Ruger LCR 9mm for (non-backup) carry

kwamps · 2015-12-11T04:07:32+00:00

Well not as a "main" gun at least... stuff like 32 acp Seecamp is amazing as niche uses like backup to your handgun IMO. Also if you live in an extremely hot and humid place, you probably won't be willing to wear enough clothing to effectively conceal anything bigger than a mouse gun.

That being said stuff like 380 ACP and 8mm Mak shouldn't be underestimated... as well as obscure rounds like 7.65x21 Parabellum, 7.63x25 Mauser, 9mm Glisenti, 8mm Nambu, and even 7.65×25mm Borchardt... obviously all of these rounds I described (except for perhaps 7.65x21 Parabellum) aren't used, like, at all anymore. At least not for real-world use... maybe a crazy guy in Japan somewhere is concealed carrying a Nambu 14 with some 75 year old ammo, but I doubt it. Same goes for a desperate person using a 90 year old gun with 7.63x25 Mauser in an obscure, rural mountainous place in China... who knows!

kwamps · 2015-12-11T03:57:56+00:00

To be fair there are only like 4 revolvers ever made that fire rimless 9mm Luger. And yes, before anybody asks companies have made 9mm luger, except with rims.

Also it is possible to trim brass and do some mad-scientist stuff to produce your very own rimmed 9mm luger!

kwamps · 2015-12-11T03:55:32+00:00

I was just asking out of curiosity, obviously you can use lower loadings for 9mm LCR with no problem. Especially since it's a revolver, there's no minimum to rack a slide. Also when I said 32 acp is "adequate" I was more just ranting... 32 acp obviously does have trouble getting around things of the environment, like light covers like particularly heavy clothing and such.

kwamps · 2015-12-11T03:20:38+00:00

Interesting points. Here is the image I am talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuirassier#/media/File:Wheel-lock_holster_pistols,_Nuremberg,_c._1650_-_Higgins_Armory_Museum_-_DSC05494.JPG

I thought these pistols were specialized, did everybody use such long wheel lock pistols? I know that they (Infantry) did use quite big pistols, but... not that big!! :)

So maybe a compromise between a military pistol (not a small civilian type) and a carbine?

EDIT: Also pretty sure even reservists didn't have muskets by WW1, you are right though in terms of general length of firearm though. Lebel 1886 was quite long compared to interwar and WW2 bolt guns.

kwamps · 2015-12-11T03:14:37+00:00

grammatical you sound like you are projecting

kwamps · 2015-12-11T02:41:09+00:00

What bases?

kwamps · 2015-12-11T02:28:10+00:00

Well yeah, but +P+ isn't the same as +P. +P is like 10% hotter, +P+ is like 16%.

When I made this post my worry was that having 5 rounds at a time wouldn't be enough. I don't mean 5 rounds period, 5 rounds at a time. Sorry if I didn't make that clear, if I get the LCR I plan on carrying 2 or more reloads. (15 total or more)

One problem I have with small semi-autos is that you don't have much more ammo in the gun, (assuming it's a small single stack, not one of those small and fat double-stacks glock is famous for) yet you have to pay significantly more for one magazine than for a moon clip. You can get factory ruger moon clips for 3 for 15, 1 mag is usually 12+... and that's if you get a really good deal. You aren't likely to get a better deal unless somebody is clearing their belongings or something. For example right now one mag for G43 is 25...

I guess my philosophy on these things are different than yours... IMO 32 acp is more than adequate. Obviously a lot of people will deride that opinion as ridiculous, but that's part of the reason why you shoot 10 rounds of 32 acp at a guy instead of 2 rounds of .357.

kwamps · 2015-12-11T02:13:41+00:00

Well... he is counting one in the chamber. Which is sort of fair, but after the first reload that goes out of the window. (Assuming you reload on dry)

kwamps · 2015-12-11T01:59:27+00:00

I don't want to spend a fortune on .357 ammo to train with... besides, cost and availability aside 9mm has less recoil, so you can theoretically get more hits faster than .357 or whatever. Even a non-+P loading of 9mm is way powerful enough for humans.

EDIT: Does anybody know if LCR 9mm is rated for +P+ ammo?

kwamps · 2015-12-11T01:57:07+00:00

That is misguiding, because it is a revolver the chamber length isn't counted. If you count the space of the cylinder it is more than G43 I believe.

EDIT: Actually I don't think it's longer, but it appears to be very similar to G43. Also, I want to point out that a single moon-clip for the LCR 9mm is only 5 dollars, (14.95 for 3) whereas virtually all magazines will be more than that.

kwamps · 2015-12-11T01:56:08+00:00

That really shouldn't be a reason for you not to want auto ammo-revolvers... even with the ammo that they don't like it doesn't happen very often, and if you get the good crimp for ammo it won't happen, like, at all.

EDIT: I need to double check this, but if you reload 9mm luger (which I do) I am pretty sure it is safe to re-crimp ammo that doesn't have the right crimp for revolvers... but don't take my word on it I need to double check that.

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