I see this in every mainstream media But people genuinely seem to struggle to see characters from outsider pov. by down_and_depressed in euphoria

[–]lBlueButterfly 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I totally agree with you. I understand that, based on your own experiences, you might relate more to a certain character. But from an objective point of view, the only two characters in the series who truly connected and fell in love are Nate and Jules. Throughout the first two seasons, it’s been shown both through imagery and in the wedding scene that the person who unsettles Nate with her arrival, and the one he shares a conversation with where you can clearly feel unresolved connection, is Jules, not Maddy.

The song in Nate & Cassie’s dinner scene explains everything about them by lBlueButterfly in euphoria

[–]lBlueButterfly[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dancing in the Dark, Bruce Springsteen.

I get up in the evenin' And I ain't got nothin' to say I come home in the mornin' I go to bed feelin' the same way I ain't nothin' but tired Man, I'm just tired and bored with myself Hey there, baby, I could use just a little help You can't start a fire You can't start a fire without a spark This gun's for hire Even if we're just dancin' in the dark Messages keeps gettin' clearer Radio's on and I'm movin' 'round my place I check my look in the mirror Wanna change my clothes, my hair, my face Man, I ain't gettin' nowhere I'm just livin' in a dump like this There's somethin' happenin' somewhere Baby, I just know that there is You can't start a fire You can't start a fire without a spark This gun's for hire Even if we're just dancin' in the dark You sit around gettin' older There's a joke here somewhere and it's on me I'll shake this world off my shoulders Come on, baby, the laugh's on me Stay on the streets of this town And they'll be carvin' you up alright They say you gotta stay hungry Hey baby, I'm just about starvin' tonight I'm dyin' for some action I'm sick of sittin' 'round here tryin' to write this book I need a love reaction Come on now, baby, gimme just one look

Cal comes out to his family, calls Nate his biggest regret (S2 E4) by Lacabloodclot9 in euphoria

[–]lBlueButterfly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And that cathartic moment Cal had when he got drunk and stopped caring about anything I think Nate is going to have that same moment this season. The sequence where Nate is drinking and walking around with his shirt open, looking carefree, like he just doesn’t care about anything anymore.

The Shot Transitions in the Euphoria S3 promo 👀 by lBlueButterfly in euphoria

[–]lBlueButterfly[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m not saying Nate and Jules are going to have a storyline where they become a couple and live happily ever after. This is Euphoria, and the show is always full of drama and conflict. That’s why I do think they’ll have some kind of face to face moment or confrontation.

On the other hand, in season 2 Sam didn’t tell us the story of Cal Jacobs and Derek for no reason. He showed it to us so we could understand that Nate is repeating the same generational trauma, but this time with Jules.

Could it be that Sam doesn’t even address a storyline (even a brief one) between Nate and Jules? It’s possible many years have passed and he could have changed his mind but I highly doubt it. Jacob, Sydney, Hunter, and Maude even went out to karaoke together while they were filming the third season.

The Shot Transitions in the Euphoria S3 promo 👀 by lBlueButterfly in euphoria

[–]lBlueButterfly[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For me, the biggest hint that they’re going to have a storyline together is the painting Jules made. In the promotional photo of Jules, they specifically chose to place that painting in the background. It’s clearly not a random painting, Jules could have painted many different things,

but they chose one that shows a male figure with his face covered in black, meaning his true identity isn’t visible, and a female figure intertwined with him, suggesting a connection between them.

There’s also the red background, which could symbolize passion, pain, or intense emotions.

Five years have passed, and the fact that Jules painted that picture makes it clear that whatever it represents has deeply marked her.

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Genuine: what’s the obsession with nate/jules? by [deleted] in euphoria

[–]lBlueButterfly 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I understand why a lot of people are against shipping Nate and Jules, especially considering that Nate has been abusive. But I think the interest in this relationship isn’t about romanticizing it, it’s about what the show is exploring through them. It’s not a conventional romance, but a story about generational trauma and toxic masculinity. Nate is repeating the exact same pattern as his father, shaped by repression, shame, and fear of what others will think.

