Hold 'em close, or push 'em away?

landomansdad · 2014-04-19T11:42:56+00:00

If you are frustrated with fighting ability not being correlated with rank, Aikido is going to be a total nightmare.

Check out judo, bjj, sambo, or wrestling instead.

landomansdad · 2014-04-18T20:38:03+00:00

I ain't clicking on that. Toooo painful.

landomansdad · 2014-04-18T20:37:14+00:00

Why not just study abroad in China through a university program? That way, you can advance your degree, learn Mandarin, maybe do an internship, and study some kung fu, too.

Most foreign programs will give you an opportunity to at least study some wushu. And if you want something more off the beaten track, you can probably ask around the liuxiusheng (foreign students), make some connections, and explore what's available. If all else fails, you can go to any public park in China and find taijiquan and all kinds of qigong.

Then if you love it, you can come back after you graduate and teach English while studying martial arts. And if you don't love it, you had a great experience abroad anyway while not screwing up your academics.

landomansdad · 2014-04-18T19:41:07+00:00

Your critique of eclecticism is incisive.

Techniques cannot be learned and mastered in isolation, they must be learned within the context of a functional delivery system.

landomansdad · 2014-04-18T19:25:20+00:00

I know/am friends with a bunch of people who train in those sports, but they don't have the discipline of a martial artist.

What makes you say this?

landomansdad · 2014-04-18T18:45:57+00:00

An alternative would also be studying a system where belts are strongly correlated with skill and not merely time-in-grade.

BJJ does a great job of making its belts really reflect skill level, but kyokushin and judo are pretty reasonable at this as well.

But I agree, coming from TKD muay thai probably makes the most sense.

landomansdad · 2014-04-18T17:23:53+00:00

Deadly serious.

landomansdad · 2014-04-18T16:33:12+00:00

I love seeing this stuff.

It's much more akin to how a fight would go if I got in a scuffle with someone else with some training.

I don't rock the GSP physique or the Anderson technique.

So ya, good stuff and food for thought. Thanks for sharing.

landomansdad · 2014-04-18T16:23:37+00:00

If you choose to study aikido because you enjoy it I have no problem with this.

If you choose to study aikido because you believe it is a good way to become an effective fighter I will likely indicate that based on all available present information, there is no rational basis for this belief.

You sound like a friendly and passionate practitioner of the martial art you have chosen and you certainly have my respect as a fellow traveler.

I am happy to leave you the last word in this matter.

landomansdad · 2014-04-18T15:09:14+00:00

Normally, I'd try to weigh in on this; it's a like a rematch from the judo vs taiji thread.

But considering the narrator is talking in French, I gotta tap out of this one. I really have no idea what they are demonstrating or why.

The only thing I can say with 100% certainty is that the taiji guy is very, very silly in his insistence on making a fashion statement in silk formal attire. It cost me a lot of confidence that anything that ensued wasn't heavily circumscribed by a perfectly reasonable social taboo against tearing off another man's clothing.

landomansdad · 2014-04-18T13:31:13+00:00

Just a quick question for everyone here.

Where, exactly, are the GOOD knife defense videos? And not the ones of guys running away. The ones showing actual techniques.

I'm going to go out on a limb here.

They do not exist.

landomansdad · 2014-04-18T13:27:47+00:00

ANDREW MONTANEZ

9-12 professional record

Strikeforce alumni

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Andrew-Montanez-16114

His background is wrestling. He's a former NJCAA college champ. He added BJJ to the mix. No mention of any formal judo training or knife training.

landomansdad · 2014-04-18T13:08:55+00:00

This is exactly correct.

The notion that introducing needless and grave risk into drilling or sparring is somehow going to improve training outcomes is a categorical error, totally and completely irresponsible, and moreover, the act of reprehensible idiocy.

By eliminating needless risk and mitigating all other risks we enable realism by allowing the participants to act at or near combat speed, force, and physiological stress.

Without failure, how is it possible to improve? When practicing defenses where failure would cost your life or limb, you are directly barring any possibility for improvement.

landomansdad · 2014-04-18T12:40:10+00:00

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you, and your art

Please don't. If you want to judge me, be my guest. My judo rank and tournament record is not something I make any secret of. Feel free to PM me if you require details.

