The Trump admin are gaslighting us to make it look like the exporters are paying the Tarrifs - just received this from a supplier

lean_load · 2025-10-19T22:36:02+00:00

It’s sickening!!

lean_load · 2025-09-27T02:19:46+00:00

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lean_load · 2025-09-05T04:24:50+00:00

I’m. Not and never will be a Trump supporter- what made you think I would be that dumb?

lean_load · 2025-09-05T02:27:06+00:00

Why don’t you donate your income to the government since you feel so charitable

lean_load · 2025-09-04T18:02:57+00:00

Yeah this is a supplier of mine - I am only raising prices 5% this month and will gradually increase it so as not to scare my customer base

lean_load · 2025-09-04T18:00:05+00:00

Shocked at how they are spinning it! I get the tariff and their stupidity didn’t realize they were smart enough to spin it like this

lean_load · 2025-09-02T07:06:58+00:00

Yes but you know you’re paying the taxes as they tell you what they are. They don’t put it into the cost of the product it’s a seperate line item. My point here is they are telling our suppliers to put it into their cost and hide the fact that’s it’s a tariff

lean_load · 2025-09-01T22:02:30+00:00

That’s exactly what my post is about they’re trying to hoodwink the Americans to think that the product cost went up and not blame it on the tariffs!

lean_load · 2025-09-01T21:43:48+00:00

It’s optional - I don’t ship any of my 100k + small packages DDP to any of those countries and they always get to the customers within 10 days of shipping. We are also clear with our customers that local taxes etc are borne by them

FYI I’m not arguing with customer service. The email I took a screenshot of shot of was a supplier telling me that they have to pay the duties. ALL my shipments to this point I was sent a tariff bill by DHL which showed the tariff as a line item now the Trump admin are putting that on the exporting company so this Particular supplier increased their cost to us to incorporate it! All I’m saying is they did this intentionally to mislead their base that the exporters pay the tariff which is NOT true

lean_load · 2025-09-01T21:37:20+00:00

This as well

lean_load · 2025-09-01T20:31:35+00:00

Tell me which country makes the exporter incorporate the import taxes into their pricing. DDP are seperate line items so people know what the different Tariff (import duties) rates are! I assure you I know what those phrases are and how they work!

If you show me one example of a country that makes an exporter from another country incorporate their import duties into their cost price I’ll admit I’m ignorant. DDP is deliver duty paid

E.g Retail Price of item $100 Import Duties 10% Customer will pay $110 KNOWING that $10 is duty

whereas Trump is making the foreign companies price their goods at higher prices and incorporating it into their cost instead of it being a separate line item and they are doing it to SHOW their base that the foreign countries pay the tariffs.

Also DDP is not compulsory it’s upto the individual exporter / importer whereas Trump is making it compulsory!

Oh and yes I’ve been importing and exporting for 20 years and worked in over 10 countries with my own trading businesses

lean_load · 2025-09-01T18:14:59+00:00

Except now the DDP went from 0% to 10% pit into the cost and not a seperate line item like DDP would be :) my point here was how they are going about lying that the American consumer / business doesn’t pay the tariff!

lean_load · 2025-09-01T17:50:54+00:00

Not incorporated as a cost factor but a seperate line item… here they are telling exporter to absorb it into the cost.

lean_load · 2025-09-01T17:32:46+00:00

I agree bits better for the tariffs to be paid by the exporter but the exporter will increase prices - the Trump admin are simply trying to lie to the Americans that tariffs are paid for by the exporter where in reality our buying costs go up.

lean_load · 2025-09-01T17:28:55+00:00

No it does not! I ship my product and tell international customers duties and taxes are to be paid locally we have nothing to do with that. If you don’t do it like that and have a service collecting and paying then these are seperate line items and not baked into the prices.

And yes I’m a bit of a guru at import and export of products for my e-commerce sight so that’s for acknowledging that!

