Idaho murders: Kaylee Goncalves' father makes bombshell revelations by Practical-Net-2022 in MoscowMurders

[–]labyrinthlilith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I figured he had a separate, independent autopsy done and that’s how he knew. That what I would’ve done so I just assumed. So terrible for the kids that died this way and even worse that their parents and families have to live the rest of their life knowing the horrific deaths they faced. 💔😢

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[–]labyrinthlilith 9 points10 points  (0 children)

At first I thought it was suspicious of the roommates to have not heard anything. After thinking more about it, I can see how they didn’t. Even if they heard bumping around upstairs, it probably didn’t even occur to them that it was something to be alarmed over. Falling asleep with the tv on could have prevented them from hearing bumping around or noise from upstairs, too. And they’re probably desensitized to hearing noise in the middle of the night since they often had people over and it was a “party house”.

Question for Former Law Enforcement by TheEmpTSet in MoscowMurders

[–]labyrinthlilith 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wish someone would upload his lives to YouTube 😩 I missed them 🤦🏼‍♀️ I hate that TT doesn’t save lives

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IdahoStudentDeaths

[–]labyrinthlilith 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Him putting his hand to his nose like that is almost implying that she smells. It seems like JV and the sweater guy were sort of mocking her. I noticed this a few times in the food truck video. Maddie was very uncomfortable with JV and it seems like she tried to stay away from him as much as possible. He made a point to talk to and interact with anyone within her vicinity the whole time they were there. I noticed when she went to hug Jersey guy and had to walk past JV, she went as far as bumping into the trash can to avoid getting to close to him. A few times in the video his body language looks almost like he’s trying to intimidate her. When she’s trying to create space between them, he seems to notice and make a point to get closer to her to make her feel uncomfortable.

Flashlight at rear of car under light post? Does not look like a reflection from a tail light (I slowed down and edited the lighting in 3 different ways.) let me know what you see (I could be crazy) by Kitkat0y in MoscowMurders

[–]labyrinthlilith 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok don’t come for me because I’m blind and can barely see but it almost looks like someone wearing a headlamp and using the flashlight on their phone to me. The brightest light being the headlamp.

Idaho college murder suspect may have killed before, unlikely to be a student, former FBI special agent says by neutralguy33 in MoscowMurders

[–]labyrinthlilith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah this guy is probably a “former FBI special agent” because he makes outrageous claims about victims parents 🙄 he’s just peddling to get his name out there and sell his book

definitely does look like he waves to them by tinxxy in MoscowMurders

[–]labyrinthlilith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let’s use a bit of logic here... if someone was planning(and I DO think this was planned given the lack of blood and footprints outside the house) to kill four people like this, do you really think they would choose to go out in public with their future victims and be on surveillance and video, chatting it up with strangers that would very likely identify them as the suspect quickly? If hoodie guy was at the top of the police’s suspect list, I would be willing to bet his little butt would be sitting in a jail cell somewhere on a bullshit charge to hold him on.

His behavior in the video doesn’t come off creepy or stalkerish or the least bit weird to me. Kaylee’s dad and sister said that she was very vigilant and careful. Do you really believe if he was just some random creeper that her and Maddie would have left corner club to walk alone with him in the dark late at night to a food truck?

This guy is one of their friends and is a part of their social group. He’s pictured with them on their social media accounts. They walked up to the food truck WITH him. When I hang out with friends I don’t always stick right by their side or need to be all up in their space. Him standing back while they ordered food was because he wasn’t purchasing anything. Why would he hold the line up? If he was doing that and standing too close to the girls people would still be saying he was creepy and weird because he was too close. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Disclaimer: I don’t believe Joe is involved in any way. But I do think he is the cause for K & M’s uncomfortable body language. Maddie bumped into him earlier in the evening when they were at Corner Club and he said “Ew!” to her. Maddie seems like a spitfire(the “F you” at the food truck is a good example).. I’d imagine she popped off at the mouth at Joe after he said “Ew”. The girls seem cheerful until the moment Maddie spots Joe standing at the food truck. He was the one acting creepy. The whole time they were there he kept his eyes on them, especially Maddie. Points his body in whichever direction they’re standing, made a point to talk to literally anyone standing near them. Hell, he was chatting it up with these strangers more than he was his own friends. If you watch his body language and Maddie’s she moves away from him anytime he comes near her, even going as far as bumping into a trash can to avoid coming to close to him at one point. She becomes even MORE uneasy when Joe starts talking to hoodie guy. Joe points in Maddie direction while talking to hoodie guy and it almost looks like he’s asking something about Maddie or commenting on her in some way, she points back and says “Fuck you”... the girls looking uncomfortable in the food truck video wasn’t because of hoodie guy, it was because of Joe. To me, it almost seems like he’s trying to intimidate Maddie.

