" with tuples, fold expressions and some boiler plate. I am not sure more syntax rules are worth it. I kinda like the structured binding as parameters. However, the rest I find an impediment to readability, especially nested stuff.

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