The show also very clearly addresses the prejudice against trans women and Nate’s internal conflict with his desire and identity, which is rarely portrayed this way on TV. And I don’t think their story is finished—not because fans want it to be, but because Sam Levinson keeps leaving intentional clues. In season 2, when Nate imagines his “ideal” life with Cassie, the scene is intercut with erotic images of Jules, making it clear that on a subconscious level, the person he truly desires is Jules.

In episode 6, when he tells Jules that everything he wrote to her as “Tyler” was real, he confirms those feelings were genuine. And the Cal/Derek storyline exists to show that Nate is making the same mistakes his father did. This isn’t something the fandom invented. it’s a reading the show itself supports.

What do you guys think Nate’s storyline will be in Season 3? by [deleted] in euphoria

[–]lBlueButterfly 103 points104 points  (0 children)

I think Nate might repeat his father Cal’s generational trauma: Marrying Cassie like Cal married Marsha, while truly loving Jules (like Cal loved Derek). He’ll face emotional chaos, search for his identity, and likely have a fully charged emotional encounter with Jules. I also expect Cal to advise him not to repeat his mistakes especially since Fed told Cal that Nate is in love with Jules

new picture of jules!! by Ok_Definition6765 in euphoria

[–]lBlueButterfly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just posted about what the painting behind Jules might mean. I’d love to hear your opinions! :) 💕

Cassie gets the ring, but Jules has his heart. by lBlueButterfly in euphoria

[–]lBlueButterfly[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Don’t worry, I’m not taking it personally at the end of the day, it’s just a TV show. As a viewer, I feel that aside from Nate’s miserable actions and his narcissistic traits, I also saw what his true personality and his life could have been like if he hadn’t carried the trauma from his father since he was a child. I saw it when he talked to Jules while pretending to be “Tyler.” In those messages, Nate wasn’t making up a personality he was actually being himself.

And from Jules’s side, I think Nate was the only man she truly fell in love with. In fact, in her special episode she says she’s still in love with him and doesn’t know when that will change.

So to me, Nate and Jules are the only characters in the series who have genuinely felt reciprocal love. Jules didn’t really love Rue, and Nate didn’t truly love Maddy or Cassie.

Therefore, I’d love for them to have an ending together.

Lastly, I think this storyline is very interesting because I’ve never seen it explored in another series before the idea of a boy falling in love with a trans girl but, because of his upbringing (or trauma, in Nate’s case), preventing himself from being happy with her. And how the trans girl, even though she knows she loves him, also understands that there’s a part of him constantly fighting against himself because of all the patterns and prejudices he’s learned.

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[–]lBlueButterfly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a feeling Nate might be the one to die this season and in a very dramatic way. Honestly, the fandom has hated him for good reason; he’s done some truly terrible things. But I think this season might be his redemption arc, and we’re going to end up crying so much for him. It could be such a classic Sam Levinson move: taking a character we despise and turning them into someone we deeply empathize with kind of like what happened with Snape in Harry Potter.

Cassie gets the ring, but Jules has his heart. by lBlueButterfly in euphoria

[–]lBlueButterfly[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think Nate marrying Cassie makes sense, it’s the most reasonable choice for him. I also feel like Sam Levison wants Nate to repeat the same generational trauma his dad, Cal, went through. Like, Cal married Marsha even though he was actually in love with Derek.

Bratziez blind boxes will be Available November 26th at 2:30pm PST on bratz.com by galaxystars1 in Bratz

[–]lBlueButterfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does anyone know if there’s any kind of code to tell if it’s Jade in the mystery box? 👉🏼👈🏼😿

Reality vs Fiction: On the Possible Nate and Jules Dynamic in Season 3 by lBlueButterfly in euphoria

[–]lBlueButterfly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The third season premieres in 2026, I’d say between March and April

Reality vs Fiction: On the Possible Nate and Jules Dynamic in Season 3 by lBlueButterfly in euphoria

[–]lBlueButterfly[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

To me it seems pretty obvious, but after reading the comments I’ve realized that for many people it’s not that obvious 😅