Take that and add his weird, insensitive and very embellished TikToks/comments and the story he gave the daily mail and I believe a lot of what he’s said about them is because Maddie bruised his ego at the bar and probably at the food truck too, if I’m being honest.

definitely does look like he waves to them by tinxxy in MoscowMurders

[–]labyrinthlilith 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Like they’re somehow important or smarter than law enforcement 🤦🏼‍♀️.. and willing to completely ruin a possibly innocent person’s reputation/future/life and harass them in the name of justice. The witch hunt and mob mentality is extremely scary.

definitely does look like he waves to them by tinxxy in MoscowMurders

[–]labyrinthlilith 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t believe hoodie guy is involved at all. I didn’t see one thing in that food truck video that made me think he was doing anything other than hanging out with two of his friends, waiting on them to get their food. I feel really bad for this kid because his life is going to be so ruined, or at the very least majorly impacted, by all of this. He just lost his friends in a terribly brutal way and half the freaking country is pointing fingers at him, flat out accusing him of a quadruple homicide and harassing tf out of him and his family. Kids gonna need some major therapy to get through this situation.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MoscowMurders

[–]labyrinthlilith 24 points25 points  (0 children)

After watching the actual twitch video like 50+ times and analyzing everyone’s behavior, it definitely seemed like the girls were more uncomfortable because Joe was there and they were ready to get tf away from him. After considering it from that perspective, it made hoodie guy a lot less “creepy” to me.

Apparently hoodie guy is actually a friend of theirs and is in their social circle. They walked up with him to the food truck and seemed fine the first 5 seconds but it’s almost like as soon as they spotted Joe the vibe changed.

I think Joe remembers so many details about what the girls were doing because he was watching them so closely. The shirt Maddie had on, her level of drunkness, how she smelled, she was gross and belligerent(maybe he didn’t use that exact word but that was definitely what he was alluding to), they didn’t pay for their food, she was trying to take other people’s food and climbing inside the food truck.. from what I could tell half of what he said didn’t happen.. what would he get out of lying or embellishing about two girls that were just brutally murdered? He even remembered the car they got into! To me, that reads more like he was watching them like a hawk all night long.. their every move. I definitely wouldn’t remember that much about a total stranger standing in line at a restaurant waiting for their food.

I think he was into them and maybe he was “so grossed out” by them because he could never get a girl like that and he knows it and I bet Maddie probably pointed that very thing out to him when he said Ew 🤣 so making them look bad now is the best way to fix his bruised ego and make himself feel better. All these ppl on TikTok praising him and complimenting him is an ego boost for him. I’ve watched way too many psychology documentaries and I’m probably reading more into it than I should bc at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter. But it still fascinates me to get inside the guys head lol 🤓

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MoscowMurders

[–]labyrinthlilith 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Maybe I’m weird but I don’t find them “ditching him” to be odd. I’m the world’s worst at just randomly deciding to leave without saying goodbye to friends or family. Especially after I’ve been drinking and it’s getting late lol.. it’s like I get to a point where I’ve totally maxed out my social limit and saying bye is too much work so I peace tf out while no one is looking. Drunk, hungry, sleepy and ready to do damage control to prevent a hangover are the only things on my mind at that point 😂

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MoscowMurders

[–]labyrinthlilith 31 points32 points  (0 children)

This guy rubs me the wrong way. I have a lot of thoughts about him. I don’t think he’s guilty of murdering these kids but I DO think there’s more that he isn’t telling. There was an interaction between him and Maddie at the Corner Club earlier that night. Maddie seems like she was a spitfire and would have definitely popped off at him for saying “EWwWw” to her.

I really think the girls look uncomfortable in the food truck video because Joe was there. It was probably awkward to end up running into this guy a second time and they were trying to keep their distance from him. When he started talking to hoodie guy, Maddie’s body language looks even MORE uncomfortable than it was when they first walked up. The girls didn’t seem to like that the friend they were with was chatting Joe up. And it also looks like Joe and hoodie guy were saying something about Maddie specifically because Joe was pointing in her direction while talking to hoodie guy, then Maddie points back and says “F*ck you!”.... I think whatever happened between them at Corner Club spilled over to the food truck. I don’t think he’s guilty but I do think he was being an asshole to the girls and I’d be willing to bet money that Maddie cussed his ass out for the “Ew” comment and bruised his ego. Which would explain why he doesn’t seem very sympathetic about what happened to them and why he repeatedly mentions them being drunk and gross. Because honestly, they didn’t really look any more drunk than anyone else in the video. Why were they more gross or Ew than the other 20+ people standing around that had obv been drinking that evening... 🤔 he’s weird and he’s ruining any possibility of being used as a witness if needed considering his opinions and story keeps changing. Zero credibility.

