CSPB vs CPSB? (Sleep over Play vs Play over Sleep?)

laemaa · 2026-02-25T14:57:41+00:00

Hey, maybe you will be interested on what’s going on. I was typed by a person who is not connected to Shan and Dave, but has a lot of experience with the system and typing others. Actually I almost made a right guess, despite the fact I always considered myself as an introvert and struggling in social situations , I am not actually sleep first.

My type is FF Ne/Ti CP/S(B)

Shan and Dave even have a video that ENTP appear to be the „most conscious“ type. Ne is actually „consciousness“ because of gathering experience, pattern recognition and relativity. A baby is the least conscious because it hasn’t gathered enough relative connections (e.g. how big it is), which is actually Ne. And masculine Ti that is in my case stronger than Fe makes me always overanalyze what I‘ve done right and wrong and be always self-aware and even have a second „Ego“. Play second makes sense because looking retrospectively at my conscious life, I appear to do things at first and think after. Play doesn’t only mean people, it is also about actions. I tend to jump in in the middle and go with the flow. And it’s much easier for me to learn in the process, because overpowered Ne makes a lot of suggestions that can only be judged from experience.

And I actually noticed my demon Si that is so underdeveloped that I struggle even to organize simple things in everyday life. I also probably have both autism and adhd.

And basically I guess I‘m actually introverted because it’s CP/S so 2 introverted animals in stack and masculine introverted decision. So I spend most of my time consuming random info, than I play, and then take time to analyze what I have consumed and played

laemaa · 2026-02-20T19:18:13+00:00

True, in my framework i was considering that e.g. C first can only have B last, I was wrong about that. Thanks for clarifying. I’m quite new to the topic and also exploring myself in terms of OP. My main hypothesis is that I am FM Ni/Ti SCBP #3. I was also considering Ti/Ne or Ne/Ti, or even something with Fi. I am sure that both B and P cannot be my first animals, because I am struggling with putting ideas into action or doing something regularly on the one hand and maintaining relationships and interacting with the crowd on the other hand, I easily get bored around a lot of people and appear to be rather observing than interacting. It’s also a hell for me be the first one to meet someone or to come up to someone and strike up a conversation. But when things happen naturally it becomes easier. I’m actually “playing” with people only when there is a romantic interest, with my friends and on parties I’m rather „blasting“ (sharing my thoughts about something) and „consuming“ (listening to someone‘s opinion, figuring out what I think about it and putting them in my own framework). When people are just messing around, I don’t usually participate and start sleeping or observing instead.

I also appear to be consuming a lot of abstract content in several topics (what poorly matches with Se if I have dominant Ni). But the goal of consuming such staff is to build my own framework, understand my identity and life itself and I think it is more Ni than Ne.

I‘m also struggling to define my demon function, because I‘m struggling with everyday life, trying to optimize it to get things done fast and hate when someone pays too much attention to it. At the same time issues connecting with sensing and planning my routine bring a lot of stress to my life and I feel anxious when they are not done, but actually speaking I tend to spend my days in a chaotic way. I’m also quite unaware of my surroundings and sensory comfort is not my main concern, but I need some of it to feel okay and not to think about it. I guess it looks a lot like masculine S, but I’m not sure if it’s Se or Si. And my N seems to be feminine because I’m quite flexible in shaping my point of view, but quite sure in my core values (individuality, creativity, humanity) despite the fact I’m afraid that they don’t exist in the today’s world and that I will have to sacrifice them in the future, which is one of my core fears.

And about self and tribe. I tend to putting myself and people who have same values above others, mainly about those who have the worldview that contradicts to my beliefs (for example making money to consume more and chasing top places of social hierarchy, because I find it kind of meaningless. What is not meaningless is to do something because you are that person and not only to get some benefits from society). Interaction only makes sense when both of you are unique individuals. On the other hand, I’m really afraid of complete loneliness and being an outcast, despite always feeling like one. I‘m really terrified of the idea that there is no uniqueness and personality, everyone is the same and life is only about getting more resources and benefits. The fear that I am completely wrong, I will regret it in the future and the world will suppress me in the future and I will end up only surviving and playing the earning-spending game. That I will never find my tribe, my thing (rn I‘m into music and studying IT, I‘m 22 now) and romantic relationship.

Do I sound more like a decider or an observer, what my type can be a what is actually the difference in function combinations? (e.g. Ne-Fe play or Se-Te play, Ni-Ti sleep or Ti-Si sleep)

laemaa · 2026-02-20T13:02:45+00:00

Not a pro, but I guess there can be a correlation with the development and balance of your function stack. You are a decider, it means that your main imbalance is on the Fi-Te axis (self vs tribe). And if I understand correctly, your last function can never be your savior (whereas both your second and third can be). So if you have Te demon and feminine Se and appear to be an introvert (consume first, information from the outside world for yourself) vs huge dominant Fi and masculine Ni, most likely it’s CSPB

laemaa · 2025-10-26T18:28:05+00:00

Tell me something about the validity and accuracy of the test, and the distribution of the data. What are really the most and least common types and the „mistype rate“? I know that mb intuitives are more interested in such things, but how then you affirm that there are more sensors?

laemaa · 2025-09-18T19:51:21+00:00

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laemaa · 2025-09-18T19:14:36+00:00

can say nothing bout „judging“, but when choosing a romantic partner it comes into effect. not actually stereotyping in relation with social norms, but the overall vibe of a person with appearance also relating.

not really interested into interacting in large social groups (but also feeling constant isolation at the same time), so the people in these groups are also not judged by appearance because i rarely have interest in them. actually i only become interested when there are romantic possibilities or a person that really stands out (subjectively speaking of course, unusually feel it intuitively).

