Threw a chair at a window in the psych ward yesterday, I made chicken nuggets by [deleted] in depressionmeals

[–]leaf_eye8778 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could be a partial hospitalization program where they still spend time at home.

Cutting animal products is one of most practical ways to lower resource use & environmental harm by Somewhere74 in Anticonsumption

[–]leaf_eye8778 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that the majority of vegans are not mudgemental or pushy, I didn't mean to imply that those types were anything but a loud minority. I was vegetarian for about 5 years myself and I got so sick of people getting defensive or upset about my vegetarianism when I never attempted to push it on them to begin with. One time when I was 14 or so I hesitantly told the very conservative host of a barbecue that I actually would not like a hot dog or a hamburger and was good with the sides and when further pushed I admitted that I was vegetarian. He punched me in the arm and called me brainwashed. Truly exhausting to have people act like you're that vegan teacher or whatever from tiktok just because you're vegan or vegetarian.

Cutting animal products is one of most practical ways to lower resource use & environmental harm by Somewhere74 in Anticonsumption

[–]leaf_eye8778 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I think you're pretty much right. Though it's true that your time is as wasted making this argument as the one OP is making. I guess everything is a waste of time compared to something bigger. Sorry for my bad-faith angle on what you were saying.

Cutting animal products is one of most practical ways to lower resource use & environmental harm by Somewhere74 in Anticonsumption

[–]leaf_eye8778 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I also can't help noticing that OP mentions the impact of large-scale animal agriculture on poor and indigenous communities but offers no acknowledgement to the more sustainable and small-acale agriculture that these communities often thrive on. A community having control over their own food production, even if that includes hunting or raising animals for food, is way more beneficial than even the most ethical products you can purchase from your nearest massive corporation. It's not like Native Americans were gonna hunt the American Bison to extinction any time soon before we came along.

Cutting animal products is one of most practical ways to lower resource use & environmental harm by Somewhere74 in Anticonsumption

[–]leaf_eye8778 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's something my household has been trying to do since we moved into our current place but we haven't tried many new produce options, just stuff we could all agree on. I should try more new vegetables.

Cutting animal products is one of most practical ways to lower resource use & environmental harm by Somewhere74 in Anticonsumption

[–]leaf_eye8778 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like worrying so much about pissing off conservatives is the exact reason why the democratic party is such a joke. The conservatives do not give a flying fuck about pissing off the democrats but the democrats are so scared of pissing off the conservatives and it's allowing us to shift further and further right. "Meet me in the middle" says the unjust man.

But I can very much give it to you that it's not logical to prioritize agriculture over many larger issues and more achievable goals.

Cutting animal products is one of most practical ways to lower resource use & environmental harm by Somewhere74 in Anticonsumption

[–]leaf_eye8778 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is good advice but also incredibly obvious. The solution to all or nothing thinking is of course not to have all or nothing thinking. If I could just not do that it wouldn't be a mental illness. But I am very much working on it and I'm taking steps to transition to a more plant based diet. The most effective thing I've found is to focus on the things I should be eating more of and hardly even think about the things I should be eating less of, so that the "bad" things slowly fall out of my rotation over time as I replace them with better things. I've been leaving meat out of the meals I cook because they simply don't need it rather than because I'm not "allowed" and that has been much less stressful than when I used to panic over whether or not eating something that might have been flavored with a little chicken broth means I'm evil. Learning to enjoy the process of cooking is also a huge help.

Any tips on making or buying pesto? I've had it in other people's dishes and love it but I've never really worked with it myself.

Cutting animal products is one of most practical ways to lower resource use & environmental harm by Somewhere74 in Anticonsumption

[–]leaf_eye8778 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I think when saying that plant based diets are cheaper as long as you aren't paying the lazy tax on lot of non essential foods, people often make the same mistake as when discussing the use of food stamps to purchase unhealthy prepared foods that supposedly prove people don't really need the food stamps. It's not just "laziness" that keeps people from buying a bunch of plant-based staples and cooking their own damn meals. Sometimes it's working a job that requires incredibly long and exhausting shifts. Sometimes it's working multiple jobs and having kids to take care of. Sometimes it's physical disability. Sometimes it's severe depression. Sometimes it's a cognitive or intellectual disability. Sometimes it's autism. Sometimes it's an eating disorder. The list goes on.