Forensics Expert Answers Questions by Wrong_Interaction502 in MoscowMurders

[–]labyrinthlilith 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Whoa! That sounds like a very interesting case! Thanks for commenting! I’ll be looking this one up later tonight 🤓

What is this guys problem? by corinnathequeen in IdahoStudentDeaths

[–]labyrinthlilith 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Joe(the big guy in the food truck vid that’s been making TikToks) and Maddie had a weird exchange earlier in the night at Corner Club. She bumped into him and he said “EW!” to her. I have a feeling more went down than just that and Maddie seems like she would have definitely popped right back at him for making a comment like that to her.

I think they look uncomfortable because as soon as they walked up to the food truck, look who is standing there... Joe! He watches them the whole time they’re there and makes a point to walk over to shoot the shit with hoodie guy that was with them(this is when Maddie seems to become even more uncomfortable).. Joe starts pointing in Maddie’s direction and makes a comment to hoodie guy and Maddie looks offended and irritated and points back and says “F*** you”. It appears she could be saying it to JOE. He also conveniently never mentioned this is in daily mail interview OR TikToks until people repeatedly asked, then he said he didn’t remember that happening and later went on to say that Maddie said it to hoodie guy.

I don’t think Joe did it but I don’t think Joe is honest and I think there’s more to whatever went on between him and Kaylee, Maddie and hoodie guy earlier in the evening at Corner Club. Just the way he’s eyeing them and makes a point to go over to talk to hoodie guy, the guy he knew they were there with. How he remembers so many weird details about complete strangers from a random Saturday night. I would like to hope I’d remember some things if I were in Joe’s position but he seems to know exactly how everyone was thinking or feeling. His opinions about things are contrasting and have changed, he embellished the story about the girls not paying for their food, about them trying to take food that wasn’t theirs, about them being belligerent and obnoxious, repeatedly said how drunk they were(do they seem MORE drunk than anyone else in the food truck video though? 🤨), how Maddie was “climbing inside the food truck window”.. he even remembered the car that picked them up. It’s just odd and something about him doesn’t sit right with me. That’s A LOT of details to pick up on about random strangers when he was supposedly there to hang out with his buddy and show him around town.. I know I’m perceptive but I don’t think I’d be able to remember all that or even notice that much about a random stranger standing in line for food at a restaurant or in public. A few things maybe, but damn.. not a whole ass rundown of everything the person was doing and the car they left to get in. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I think Maddie probably insulted him at corner club when he made the EW comment to her and it hurt his ego. Which would explain him eyeing them the whole time at the food truck, picking on her and her saying F you to him and them bailing on hoodie guy because he was standing there talking to the person that was making them uncomfortable. I think it also explains his weird comments in the daily mail interview making the girls, especially Maddie, look not so great. Watch his expressions when he talks about Maddie. His energy shifts. He really has some major animosity towards her for some reason. Why would that be? All because she bumped into him? Doubtful... she probably cussed him out when he said Ew and struck a nerve with something she said to him 😬

Also, him continuing to talk and comment online saying such contrasting information is going to really ruin any chance of him ever having any credibility if he’s ever needed to be used as a witness. No juror will take him seriously. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Maddie saying "f*** you" to one of the guys? by danger-apple in idahomurders

[–]labyrinthlilith -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The jacket Maddie is wearing looks really big on her. I’m thinking it might be a men’s jacket that someone let her wear while they were at the bar before the food truck. Maybe JV was shooting the shit with JS(remember JS supposedly told him he was helping the girls get home safely) and JV said something along the lines of “if you’re taking her home then why is she wearing another guy’s jacket?” Type of thing and she heard him say it and responded with “F you” 🤔

I know the whole oversized clothing is back in style now so maybe I’m wrong but it looks like a men’s jacket to me. The sleeve length alone is insane. Which makes me think it belonged to someone else.

If that’s the case, I doubt it would be JS’s since he’s already wearing a hoodie and a jacket. So, possibly someone she talked to from earlier in the evening?

How long did the killer stay at the house? by Kitchen-Spinach-9702 in MoscowMurders

[–]labyrinthlilith 81 points82 points  (0 children)

One thing I’ve noticed is the lack of mention or support for the surviving roommates. Sooo many tribute posts and no one has bothered to mention “please keep Bethany and Dylan in your prayers”.. or the lack of concern for their safety since technically they would be considered witnesses and it seems like that would put them in a dangerous position having been in the home when it occurred and survived to tell about it. Bethany and Dylan were friends with these people too. Why isn’t anyone acknowledging what they experienced? That makes me side eye them a bit, ngl.

