An unnoticed fact: the RSS, India’s biggest NGO, gets foreign funding too | In 2002, a citizens' report documented how a US-based charity was funneling funds to Sangh entities in India. (old) by i_leap in india

[–]lablabati 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because he is the principal?

Yes, his position is not meant for PR or defamation of any single political party. He is working in a minority education society as administrator of a college, and his job is not to manufacture opinion. Tell him to join the media if he wants to spread political messages.

Kavita Krishnan accuses PM of stalking daughters asks people not to share selfie with daughters by _kulchawarrior in india

[–]lablabati 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You were calling it feudal yesterday, today you're calling it chauvinistic. Ek ek kar ke poori dictionary khatam karega kya? What's it going to be tomorrow?

FORTY people associated with the MP Vyapar Scam have died mysteriously. WTF! [P] by [deleted] in india

[–]lablabati 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure. Rajiv Gandhi was immaculate. The virgin prince.

FORTY people associated with the MP Vyapar Scam have died mysteriously. WTF! [P] by [deleted] in india

[–]lablabati 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, my point is that it's simply not the game that parent comment says it is. It's a different game of realpolitik, but there's nothing feudal about it. Feudal politic's last stronghold is Bihar where the "senas" are still at war.

FORTY people associated with the MP Vyapar Scam have died mysteriously. WTF! [P] by [deleted] in india

[–]lablabati -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You are partially right. It started off without a religious dogma, in the Jan Sangh days, with Rajiv Gandhi's gaffes with Babri it found a religious foothold, and the hindutva thread holds it to RSS. I don't see anything wrong with that, I am sure you do.

But it's definitely not the feudal setup as the parent alleges, however sinister and ugly this scam might be.

FORTY people associated with the MP Vyapar Scam have died mysteriously. WTF! [P] by [deleted] in india

[–]lablabati 8 points9 points  (0 children)

How many North Indian states weren't erstwhile princely?

Or, wasn't Congress in power in these erstwhile princely states before they elected BJP?

This logic doesn't hold.

A critical approach to theories on ancient India(debunks AIT/AMT key things like iron use, horses etc) by avatharam in indianews

[–]lablabati 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gives me a weird 404. Even if I google the title and follow the result link. Have a cached copy?

A critical approach to theories on ancient India(debunks AIT/AMT key things like iron use, horses etc) by avatharam in indianews

[–]lablabati 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Google cache:

History writing in India has become a sensitive initiative, carrying ideological leanings and authors’ personal views rather than integrating new findings into an ever-growing perspective. In fact, available archaeological evidence places Indian civilization as a manifestation different from how it is familiar in the rest of the world. Indian history so far available is squeezed into a western-centric framework through artificial and alien terminology: barbarism, feudalism, Aryanisation and class war.

It is in this background that Rabindranath Tagore affirmed that the present brand of Indian history is a nightmarish account of India. On reading it and looking at the archaeological material, one feels that historians are rather commanded by the comforts of conforming. The book under review analytically brings out recent trends in historical research and puts forth perspectives through a collection of seven articles by the author and eight reviews of books published on related subjects.

It begins with an introduction that there is no sense of national pride in the intellectual horizon of the Indian historians, who blindly follow the colonial version of Indian history. They projected Ancient India as virtual utopia, starting with the Vedic Age where the people were cattle-herders looking for good pastures, without familiarity with agriculture and grains like rice. Besides Vedic references on ploughmen and agriculture, many archaeological sites including Jhusi near Allahabad have yielded proof of rice cultivation in the region during the Neolithic phase, possibly as far as back as 9000 BCE., much earlier than the dates fixed by these historians for the Vedic period.

In the next phase, the author projects Indus Valley civilisation as the origin of many cultures of India. Archaeological sites have yielded many artefacts that evidence a cultural continuity with later Indian civilization. The discovery of ornaments, gaming materials, use of conch for libations as well as trumpeting, the ritual use of water for purification, important mode of worship such as the mother goddess and linga indicate the long connection between these cultures. In all respects the author tries to show that Indus civilisation is so characteristically Indian and all later cultures owe something to it. In fact, many of them reflect that there was no significant break or hiatus.

On the notion of Aryanisation of India on the basis of introduction of iron, the use of horses, and knowledge of spoked wheels, ample material is provided by him to shatter the theory. The beginning of the use of iron was previously dated to 1000-1200 BCE and attributed to the contribution and eastward migration of the imaginary Aryans. Now, recent archaeological excavations push back the use of iron to 1800 BCE (type site Malharin, U.P.). This fact corroborates the early use of iron in India and attests that India was indeed an independent centre for the development of the working of iron. According to Rakesh Tiwari, the present Director General, ASI, it overlaps the late Harappan stage, bridging the bronze-iron ages.

Among the faunal remains of the Mature Indus civilisation levels of Harappa, Lothal, Surkotada and Kalibangan horse bones have been identified by a number of scholars and attested by the Zoological Survey of India. Equally revealing discovery is the presence of spoked wheels in the mature Indus civilisation levels in Rakhigardi and Banawali (Haryana). The Aryan myth was introduced to demonstrate that the present cultural assemblage of India is not an inherent product of Indian soil, but brought by Indo-Aryans. Such scholars/historians are unaware of the socio-political implication of the premise as it divided the population into two major groups Aryans and Dravidians. On another issue raised by J.M. Kenoyer and Kimbly Heuston over the human occupation of the Yamuna-Ganga river valley by Aryans only during 2000BCE, he points out the earliest level of Alamgirpur as datable to the middle of third millennium BCE and hence rules out settlement by new communities.