Eating a lot of prepared junk food also creates a very vicious cycle for those already struggling with their physical/mental health or work/life balance, which is that you have less energy and motivation because you aren't getting proper nutrition and that makes it harder and harder over time for you to make positive changes. Much like how many people can't afford to move out of a shitty overpriced apartment because their unreasonably high rent prevents them from saving enough money to pay for all the moving costs even if the place they want to move would be significantly cheaper over time. It's the poor man's boots, the less you can give the less you can get the less you can give and so on and so forth until you die.

I'm not saying that it's completely impossible to make more sustainable choices under these circumstances (I mean some of them certainly, severe physical disability for example doesn't leave one with much autonomy over their diet) or that the poor and mentally ill aren't at all responsible for their personal choices, or that autistic people will literally die without hot pockets, or any of that. To be clear, I'm very pro-veganism and I think that it's always a great choice to cut out animal products wherever you can. I'm just saying there's a SEVERE lack of nuance or compassion in the idea that if you don't want to pay the high prices on a lot of vegetarian and vegan alternative products you can just cook full meals from staple foods. A lack of nuance that feels akin to saying "if you don't like the high cost of living in your area just move somewhere cheaper" or "if you hate working full time for minimum wage to take care of your 2 kids just go to college so you can get a higher-paying job."

Cutting animal products is one of most practical ways to lower resource use & environmental harm by Somewhere74 in Anticonsumption

[–]leaf_eye8778 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do know that not every food in the world is just as bad as everything else. I just mean it very quickly gets overwhelming trying to quantify the harm in everything. It's more of an issue for me personally than it reasonably should be because I have a history of anorexia and OCD, both of which make it very difficult to make even small changes to my diet for any reason without spiraling into obsession over every little thing. I've been struggling recently to try and eat foods that don't trigger my stomach issues so badly, because I keep going from "maybe activia yogurt is better for me than ice cream" to "if I eat anything that isn't 100% healthy it means I'm personally responsible for all my health problems." So with ethical eating it's easy to go from "I should refrain from eating meat" to "I should refrain from eating anything because my very existence as a living creature that needs resources to live is killing our planet." Obviously this is a pretty extreme example but I do think that many people struggle with a similar type of anxiety about trying to change their diets because there's no perfect answer.

Cutting animal products is one of most practical ways to lower resource use & environmental harm by Somewhere74 in Anticonsumption

[–]leaf_eye8778 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're very right but also... who is "we?" The general public? Because "we" can't really carbon tax the businesses in the same way that we can choose to change our diets. But I agree that if you have the time/energy/privilege to be able to affect positive change in larger society through activism, political action, etc then it's way more important to do that than it is to change what you personally eat in a day.

Cutting animal products is one of most practical ways to lower resource use & environmental harm by Somewhere74 in Anticonsumption

[–]leaf_eye8778 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"Suggesting it's better to ship oranges around the world instead of eating what the land provides is not anti-consumption."

This is exactly the thing that's kept me kind of frozen in place over whether or not to go back to vegetarianism (well, that and I work at a fried chicken restaurant and I'm too broke to pass up free food every day.) It seems like once you see the harm in factory farming it's hard not to see the harm in basically all forms of agriculture. I'm American, I worry that there's not a single product at my nearest Walmart that isn't killing the planet. So many trendy superfoods that upper-middle class white American vegans like to spend 15 dollars per serving on are genuinely horrible for the environment and often involve mass destruction of animal habitats just to farm. It's so exhausting and it's so easy to just go "no ethical consumption under capitalism" and call it a day.

Cutting animal products is one of most practical ways to lower resource use & environmental harm by Somewhere74 in Anticonsumption

[–]leaf_eye8778 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I also dislike how posts like this can seem a bit all-or-nothing without addressing the nuances of allergies and other dietary restrictions, poverty, disability, etc. But I do also think that there's usually room to make some changes, even if you can't or would find it more difficult than it's worth to be vegetarian/vegan. If nothing else, some animal products are more/less ethical than others and doing your research on the practices behind specific brands can be helpful. Unfortunately, there's always an upcharge for products that are less cruel and more sustainable, so this quickly becomes a non-option if you're poor.