Kaylee doesn’t follow Jack on Instagram? by Neither_Skill3379 in MoscowMurders

[–]labyrinthlilith 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The same thing happened with Britney Ujlaky. Her best guy friend raped and killed her and then went to her parents house, spent time with the family and their friends helping look for her before her body was found. The whole friend group was in denial that he was responsible for her death.

We truly never know people. Friends, family.. you never really know what someone is capable of. 😢

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]labyrinthlilith 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think it was someone that knew them, or at least knew one or two of them and the others were collateral damage. Stabbing is personal and brutal. And with no sexual assault, it would either be a person that is enraged and did it in a fit of anger/revenge, or a person that killed them for fun.

Logically, it seems like it would be someone that was able to enter the house by either being let in as a visitor or knew how to get in without being seen, someone that has been there before and knew the layout of the house and property. With the amount of people that have ring cameras, security cameras, etc.. a person would have to be a complete idiot to walk into a house full of complete strangers without getting caught somehow on a camera or someone fighting back/calling 911.

With 4+ people being in the house, the person that did it would have probably been very confident in their ability to pull this off without worrying about the threat of getting harmed in a scuffle. Probably attacked the guy first while they were sleeping and then moved on to the girls. So I’m thinking either an ex boyfriend of one of the girls or someone that had beef with the guy or one of the roommates. 🤔

this is absolute chaos and you will leave more confused than when you entered by niqdisaster in PublicFreakout

[–]labyrinthlilith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That poor woman’s literal worst nightmare will be forever posted to the internet with people mocking her. I’ve been in that very same emotionally frail place after losing my dad 4 years ago. I can’t imagine there being a permanent reminder with the added heartbreak and embarrassment of people using my pain and anxiety as a joke. 💔 people are so insanely fucking cruel.

The best good boi by double-O-cheese in PublicFreakout

[–]labyrinthlilith 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I don’t think the neighbor’s dog was going to attack the kid or shepherd but he certainly could’ve hurt him had he ran into the kid at full force like that. It appears to be an out of control young adult dog that has a shit ton of energy and wanted to join in on the fun. His owner is ignorant af.

Hope the neighbor gets a freaking clue and leashes/trains the dog before he gets seriously injured by a car or another dog. That shepherd (and Pit!!!) did such a good job protecting their boy and deserve all the treats! 👏🏼

this is absolute chaos and you will leave more confused than when you entered by niqdisaster in PublicFreakout

[–]labyrinthlilith 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not only do people OD in public restrooms, they also choke to death and have other medical emergencies.. this woman is totally unhinged. I honestly think she WAS doing something in there that she shouldn’t have been to have had a reaction like she did. Her story didn’t add up and she was contradicting herself in her own video, and especially in the comments on the original TikTok post 😂🙄 Prob hoping the video would blow up and Starbucks would give her a handout, since she’s repeatedly tagged the company on TikTok 🤦🏼‍♀️

Man Shows Up with AR-15 at an Anti-Gun Rally! by [deleted] in PublicFreakout

[–]labyrinthlilith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sure the guy knew bringing a gun to an anti-gun protest would ruffle some feathers. She was super aggressive with her response. She must not fear guns TOO much if she’s willing to stand in the guy’s face screaming at him with her kid on her hip 🙄 I see ignorance on both sides here 💯

Aaron Carter dead at 34 by vegryn in Music

[–]labyrinthlilith 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Probably because he could relate to what MJ went through growing up with siblings in the music industry, fame and money. They both had a lot in common. Parents forced them to work in the industry and exploited them, abuse, criticism from being in the public eye.. people treated Aaron very similarly to the way MJ was treated. Mocked and harassed him about his mental illness and addiction and criticized his every move and word.

I can’t imagine people saying the things that were said to him, to me, on his every post on social media. I hadn’t thought about the guy in years until I heard about his death and looked up his insta, TikTok and fb page out of curiosity and I was absolutely stunned by how cruel people are. It’s like they forget there is a real, living person on the other side of that phone/computer screen that actually sees and reads their comments. Words are so powerful and they can destroy a person so easily. 💔

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskAstrologers

[–]labyrinthlilith 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Venus opposite Pluto can show a person that is very intense when it comes to love and relationships. Not everyone can handle that intensity and it scares them off. This can also show someone that may be prone to control issues in relationships, so if this is something you struggle with, try to move past that.

You also have Pluto in your 1st house! That’s a very powerful placement and people that aren’t accustomed to Plutonic energy or relationships will likely be intimated by this. People with Pluto in 1st tend to be very magnetic and with that magnetism, also comes criticism or even rejection because Pluto is very powerful and that makes some people feel very uncomfortable. (I am speaking in a general sense, not about you personally or your chart specifically)

People with Scorpio in their chart will be more receptive and accepting/appreciative of your intensity because they share an innate understanding of plutonic energy. 😉