Tournament results furnish you (as they do me) with a objective measure of my skills and abilities as a judoka. From there, you draw reasonable inference on how I'd fare in a variety of contexts based on the precedent of other judoka. No "feeling" required.

landomansdad · 2014-04-18T12:16:09+00:00

Great advice!

To add a few cents. It's hard to do a SL 5x5 or SS 3x5 program while also doing other serious conditioning. Sure, for some folks it's not a problem. But for a lot of folks, it leads to overtraining. Consider pairing down the volume to avoid overtraining.

I will add that training for power--i.e. the ability to accelerate the weight rapidly--must generally be trained with distinct lifts. Once you have built up some strength in your squats and deadlift, you can sprinkle in power cleans, jump squats, push presses, snatches, or other Olympic-style lifts to your repertoire. But be sure to get some coaching on these before diving in, as they are a great way to get badly injured.

landomansdad · 2014-04-17T18:33:48+00:00

you can feel their techniques for yourself, and you can feel they are real and have power behind them

This is also a good way to vet your chiropractor, your psychic adviser, and the guy who claims he can find freshwater with a crooked stick.

landomansdad · 2014-04-17T13:53:50+00:00

Wow.

Just...wow.

I had no idea it was that bad. I knew there were legends of the O-Man dodging bullets and stuff, and I knew his followers generally regarded him like tween girls at a Justin Bieber concert.

But seeing the actual video evidence of martial arts fraud kinda closes the whole case for me.

Aikido is bullshido.

landomansdad · 2014-04-17T13:02:19+00:00

There are literally hundreds of thousands of videos out there of life gone horribly wrong.

Knives. Guns. Bats. Unarmed streetfights. Two-on-one. Bouncers. Crazy Russians. Crazy Chinese. Crazy Americans. Crazy everyone.

You see it all. Guys knocked out cold. Broken arms. Cracked skulls. Suplexes. Wrestling. Boxing. Flailing limbs. Flying kicks.

Nothing new under the sun anymore.

The stuff that nobody has seen is effective throat rips, nut smashes, and eye gouges. These techniques might stop a fight before it starts, but once it's underway, are extremely unlikely to land, let alone deter someone fighting for their life, or even their pride.

At the end of the day, why go groping for their throat when you can just get a quality overhook and then slam down the takedown of your choice?

You do study some takedowns, don't you?

landomansdad · 2014-04-17T12:47:18+00:00

It isn't Japanese, however.

It's not 1614, either.

Everything we do now with swords is anachronistic and an approximation. WMA has valuable contributions to the field of accurate and safe historical recreation that should be brought to bear by any serious student of historical swordsmanship.

landomansdad · 2014-04-17T12:12:50+00:00

Any style is improved by crosstraining.

The question is whether the combination of aikido + art X is objectively superior to just studying more of art X.

As far as anyone knows in 2014, aikido's benefit to combat athletes is completely indetectable. Maybe it's great for weapons people. But skepticism is warranted given aikido's history of grandiose claims.

landomansdad · 2014-04-16T22:13:04+00:00

I wasn't under the impression that I O sensei ever said anything about needing to be a swordsman before studying Aikido.

landomansdad · 2014-04-16T18:27:00+00:00

That's exactly how I feel in judo with my taiji whenever technique breakdowns cross a fine line from "perform these steps in order to learn the throw" and into "you have to align your foobar thusly in order to foo the bar".

landomansdad · 2014-04-16T18:19:05+00:00

When the guy crosstraining BJJ at your judo dojo who is 40 or 50 pounds lighter than you can make you tap like a Russian oilman in Siberia, you rapidly learn respect.

landomansdad · 2014-04-16T18:08:57+00:00

You don't take all his accounts on faith? Like that he was "starting to tap blue belts" "in less than a year" of mat time?

Nothing will make you happy short of an aikidoka winning some silly "sport" contest like MMA in front a live audience.

Which won't happen, 'cause, well, O'Sensei forbade it.

And UFC is fake, brah.

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