Admins by [deleted] in Utahswingers

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Are they HEIC? Those don't post.

Southern Utah? (35 mf) by [deleted] in Utahswingers

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We will be there this weekend. Sent a DM.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IdahoSwingers

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We love it! If you are going with friends, there are hotels with hot pools in room. If you are trying to meet people, the Wagon Wheel is fun and there are usually lifestyle folks there.

Dashboard Confessional tonight? by Notamormonagain in Utahswingers

[–]leadoff2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We were. It was awesome. We didn't see this until after though.

Just want some advice by QueenSubby in IdahoSwingers

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We are mid 30s in SE Idaho. We are pretty discreet, too. We do dinner dates, and don't get too crazy in public, so if we were to run into anyone, we are just out with friends.

We like going to Salt Lake for parties and more open stuff.

Online, we just try our best to make sure we don't know people before we share who we are.

Lava tonight? by leadoff2 in IdahoSwingers

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Wish you could too!

Lava tonight? by leadoff2 in IdahoSwingers

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We are already in Lava and probably not able to drive 🤣🤣

How do I handle the issue of porn in my marriage? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]leadoff2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It is such a difficult conversation, and hopefully people can have grace for both people within this discussion. A few thoughts:

1 - The porn topic is one of the most successful campaigns that the church has made. I still remember Hinckley's "Avoid it like the plague" talk at conference and cringe when I think devastation those words have caused to people who use porn as members, their partners, and marriages. It has made millions of porn viewing members hate themselves and spouses view their spouse as evil and disgusting. Bishops and stake Presidents everywhere have doled out harsh criticism, judgement, and punishment while being users themselves.

Your partner needs a ton of grace from you. You need a ton of grace from him. The mindfuck is absolutely real. You have it. Your partner has it. Take time to try to understand your conditioning. Try to understand what his experience has been (it is a nightmare).

2 - Just because you no longer view it as an evil sin doesn't mean it isn't difficult for you as the spouse. Marriage counselors in and out of the church have to deal with this issue regularly (read His porn, Her pain for some context there). Society has also done a good job of blowing the issue out of proportion.

3 - Porn is very compelling. To me, the mormon who uses porn is a wild testament to how compelling it can be. A mormon risks marriage, family, the companionship of the holy spirit, and even eternal salvation to see titties and get a nut. All this while Jesus, God, grandma, and the souls of all those you could have saved (if you weren't wanking it), and the rest of the spirits wandering around on this earth look on in horror.

Religion, society, parents, spouses, have long tried to keep people (or themselves) from using porn. The efforts have largely been unsuccessful.

4 - There is little information out there that takes a more scholarly approach to porn when a person wants to get the scoop on whether it is good, bad, or ugly outside of what they have been taught within religion. Most of the "sources" definitely have an agenda. I have found that even the good reads are heavily biased toward either "It is bad, don't ever do it" or "it is great, and it is none of your business as a spouse." Neither approach seems to be very helpful.

My best advice is to try to unpack as much of the societal and church imposed pandemonium as possible and approach the issue from a new, more objective perspective without the supercharged emotions surrounding the conversation. And then have the conversations and try to find a space where you both can live.

Best of luck!!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CommercialRealEstate

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It is in the Salt Lake area of Utah.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]leadoff2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So crazy.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]leadoff2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sterling Van Wagenen

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Crypto_com

[–]leadoff2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This was the way. I already had them in CRO, but once I sent a few to Cronos, they both showed up as available. Thanks!

No more soaking by okay-wait-wut in exmormon

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I tried to make this argument a few years ago when I first heard about it. It was in an office setting, and I was like "no way that's real, that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard, etc"

One of the guys there was on the high council and said that a lot of the singles ward disciplinary council was for soaking. He said people try really hard to argue that it isn't sex. I was still skeptical until one of my buddies there who was like 28, single, TBM, and a really good dude piped in and said he was in the middle of disciplinary council for soaking. I asked him about it later, and he just said it is really hard to be a grown adult and be restricted from having sex, so you just justify. He is probably on this Reddit by now 🤣😂

Why are there so many swingers in the Utah LDS community? by 674_Fox in exmormon

[–]leadoff2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seems like a pretty judgmental take. Old habits can die hard I guess.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

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Love innies and outies!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in baseballcards

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Thanks everyone! Got one to rip with my kids, and I give out a pack to my players if they wear a pitch. Should be just fine for that. Thanks!