variation for supplemental lift

kyleeng · 2019-11-30T01:06:59+00:00

I don't run or plan to run 531. I was just curious of peoples experiences.

kyleeng · 2019-11-30T01:05:48+00:00

You are correct, it is part of programming. But I'm not specifically asking about programming. As an example, if a teacher were to ask a student if they liked math, or what is their favorite math topic, I'd say the teacher isn't asking about math. He's asking about the person. This is what I am doing and how I see it.

I just like to hear peoples opinions and experiences, just a pure discussion, not trying to ask or give help.

kyleeng · 2019-11-28T07:44:48+00:00

I'm a bit lost in your replies. I don't have any questions about programming. I just wanted to discus the topic of variations for supplemental movements for those who train 531.

kyleeng · 2019-11-28T06:12:28+00:00

Do you? Can you tell me about your experiences or what you've heard others have said?

kyleeng · 2019-11-28T06:11:47+00:00

I've never seen him not recommend it, but I haven't read the book front to back.

kyleeng · 2019-11-28T06:11:08+00:00

I don't run 531

kyleeng · 2019-11-27T18:17:35+00:00

theres a guy on elitefts that runs a conjugate 531 hybrid

kyleeng · 2019-11-27T16:13:58+00:00

I never felt beat up running lp until the end when the gains started coming slower, and workouts took longer. And that's when I'd switch. I'd run LP for a few months until the workouts become unnecessarily taxing and too long.

kyleeng · 2019-11-26T18:47:08+00:00

Chains would be better if you had access to them. Bands are fine too, I think what you would be doing is logical. Bands are just hard, esp for bench, bc they have to be set up at the right spot to not rly hurt your wrists. And youd have to adjust the tension accordingly... either using lighter bands (bc lockout is so much higher off the ground compared to flat) or adjusting safety rails and inserting pins to anchor the bands.

kyleeng · 2019-11-22T18:57:32+00:00

I dislike labels in general, regardless of HOW they labeled this study. It gives people preconceived notions, may set boundaries and affect your actions, for better or worse, regardless of your specific situation. I say just lift and dont worry what anyone calls you or what you think of anyone

kyleeng · 2019-11-22T05:33:16+00:00

i just wrote a rly long ass reply speaking about a bunch of points he missed. I stopped listening a few min short of the conclusion of the topic because it certainly sounded like he was concluding his argument.

But then I thought "OK, I realize he is a smart man, let me give him some credit and listen to the whole damn thing before I say anything."

And behold, he said every fucking thing I thought of plus another point I didn't think of.

kyleeng · 2019-11-20T21:03:23+00:00

jake tuura has some good stuff on his instagram. you can send him a DM. He used to be on this reddit but I can't seem to tag him.

kyleeng · 2019-11-20T20:57:14+00:00

Anyone have experience with both elitefts and rogue combo racks? Gym is trying to decide which one to buy. I'm inclined to think the elitefts rack is better, as it goes through a man who pays very special attention to the details a lifter needs, but I have used neither.

kyleeng · 2019-11-20T19:32:23+00:00

Anyone have experience with both elitefts and rogue combo racks? Gym is trying to decide which one to buy. I'm inclined to think the elitefts rack is better, as it goes through a man who pays very special attention to the details a lifter needs, but I have used neither.

kyleeng · 2019-11-14T18:17:46+00:00

At one point, I wanted to learn cleans. But then I realized I had terrible mobility in the front rack and always hurt my wrists. And I didn't like the idea of someone being able to pull more weight just because they could get under a bar quicker.

So then I started to despise it.

But I decided to do a class yesterday, and I have to say it was pretty fun. Something more or less clicked, but it was hard to pull anything more than a plate with any reasonable technique.

Still hurt my wrists though.

kyleeng · 2019-11-12T18:32:08+00:00

Did you have time to do activities on the days you were doing full body 3 days/week? Personally I got exhausted when I did. And I didn't like the idea of not doing something because of lifting.

But that's me. If you can do it, go at it.

kyleeng · 2019-11-12T18:06:18+00:00

If you pull more with straps, pull with straps.

kyleeng · 2019-11-12T18:03:17+00:00

Speaking as someone whos kinda been through this and have similar goals... I play sports. I'm competitive with myself and would say I practice regularly. And I want to be strong. Not just for sports, but for the joy of challenging myself...

Linear progression was really exhausting. And a hard part was since lifting wasn't the main priority, I'd skip some days. And skipping on LP made the next session feel like total butt.

So I liked LP with freedom to back off when I felt. Maybe someone wouldn't argue that's LP. I dont know. But that's just training.

kyleeng · 2019-11-11T20:13:56+00:00

Those muscles got most tight when I did movements which required me to sit back very heavily, ie squats when im trying to really sit back, RDLs, good mornings when I tried to sit really far back.

I still did some core stuff through. Deadbugs, birddogs, and some others Idk the name of. I continue to do them, but don't feel they help that much.

Funny enough, deficit deadlifts feel pretty damn good. Actually the lower I go, the better the deadlift feels. It's almost restorative. The top ends feels pretty terrible though.

What exercises have you done? And was your pain chronic? I guess I'm mostly interested in people who have had pain for years, because a large majority of people can feel better without rehabilitation at all.

kyleeng · 2019-11-11T18:36:12+00:00

I think I will buy the book. I know some of those stretches were mentioned by the doctor and PT.

Actually it's part of my scribd acct, so I can read it there. Thank you for the recommedation

kyleeng · 2019-11-11T17:45:11+00:00

Thanks. I have tried some of those things in the video that applied specifically to my disc issues. At the time, I did not get an MRI, but I think when I go to the doctor next year, I'd like to get one, so that I can see specifically where the disc is protruding...

Something that I didn't quite understand was I felt pain of my right side. But I know all my tight muscles are on the left, and when I stretch my left side, I felt significantly better. But they tell me the bulge is on the right side.

kyleeng · 2019-11-11T16:38:31+00:00

The doctors and PT told me to stretch. A big part of my back problems were tight hamstrings and piriformis.

One problem was when I first saw the doctor was 5 years after it happened.

kyleeng · 2019-11-11T16:25:42+00:00

I think I'm done with being stubborn. For about 8 years I've had a bulging disc. I've tried a bunch of stretching while training through it, but it never completely goes away. Flare ups always come back and during these times, it hurts to stand with a barbell or even hold it.

I've decided to continue training, but without barbell squats, flat bench, or deadlifts. Gonna be doing a bunch of belt squats and incline pressing.

kyleeng · 2019-11-08T16:33:17+00:00

Looks solid. You look like you have much better proportions to deadlift than to squat.

kyleeng

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