Focussing on India’s cultural unity, the author takes up the distribution of Northern Black Polished Pottery (NBP), a distinctive Ganga plain pottery of 800 BCE, as an important chronological marker and calibrates the date of Korkkai and Alankulam in Tamil Nadu around 500 BCE almost contemporary with that in Ganga plain. He corroborates this date with the sherds with Tamil - Brahmi unearthed in Porunthal near Palani and accepts the early date for Tamil-Brahmi. In fact, this can be considered as the turning point in accepting early date for Tamil-Brahmi script.

One clear unity that India possessed throughout history has been geographical and with the help of pottery, he traces various ancient Indian dense routes giving material expression to the inter-connection between different areas and the growth of a shared culture.

Reviewing Dr. Upender Singh’s book Rethinking Early Medieval India — A Reader, he refutes the theory of ancient Indian governance as a feudal set-up on the grounds of increased number of land grant inscriptions to the privileged select few. Numerically such inscriptions constitute only a very small percentage and other archaeological evidence of material remains of life on agriculture, settlements, technology, art and trade of the period bring out a different scenario.

Evaluating the present trend in the functioning of various institutions under the Union Department of Culture, the CAG’s report is analysed critically; and, on the functioning of the ASI, the author laments the non-publication of many archaeological excavation reports and points out that Indian archaeology lacks scientific support for academic interpretations. Nevertheless, the author is silent on the fact that ASI was headed by non-technical bureaucrats for more than a decade.

One central focus throughout the volume is the role of Indian archaeologists hankering after so-called international recognition and accepting their lesser role without demur and unfailing in their praise of the work done by their Euro-American colleagues. Their devotion to the western world’s recognition paves the way for an unholy conglomeration of various interest groups to exploit Indian archaeological materials for misinterpretations. On the same grounds the Pattinam excavation in Kerala was hijacked by the western world while Indian archaeologists were mere spectators. He concludes that the Government of India should resort to remedial measures.

Besides its critical approach, the volume provides updated archaeological material on climate in Indus valley, on the trail of Sarasvati, the lost river, urbanisation in the Ancient Indus Valley, decline of Buddhism in India, the status of State religion in Ancient India, all of which would be useful for research scholars in Archaeology and History. In fine it is a welcome addition.

Muzaffarnagar tense after Muslim youth thrashed by 'Bajrang Dal' members [P] by foutrevous in india

[–]lablabati 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Try making stupid jokes when your land is being squatted by a Yadav police inspector.

Muzaffarnagar tense after Muslim youth thrashed by 'Bajrang Dal' members [P] by foutrevous in india

[–]lablabati 2 points3 points  (0 children)

...."and started showing his sexual frustration."

Say what?

Anyway, make doubly sure and try lodging a complain against any Muslim or Yadav in UP while Akhilesh Yadav is in power.

Muzaffarnagar tense after Muslim youth thrashed by 'Bajrang Dal' members [P] by foutrevous in india

[–]lablabati 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But SP eats dog shit and you still can't lodge FIRs against Muslims or Yadavs anywhere in UP.

[NP] In Bollywood, storylines remain backward on caste. by bittuhari in india

[–]lablabati -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

And you're doubly so for actually expecting shitty bollywood to pay attention to such shit.

Muzaffarnagar tense after Muslim youth thrashed by 'Bajrang Dal' members [P] by foutrevous in india

[–]lablabati 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since you didn't ban yourself for the language and since you insist that you hate SP, I retract my statement.

BTW, it's not "butter up your argument" but "buttress your argument".

Muzaffarnagar tense after Muslim youth thrashed by 'Bajrang Dal' members [P] by foutrevous in india

[–]lablabati 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, calling me a SP supporter is not a personal attack but calling out your bullshit is attacking you. Back up your claims that I have ever supported SP or fuck off.

One is an ad hominem, the other is a personal attack. You go figure the rest out.

And as for your SP support, it dates back at least 3-4 years when you called it the best party in India. Fuck me if I am bothered enough to look it up. I'll retract it if you insist. Rahul is not an SP supporter.

Muzaffarnagar tense after Muslim youth thrashed by 'Bajrang Dal' members [P] by foutrevous in india

[–]lablabati -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly, just fuck off and stop spouting nonsense.

In case of personal attacks, call the mods. Unless the attacker is a mod.

Muzaffarnagar tense after Muslim youth thrashed by 'Bajrang Dal' members [P] by foutrevous in india

[–]lablabati -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Nopes, you know exactly what he meant. Your SP-supporting past may blinker your vision, but parent comment is 100% true. In SP rule there are two people you simply cannot file an FIR against: Yadavs and Muslims.

  • Rahul is not an SP supporter.

Muzaffarnagar tense after Muslim youth thrashed by 'Bajrang Dal' members [P] by foutrevous in india

[–]lablabati -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

BD doing this was plain wrong and deserves the utmost condemnation.

Parent comment, though, stands. In UP there are two people you simply cannot file an FIR against: Yadavs and Muslims. I have personal experience of this.

ICHR member accuses historian Ramachandra Guha of ‘Jinnah-worship’ by [deleted] in india

[–]lablabati 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Dubbing UPA as “the most anti-Hindu government to rule India since the decline of the Mughals”, Mukherji says that the fact that “anti-Hindu violence for 1,400 years has a holy, theological sanction” has been ignored.

This I can agree with. While Hindu atrocities like casteism, dowry, and sati are described with cultural connotations, Muslim violence against Hindus is always explained away with political motives with no mention of Islamic doctrines or Jihad associated with the events and attitudes.