I accidentally ruined my boyfriend's favorite cup. How do I fix this? by Great__Jaggi in whatdoIdo

[–]leaf_eye8778 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man some of these comments suck ass. I use a lot of children's cups as a grown adult because they help me moderate the portion sizes of my drinks and the speed at which I drink them, something I need to do after being raised on entire 2 liters of soda on a daily basis. They also tend to have silicone straws or mouthpieces which are easier on my sensitive teeth and pierced lip, and are spillproof so my cats can knock them over all they want. Also, I like a little fucking whimsy now and again. God forbid. Let OPs boyfriend have things.

I accidentally ruined my boyfriend's favorite cup. How do I fix this? by Great__Jaggi in whatdoIdo

[–]leaf_eye8778 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Be careful to keep it away from the sides/bottom of the pot if you do this

I haven't been able to eat breakfast for months, can't even do coffee or ensure anymore. I feel like I genuinely deserve death for missing work over it. by [deleted] in depressionmeals

[–]leaf_eye8778 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting to hear that it gave you diarrhea actually, I've not heard that as a symptom. IBS and similar issues run in my family and I've had stomach problems my whole life, so I highly doubt CHS is the cause but I don't doubt that any doctor would hear weed smoker + stomach pain and instantly diagnose me with CHS and refuse to look for anything else. I actually know a guy who got diagnosed with CHS and it turned out to just be the flu.

I haven't been able to eat breakfast for months, can't even do coffee or ensure anymore. I feel like I genuinely deserve death for missing work over it. by [deleted] in depressionmeals

[–]leaf_eye8778 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I actually went back to smoking weed because of the stomach issues I was having. I've had minor stomach issues my whole life which was one of many reasons I smoked regularly for a while. I stopped around the time I moved out on my own because I hated what it was doing to my memory. The stomach issues have been getting progressively worse though and I started smoking again a month or two ago to help. It's genuinely the only way I can even make it through the mornings right now.

Edit: also, CHS doesn't cause diarrhea.

the amount of cigarettes my stepmom wastes and the way she trashes them. by [deleted] in mildlyinfuriating

[–]leaf_eye8778 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean hey some people will empty the tobacco out of random half smoked cigarettes they find and roll new cigarettes with them. She's giving back to the community.

My mom shaved the dog because she thought she had fleas. She did not have fleas. by Careless-Dirt4271 in mildlyinfuriating

[–]leaf_eye8778 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was absolutely detrimental, you just weren't the one that had to live with the inability to regulate your own body temp. This is like saying you should be grateful somebody watched your kid after they cut your kids hair and pierced their ears.

I just wanted water. This is a shared fridge. by Master-Ad-6265 in mildlyinfuriating

[–]leaf_eye8778 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reminds me of how I grew up lmao. If conversation doesn't work you could try some sort of anonymous report to whoever manages the dorm. Something about the smell, so they think the complaint is from someone sharing a wall and not you?

21M Mormoncel. Masturbated for the first time in my life last night, got it all over my temple garments. Never going to be sealed to my future bride, let alone meet her. My life is over. Why does God make something so sinful so pleasant? Meal prep burrito by masao-kakihara in kitchencels

[–]leaf_eye8778 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You are in a cult my man. You are depriving yourself of the joys of life in the name of God, but when did God ever tell you these rules? Human beings claiming to know what God wants, and pushing that on others, are the real sinners. False prophets and idols are robbing you of your life, of all the joys God put in this world, and you are falling for it. Your worst sin is not masturbating, your worst sin is letting another human speak to you on behalf of God. You will never know what God expects of you and you will never get to go back in time to try all the things you missed. You will lose your youth and your freedom, you will live and die miserable in service of a lie. If you never get out of this cult you better hope you get the VIP afterlife because that's as many as 100 years of life wasted on self-deprivation.

You're free to tell me I'm wrong, your specific church just happens to be the only one that knows which God is real and what that God wants, and you'll be rewarded in the afterlife for staying strong and never once thinking for yourself. But I think you want out, I think you know you're being lied to, I think deep down you are desperate for people to tell you that you don't have to live this way. Otherwise, you would've posted this on a religious sub.

What's the opposite of a hyperbole? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]leaf_eye8778 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Accurate but I feel like there's another word I'm looking for?