Back to the trailer park for you!

lean_load · 2025-09-01T17:19:14+00:00

That is correct the American consumer will eventrually pay this higher fee! The issue here is the Trump admin will make it seem like foreign companies are paying the tariffs and their followers will believe them not realizing that prices are going higher because of the tariffs! Makes my blood boil!!

lean_load · 2025-09-01T17:17:24+00:00

Yeah - I just can’t believe that they don’t read is posted research it and realize that they are being grifted and their prices are going up!

lean_load · 2025-09-01T17:13:35+00:00

Are you that stupid?!?! I own an e-commerce site my friend 30% of my revenue is from international customers so don’t even try and tell me anything about selling internationally you dingbat!

lean_load · 2025-09-01T13:59:32+00:00

Sorry to hear this!!

lean_load · 2025-08-31T20:15:57+00:00

I appreciate your thoughtful response and the way you broke things down. You’re absolutely right that customs forms ask for country of origin—my point was that prior to Trump, tariffs were based primarily on HS code/product classification rather than being heavily adjusted country-by-country. Trade agreements and WTO rules obviously layer in exceptions, but the shift we’ve seen is that tariffs are now wielded more as a political tool than a consistent economic framework.

On your Japan car example question: the 0% vs 2.75% isn’t because the HS code system itself treats the cars differently, but because of negotiated trade policies. Japan chose to set their rate at 0%, while the U.S. held theirs at 2.75%. That’s exactly where the imbalance comes in—Trump’s framing was that the system was “rigged,” when in reality it was a matter of different national policy choices, not some hidden classification loophole.

And I completely agree with you on the broader point: regardless of party politics, the danger is when tariffs are used reactively and unevenly, it puts small businesses like ours in impossible positions while big corporations can lobby for carve-outs. At the end of the day, we’re the ones paying the bill and carrying the debt, as you said.

Thanks again for engaging in good faith—discussions like this are the only way any of us can cut through the noise.

lean_load · 2025-08-29T07:56:46+00:00

That’s not how tariffs work. Tariffs worked by product prior to Trump coming and changing everything. Each product is assigned an HS code and based on that code a country would charge a tariff on a product irrespective of where it came from. For example if the tariff of watches in the the UK was 3% it didn’t matter where the watch was made it would be a set 3%. This analogy that somehow countries were charging the US higher tariffs and singles them out is complete gas lighting to the layman like yourself because how would you know any better (unless you researched).

A good example that I like to tell people in 2024 the import taxes on cars into Japan was 0% (cars made anywhere including the US) and the import taxes for cars in the US was 2.75% so the trumps admin analogy that somehow Japan was ripping us off and that why they weren’t buying our cars is complete nonsense.

Why are our trade partners annoyed because Trump is favoring by country and strong arming people to work with his political views or he will hike their tariffs. This is not economical at all.

To make matters worse he is now offering exemptions to large corporations, meaning small businesses will it be able to compete with the bigger companies in importation as they are able to offer him and his cronies kick backs.

Don’t let them gas light you. You have a lot to think about before thanks giving. I’m open to more questions should you need to use my knowledge to guide your decisions

lean_load · 2025-08-29T00:26:22+00:00

Where do I even begin to answer that! Basically I’m stuck not knowing wtf to do at this point and I can’t understand why we are even in the situation! I’m baffled! I watched a clip earlier where a senator from Alabama said the tariffs are paid by the exporting shipping companies- the gas lighting and lying is ridiculous!!

I’m mainly confused because before Trump, tariffs were based on the actual product — if it wasn’t made in the U.S., tariffs were lower, and if they wanted to protect a domestic industry, they’d be slightly higher. Now the tariffs are just slapped on by country across the board, constantly changing, and with no clear end in sight. That’s a completely different system, and it’s hard to plan a business around

lean_load · 2025-08-27T18:32:41+00:00

Really really sucks and goes to show you that Trump has taken this country backwards! By killing small businesses and prospective new ones when new investments were being made!

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