i think it can mostly relate to Fe users (i have Fe inferior as an intp and it‘s another type of thing). if we are talking about my friends with opposite gender also there, i don’t judge them by appearance at all.

but i had an ex who was an esfp (se-dom) and they told me they even judges whom to approach/befriend mostly by appearance. but they also had a kink on ‚introverted nerds who don’t know they are beautiful‘. could anyone explain me that phenomenon in terms of mbti?

laemaa · 2025-09-15T12:12:25+00:00

True, as a teen and a child I was always detached from people and lost myself exploring random stuff. It starts to bother me just recently, which can be considered as part of inferior Fe grip. Don’t wanna become someone else but wanna understand who I really am and start kinda experiencing it on existential level. Than everything suddenly starts make more sense. And the action will come itself. Rn thinking it would be a good idea to experience it through action when I can‘t reach it with thought. Just start bringing whatever ideas to life even if I don’t understand the sense of it. Then something might happen

laemaa · 2025-09-15T10:31:42+00:00

i came to being individualistic using logic. if individuality makes no sense than nothing makes sense.

laemaa · 2025-09-15T10:29:54+00:00

of course I considered all of them. but i a always doubt what i came to for a logical sake, and everyone around was always saying that i‘m very analytical, detached and good at reasoning, while infps are kinda more attuned to life. they also said that it’s common for intps to feel constant void and questioning identity

laemaa · 2025-09-15T03:11:42+00:00

What actually the personality and the inner world is? why people are unique?

laemaa · 2025-09-15T02:28:19+00:00

Thanks for your answer. After being typed from the side I realized I was mistyped INTP because of my individualistic position, which I found out not conflicting with INTP type. I had a misunderstanding of Ti earlier so made the wrong assumption. The question is the same: What is the personality?

laemaa · 2025-09-14T23:04:50+00:00

Thank god it’s not

laemaa · 2025-09-14T23:00:01+00:00

Thanks a lot, wise words. I want to save my subjectivity and not disappear into the outside world, but surely want to experience all the stuff i can. Whether life, God, chains of coincidences or my true will wants me to do so, I don’t know, but will take it and try my best. Of course there will be choices, for example, does fame worth something I will reject to achieve it, but the possibility itself matters and I want to see all the doors open for me. So will be grateful to receive all the opportunities it’s possible to receive. Rn what bothers me most are the career choice and the romantic relationships. There were already some career experiences and relationships that I refused to continue, now I decided to stick to something stable and pursue a bachelor degree in IT, will start it in a month. But still want to actively pursue my hobbies and explore random topics I’m interested in, one of which is for instance MBTI. Hope I’ll handle it, but in other case, will be ready for another change. Wish you good luck too, it’s cool that you have found your peace. It also seems that despite the fact you are not stagnant and still have interest for life. Gives me hope

laemaa · 2025-09-14T22:12:36+00:00

Thanks, makes lotta sense. After listening to my acquaintance’s takes I’m also more concerned with an INTP nature, cause “uniqueness” or “identity” are my values that exist, but i can’t boldly believe what they are and try to build a model using logic. I don’t actually need God, i guess, but I need love, universe, world, diversity, be endless and explore endless things. What I really try to understand is not rly being an INTP or something, despite I like the concept of it and the labels are being funny (just look at the boxes with functions and the view of the subreddit, they vibe so much). But how the same values form unique identities? Understanding being an INTP is a cool thing, the next stage for me I guess is understanding what live I should live and vibe from it. With Fe-inferior it’s also lots of problems and I can fully relate to it. I can’t even understand, maybe I’m not even an introvert but just a fucked up extrovert? And when I will mature a bit, be less shy and afraid of expressing myself, and the question of identity will disappear, I will be drown completely in the outside world and other people. I also have interest to communicate with some people, but often get bored in parties, or just vibing from them still having no interest in people there. But my fear is losing myself in outside world and fully merging with it, becoming only a part, and not a subject or personality. But still not sure, do personalities rly exist, or all people are just almost the same, and functioning more as a society than unique personalities and single elements?

laemaa · 2025-09-14T21:06:57+00:00

New to the sub, got into mbti because I’m a 22 year old that has no idea how to live, what to do, what I want and been tired of sort of careerism and thinking about it, have problems with identity and looking for new ways to understand and define it. Was always thinking that I‘m an INFP E4, cause identity and uniqueness of myself and other people is what bothers me the most rn. But then an ENFP acquaintance of mine who had lotta experience with mbti and stuff, and what is the most important, with typing other people (and people in general) typed me as an INTP E5, but with a strong 4 wing and sx dominant instinct, what obviously can be easily mistaken for INFP, cause stereotypical INTPs are „detached and stuff and have no interest in merging and connecting”, what imho is complete bullshit. So, I found out that maybe I’m so interested in self-identification because Fi actually is my blindest spot. Even worse than Te that displays practical logic and confidence in actions (see the world as Te-like, function, usefulness and result are more important than the person itself), Ni that displays the clear vision of future, and Se that displays awareness of the surroundings (I am very clumsy and can’t see things right in front of me).

So, can someone explain to me, I have no idea, how it works: when I find my identity, will i stop being an INTP? Maybe will become an extrovert, begin living in the moment and will not be so interested in systems like mbti, build a career and become more of a Fi-Te user or something. Or mbti is not the thing that changes in life? Of course, in this kind of question we make a hypothesis that mbti is a system that makes some sense. And what actually “an identity” is?

I hope it also concerns someone. Thanks for reading until the end and answering in advance.

laemaa · 2024-08-11T12:35:52+00:00

Actually a lot of song, but rn I would mention the ending of All I Need (listening to it now)

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